The PC gaming Thread. Steam/GOG/Origin/Etc. Game/Software/Hardware talk

this is a cool video of Alien Isolation I thought some might enjoy

also here is a TED talk about the Metaverse and filmmaking

any Corsair PSU is great, but I really recommend going for more than such a low wattage. I’ve been using a 750w PUS for a long time now, and it’s #1 on my list of things to upgrade, superseding even my urge to buy an NVidia card.

Too much shit using up your power supply, and who knows what’s coming on the horizon.

Is there still a rodent on a wheel, trapped inside your ancient computer, no longer needing to run to power ICQ?

I bought my video card, in the hopes I could just buy another soon, and crossfire them fuckers together, then discovered not a single game has required more than my meager video card and ram and cpu could run.

edit: Just pirated Alien Isolation. I really hate paying for single play games. Don’t understand why more games (and Hollywood movies) don’t realize the current paymodel is broke as fuck.

Cuz people keep paying 60 dollars for 2 hours of gameplay.

Its not a rodent. Its a hamster.
Stronger hind legs. More output.

Get your facts straight.

ok, so now i’m paranoid about bottlenecking with the card I wanna buy…If I wanted to upgrade my CPU, what price range could i look at for decent performance?

No need to worry about CPU bottlenecking until you get beyond 1080p resolution. Also, on an APU platform, the best you could do would be to get a couple more cores running at slightly higher clock speeds and you’re still essentially paying for a video card that you’re not using.

You could upgrade to a quad core, but it wouldn’t net you much more performance for the price. You’re better off saving for an entire new platform and getting a considerably faster dedicated CPU for not very much more money.

But if you insist on buying a CPU for your current motherboard, you’ll want to look at getting a quad-core Kaveri.

well, i’m getting conflicting advice right now…

i had a friend at another msg board take a look at my specs and say

so it led me to believe I might be biting off alot more than I originally expected to try to update my rig…

You will have to upgrade your motherboard (buy an entirely new PC platform) in order to go to a pure gaming setup. Your CPU/mobo combo is aimed more at home theater and mid-range gaming.

Your friend is wrong. You have a modern CPU (It was released on Jun. 4th 2013!) with all the modern specs. And DX12 support means absolutely nothing. I haven’t even researched it yet, but IF (and that’s a big if) the r9 280 doesn’t support DX12, it’s only a couple of features - that are not likely to be built into any games for a very long time, mind you - that you will be missing, and even then it will not hinder you in any way from playing them.

You’re fine. Don’t worry about upgrading the CPU until you are going to get a new rig. Then you sell the old one and finance the new one with the proceeds.

Or, you can keep your old rig while you save to build an entirely new one and then sell it, rinse, repeat.

Your CPU is the AMD A6-6400K. Nothing at all wrong with it, except it’s not exactly a gaming CPU. Can you still game on it? Sure! It’s fast enough, but it’s only got two cores. Most games don’t go too far beyond 2 cores anyway unless you force it to use all cores. Even then, performance gains are marginal. You won’t even notice it.

The best CPU you can put in your motherboard is this one, the AMD A10-7850k. It’s slightly slower than your current CPU, but it has 4 cores. The problem is that you’re paying for 8 GPU cores that you’re never going to use. The CPU is clocked at 3.7 GHZ compared to your current CPU’s 3.9. It’s just not that much of a gain. It’s marginal, even though…

  1. The A10-7850k has a more advanced chip die than your current A6-6400K

and

  1. it has 2 more cores.

That adds up to a very small maybe 15 - 20% increase in CPU performance, which really isn’t all that impactfull to begin with.

My advice is to upgrade your GPU and PSU as high as possible and wait until you can build a new PC focused on gaming to get as fast a rig as possible. If you were to upgrade the one you have now, you will spend money on something that is not as good as it could be.

That said…

Your current CPU is PERFECT for overclocking. What I’m about to tell you is the PC equivalent to getting you started on drugs, but I’ma tell you anyway. You can OC that black processor of yours easily to achieve higher clock speeds. Even higher if you invest in more cooling (A nice heatsink & fan or water cooling platform). So you might want to do your homework on overclocking, check it out and see if it’s something that’s for you, and then try that. The cooling products you buy will probably work on future AMD platforms, so you might even be investing in a future build.

I will say this, though: power supply is king for overclocking. Your chips cannot achieve high clock rates without good power flow. Additionally, you cannot underclock (you will learn about this once you learn more about over clocking) efficiently without having a good power supply also. So basically, whatever CPU/GPU combo you go with and whatever you want to do with it beyond basic shit, your PSU is the limiting factor (actually it’s your motherboard, but we will get into that later. For now just know that in time you will be drooling over enthusiast motherboards with massive MOSFETs! But you can’t power them without a good PSU.).

Just to reiterate,** there’s absolutely nothing wrong with your PC specs at all**, even for gaming, it’s just that the platform was chosen with extremely high CPU clocks in mind, which is a mistake that many people make. Your friend’s thinking is the perfect example of how people can go wrong. For example, the Pentium IV architecture (from 2008) went all the way to 4 GHZ speeds. That does not mean, however, that a 4 GHZ Pentium IV could ever become equal to a modern 4 GHZ Intel I7 processor. Never. They’re not even close to being the same, even at the exact same clock speeds. It’s a very common newbie mistake. No biggie, though. Clock rate is still good for a lot of things, however, so having that fast clock rate on a new, modern CPU (or even faster if you overclock it) is still a good thing!

I hope this helps. If you have any questions just holla on here or PM me.

thx…you’ve been super helpful the last few days…think i’mma go head and buy a psu now…wait til pay day and cop the GPU…good to know my setup is fine tho…that’s a relief…meanwhile, lemme stop day dreaming about playing 2k15 on max settings and get some studying done…I’ve been attempting to play it lately w medium textures and player models, with AA turned way down to 2x, and I still get some skipping/slowdown in the frame rate and even a few crashes i’m assuming thats my card?..

Supposedly Alien: Isolation is actually pretty long.

When I type 970 in Newegg I get a motherboard and a graphics card. Which did you mean would be a good starting point.

He means the nVidia GeForce GTX 970 video card and he’s right about it.

Ok well I just took a quick look at those and they seem to be a like 300 bucks. That seems like overkill for my needs tho. Any other cards you would recommend.

Well you said your budget would be 800 total, so I would buy the gtx 970 and go from there. At that point you would have headroom to upgrade everything else.

What is the resolution of your monitor?

I will get one after the build is complete I plan on having a dual monitor setup. Although my budget is around 800, if I don’t have to spend that much I won’t complain lol.
So if I decide to get that 970 graphics card what would be the motherboard, cpu, and psu I should get. Are they equally expensive since that is such a powerful graphic card.

No, with that gpu, you can actually get quality psu for well less than 100. I’m not too informed on MoBos or cpus, but you should really be able to stay under 800.

Maybe someone else can do a part picker for you, or I can do it later but I’m on my phone now.

Can you really get a psu that cheap just because the graphics card is so good.how does that work, I was thinking you would need a psu that is more powerful. Excuse my ignorance

Anyone here fuxin’ with DDR4 ram yet?