*The "padhacking" thread*

No I I am using the Wii stick already which already. Thanks for the reply though. :smiley:

Do the joytech xbox 360 controllers have common ground? I haven’t seen an exact answer for this yet.

I have a quick question. I was gonna work on a pad hack on a ps1 control. Do these pads, either the original or DS, work with the PS3 with an adapter? I haven’t decided on buy the pad yet so I can’t test it out myself.

GhibliCat: No, Joytech’s NEO Se pad doesn’t have common ground. When I hacked it I used separate grounds for all buttons/directions. Did some testing but I didn’t try ALL combinations so I guess some buttons MIGHT have common ground. Didn’t think it was worth the effort of checking everything though.

ZeroX: Yes, they work with a PlayStation->USB adapter (if the adapter works without any need for drivers). Tekken DR (Online) and PS2 games work without a problem but Virtua Fighter 5 requires an analog button for the directions to work. Some converters, such as the Pelican one works without an analog button. But if you have a random USB adapter and want to play VF5 you’ll probably need one.

Thanx bro

Can someone please tell me if this controller is common ground? I know the d-pad is, but not sure about the rest. I am a total newb at using a multimeter.

i cannot directly answer your question (im not too sure and quite newbie myself), but I used the same PCB to mod a tekken 5 ps2 stick using sanwa parts… i did grounds for dpad, and one for the rest of the buttons. i’ve mostly been using my stick for pc games, and i used it for puzzle fighter hd, sf anniversary edition and a few of the other arcade games on the 360; they worked just fine.

here’s an old screenshot

Not really sure if this fits under ā€œpadhackingā€ but I came across a cool PCB for wiring up computer joysticks. Its a USB interface with places to wire up to 32 buttons and 8 analog axes. You basically just attach the leads from any arcade stick and the pushbuttons to the connectors on the interface, plug it into your USB port and install the driver. I’m going to order one soon. It looks pretty awesome. You could even built a 2 or more player panel and wire everything up to this thing. It costs $34.99 plus $9.99 shipping.

Here’s the link: http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/

Not sure what to think about that. Using a p360 or sanwa flash is right out. If that button matrix is setup how I think it is, it just aint gonna work. Any common ground integration stuff is right the hell out. Once again, I with he’d release the source. I would love to see how he did his custom configuration program, but I couldn’t bring myself to buy it. Except for the custom config part, I know I could duplicate the functionality in an hour with one of the 2450’s or 2550’s I have lying around. Hell, could probably use the USBBitWhacker board directly.

Toodles, can you tell what setup that Madcatz 360 PCB uses?

You know the end that plugs into the Xbox or the PC? The metal shroud piece is connected to the pad’s ground. Now that you know that, read the directions I’ve already put up in this thread for determining if it’s common ground:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=4726392&highlight=multimeter#post4726392

give a man a fish and all that.

[LEFT]Can anyone link me to where identifying a +5 volt on a dreamcast PCB is? I remember a picture or…?

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Hey, I get to double quote the same post!
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=4726392&highlight=multimeter#post4726392

Can I daisy-chain the ground wires from the button and the joystick in one ground wire only and solder it?

That’s what I want to know as well. I asked and haven’t seen a response. It worked on my old USB PC stick I made…I guess I’ll try and see what happens. I have an orginal Xbox controller (large) that I will be trying to hack.

So I was under the impression that the blue wire on the dreamcast pad could be spliced and connected to the +5 volt line on a Happ 360 but it definitely isn’t working for me. Where do you connect to for 5 volts on an official Dreamcast pad?

You saved me! It is indeed common ground after all… GameStop Microcons are no longer available, but their standard MadCatz pad is $25, which isn’t too bad.

New questions: Can I completely remove the triggers without causing erratic behavior? And how would I go about wiring up the triggers to buttons if I wanted to keep them?

As long as the PCB uses a common ground setup, yes you can.

So it should work on a PS1 Dual shock series H PCB?

The most secure way is to take off the trigger and the pot. Then solder resistors from the middle contact to the outer contacts. To use the triggers in your stick wire your button to the middle connection. Toodles posted something earlier about replacing pots with resistors. Here is the post.

I just finished wiring a pad last night using this method. I even took off the thumb sticks and locked them down with resistors. Nice and solid now.

TTFN
Kaytrim

p.s. The pad I hacked is exactly the same one as you posted ealier. I used 4.7k resistors in place of the post. I’ll post pics tonight.

Yep, I hack these all the time. :woot:

TTFN
Kaytrim