The Queen of MAHVELL 3!: The Morrigan GD Thread

Anyone here think that she will be nerfed? There are talks of a patch going around and I am worried that she will be nerfed.

I doubt it. They might take her fireballs back down to 70K but i cant see them nerfing anything past that

you can use them to extend combos since they have very fast startup.

you can use them for movement. Its kind of like an air dash up with a hit box that you cancel into flight mode. If you cancel the m\h versions @ the right height, she can go into air dash cancels and work a mind game or get away and do something.

I have a little trick I use with air dash down to their backside, srk+L facing the new direction, this forces the shoryuken to come out in 3 frames and cross the opponent up. Its kind of picky but still great since it leads into +frame combo attempt or mixup scenario. The flight mode right there will also counter push blocks when timed to do so and you can get free fuzzy right there

after blocked poke strings, you can do srk+m\h, to can cancel your poke into an srk, into flight, into jumping fireball. The air versions of soul first come out 5f faster than the grounded ones. Really good after push blocks. Opponent can push you out on say s.m and you cancel into srk+m, then do m\h soul first depending on what they do. Alternate pattern to grounded soul fists.


I hope they don’t really mess with morrigan. She’s really deep, one of the few characters I love playing as. =o

With the amount of salt toward her thanks to Chris G, I’m really worrying for her future

If Capcom is smart (and who knows if they are), they’ll recognize that Morrigan is only present on one top team, whereas Hidden Missiles, which is on that one top team, is also on a ton of other teams and has capabilities that no other assist has.

capcom isn’t smart lol

otherwise, why nerf shitty sentinel’s life? even if he had that much life from vanilla in umvc3, his ass would still fucking suck. Since so many scrubs were crying for a nerf, he got one. He actually needs that much life.

I’m expecting morrigan to get nerfed but I really HOPE they don’t touch her. Scrubs cry about shit rather than try to figure out counters which they certainly are for her.

Dude. Mass produced model sentinels do not need to have anywhere near as much life as hulk thor and nemmy.

Yes, they need at least 3 times as much.

Seth Killian seemed pretty happy about Morrigan doing well at a recent Ask Capcom.

Sentinel doesn’t need 1.3 million life. He needs to not suck on point. People forget that he was getting torn up in Vanilla right before his nerf, because that’s right when JWong put out anti-Sentinel videos featuring Wolverine, and Wolverine+Akuma started to run trails through him like nothing.

Thankfully, characters are more than their point ability, and Sentinel has some of the best hypers in the game as well as the best assist. Do you forget so quickly that ECT was just won by a team with Sentinel on it? People should learn from their Vanilla mistakes, when Haggar was called “low tier” yet was instrumental to Viscant winning Evo. You pick Sentinel for the assist, and he does well for those teams. Therefore he is not a bad character. Does he suck on point? Absolutely. Does that suck for Sentinel fans, whom I count myself among? Absolutely. Does he suck? No.

Was the health nerf a bad idea? We’ll honestly never know. The game has changed hugely, and we’d need to know how a 1.3 million health Sentinel fares as an assist in today’s metagame to judge such. That is why he got the health, after all.

The only reason he had so much health, was because some idiot who was working on mvc2 decided that the giant metal robot should have the most health in the game, and forgot that he was dealing with the marvel license. A license that has characters that Consistenly destroy dozens of those same giant robots at a time.

I recall that happening on the old fox show, but between 1963 and 1993, which is where I’m “current” to on all of the X-books, that never happened once. Just the opposite usually. the Mark 1s and 2s were flat out indestructible, and even the mark 3s were problems. They do get progressively worse as time goes on, but by the point Children of the Atom was made, they were definitely still something to be feared by teams of mutants.

If the patch where out one month ago, Wesker would’ve been raped. I believe it’s the same with Morrigan.
I actually have no idea why Doom’s missiles should be any different then Sentinal’s drones. That kind of nerf will balance most of the stupid stuff involving Doom. (and by the extend, MorriDoom)

You are an idiot.

If anyone else was watching CEO, I think we need to start discussing how to handle Vergil. This character was practically on every team (at least on stream), and was a dominating force. Once people start perfecting their combos (aka not drop them), he’s going to be a massive problem. I don’t have much match-up experience against him, so if anyone who does what to chime in that would be great.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say there is no answer. Spiral Swords protects him from approach and eliminates all Soul Fist projectiles while preventing assist calls. Shadow Servant even goes right through him in this mode. What can you do but run away?

In that sense, the best answer to Vergil is to ToD him or, if he’s not on point, snap him in. XF3 Vergil is scarier than Dark Phoenix in my opinion. He can Rapid Slash for days without fear. Dark Phoenix even has to run from him.

just fly until it’s over? (and react to upward teleport ofc).
just theory there, anyway, my friend just picked up Justin’s team (he always does one way or the other), so I will probably be able to bring some more insights on the match up in visible future.

Run away from Vergil while swords is out, however is easier said than done. What overheads does Vergil have? Perhaps block low for most of it or chicken block? Sorry I don’t have much experience against Vergil.

RE: Morrigan. I never see Chris G use the U+F air dash for rushdown. U+F air dash and J.H on the way down is good way to mix things up.

Vergil can instant overhead pretty much the entire cast with Blistering Swords so if Spiral Swords are running out and he has more meter, he may switch modes and go for it. Morrigan is tiny as shit while crouching though, so he’d probably fuck it up even if it’s possible.

Holy crap spamming chris g style with missles makes me feel like a god… Anyone else has a rush of goodness inside when they do it lol?

My god Spiral Swords are over hyped. Its a godly tool combo wise, but its really not all that useful in the neutral game. As soon as he activates just SJ. Even if he hits you from SJ he can’t confirm off of it with SS on. The swords will fuck up both Helm Breaker and j.S hit confirms. You should be taking 100k at most and Vergil will be out of a meter. He is a problem character no doubt, but random SS activation are not an issue. At all