The Political Thread 2021

Pics or it didn’t happen.

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@Optimus124
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I would happily vote Republican if people like Tulsi took over the party.

It’s hilarious that we’ve got Biden & Harris though. Biden came dead last of the viable candidates in Iowa and Harris was the candidate nobody wanted during the primaries except for that one week when she was hot, and somehow got a second life. Like how did these two end up even getting to the big show much less winning? xD

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He never said Joe Biden. Not once.

There’s still going to be people that think he’s gonna pull a fast one tomorrow, and the “new administration” he’s talking about is him with Flynn as VP.

Seriously. Just say his name.

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Trump made it so anyone could run and beat him. :man_shrugging:t4:

Had he tweeked his campaign for CoVid and the protests earlier this year to appeal to more than just his base, he would’ve clapped Biden.

He went off the deep end though.

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He gave his farewell. Only fringe wackos will see a message.

He said his piece and didn’t mention fraud. That’s pretty big of him, don’t expect more from Trump lol.

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It’s hard to say how it would have shaken out even if he’d tweaked his campaign (though it was a massive oversight that he didn’t do what you said, like you have to wonder if he was trying NOT to win on some level) but I don’t just anyone could have beaten him. From the republican side, it would have taken someone who was perceived as an even bigger middle finger to the establishment than Trump was and I can’t think of anybody like that, and even a seasoned political vet like Hillary who, by all accounts, should have had it in the bag couldn’t do it.

Like I said before, it’s a massive story that somebody like Trump was able to get elected in the first place, it’s just a shame that it WAS Trump rather than someone who would have taken the job seriously.

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Maybe not anyone, but a safe, boring familiar pick after the 2020 ride probably seemed hella tempting.

Would any dem candidate have won? Probably not Booker, Harris or a few others than had no business trying to campaign.

But Yang, Gabbard, Buttgieg? I think they would’ve stomped Trump too, and they would’ve had spicy VP picks.

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That’s how I was fr. No election fraud?? Word mah nigga? Damn…

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How did we end up with Biden as the DNC nomination? I’m not really sure why we’re still asking that question a day before his inauguration. “I thought Biden sucked so it’s weird to me he won” is a weird thought process to me. Let’s not forget that there were like 20 candidates at the start but as people dropped out, Biden’s “big tent” strategy and the fact that he represented a previous administration that was calm and stable gave him headway. The race came between him and Bernie, and voters came out big for Biden, especially black voters. Like, Biden crushed Bernie in the black vote despite Bernie’s policies likely to help the black community the most. Biden’s VP pick in Harris ended up being a good pick after all; it probably helped him secure some big black votes in Georgia and Michigan.

I think it’s fantasy to speculate the new blood would have crushed Trump, despite Trump essentially throwing the election away due to his COVID response or lack there of. We have to look at the big, big picture and outside of our own policy thought bubbles. I honestly thought Bernie would smoke Biden in the primaries when it came down to it, but obviously that was not the case. It was a rude awakening that most Democratic voters were not interested in progressive policies. You can blame outside forces all you want, but eventually you have to come to terms with that some candidates didn’t resonate enough with voters and didn’t run a good enough campaign. Just because you really like a candidate, that doesn’t make them “The One”.

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Ahhh now Trumpers are blaming Qtards conspiracy bullshit for hurting Trump.

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Maybe, but this means we go back to what led to Trump getting elected in the first place (i.e. more establishment status quo type stuff), and the folks who want to burn it all down aren’t going away. I get that people don’t like some of what the Trump movement represents, but there’s a lot about it that needs to be addressed by the government, the establishment, the media, etc. It’s not going away just because he lost.

I think Tulsi and Buttgieg could have at least given Trump a run for his money, I’m not sure about Yang. At least the other two would have been a viable choice for people who didn’t like Trump but weren’t exactly down with some of the goofy progressive BS.

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Nah Biden was trailing multiple candidates, Super Tuesday came and they all fucking dropped out. Yang was pissed they stopped his run and Bernie just took it up the ass again.

Biden getting the nomination was steeped in bullshit just like Hillary beating Sanders.

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Were you even paying attention during the Democratic primary, like, at all? Why is it weird to question how a guy who even the press didn’t like until he was the only choice, and how a woman who didn’t even make it past the halfway point of the primaries wound up not only getting the nomination but winning the election?

Yyyyup.

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Now Trumpers are eating each other. Fucking glorious. :weary:

They hateee the fact that he thanked pence and called those who stormed the capitol building criminals.

Trump may have effectively stopped the cultists from banding together to do anything worthwhile with just his farewell.

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12 National Guard members removed from inauguration security mission - ABC News (go.com)

I know it’s asking a lot to put these people on a list, but I’ll remain optimistic that Biden and Harris clamp down on it, before they don’t

Another one will likely take his place…unfortunately.

It’s been talked about in this thread before. It’s possible many dropped out before Super Tuesday because they were offered cabinet positions or did so to rally behind who they thought had the best odds in beating Trump and fracturing support between so many people may not have been the best idea. If you think playing politics is steeped in bullshit, then IMO you’re starting to delve into conspiracy theory territory. Not everything is some conspiracy. I don’t think anything out of the ordinary happened like how super delegates fucked over Bernie in 2016. Biden got the nomination because people dropped out and Bernie couldn’t run a good enough campaign to beat him. Occam’s Razor and all.

Were you? It’s not really rocket science why Biden ended up winning like I already explained. Clinging so hard that people like Gabbard or Yang were the absolute best choices and their loss was a DNC conspiracy is Trumper territory.

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I don’t think they will be at the same level. We have seen this movie, and most most people don’t really want to see it’s sequel.

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