The "padhacking" thread

YvoMulder · March 26, 2012, 4:23pm

the first picture you have correct. the second one does not show the other side of the double sided PCB or the wires that go out of the picture to the R1/R2/L1/L2 daughter boards. however, you can clearly see that what you have labeled L2 is correct cause it runs down to the silkscreened letters that show the corresponding pad as L2. the L1 pad silkscreen label is right next to L2 silkscreen. follow the trace till it pops through that hole and flip the board over to find that same hole. there should be a trace there to confirm the location of your L1 within the J1 3pin header. R1/R2 should have a similar symmetry but it may or may not be mirrored to L1/L2. I find it odd that they have only 3 pins total to something that has one button and one analog. if the analog is a voltage divider, it has a fixed resistor on the main board. the other theory is that the analog triggers are part of some current dependent sensor. but I’m leaning towards voltage divider with a fixed resistor. so what would be the ideal setup for pullup and variable? 1k fixed pullup and 5k pot? this would give you 0v to +3.08v. with the controller on, test your DC voltages. with your controller off, test for resistance (Ohms). also test your triggers for resistance when depressed and not depressed. if your trigger reads 0hms when pressed, you are good to wire up a button. no resistor needed. if your trigger reads 0hms when not depressed then its a for now.

I will post a photo of the rear of the PCB later, so you can see for yourself Thanks so far!

YvoMulder · March 26, 2012, 5:13pm

Here is the back of the main PCB.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/41248345/PCB%20main%20back.jpg

lemonlust · March 26, 2012, 11:05pm

I just did my first padhack using the xbox 360 afterglow rev.1 controller. Unfortunately I didn’t take a picture and it was a bitch to get inside the stick

lemonlust · March 27, 2012, 5:04am

I took the time to make it tidy, my first time the joystick was scrapping the PCB so i put the PCB in the backside

BeWrong · March 27, 2012, 6:32am

is the resistor really required for manually wiring a dual shock pcb?

jdm714 · March 27, 2012, 6:52am

If you do not keep the flexible membrane attached, Resistors are needed.

RoboKrikit · March 27, 2012, 6:57am

The resistors are required. They’re built into the FPC board that connects to the PCB. If you remove the FPC you have to replace the resistors.

The first time I hacked a SIXAXIS PCB, I jammed resistors in the connector and wired to the teeny tiny connector pins. I don’t recommend it. Get an AXISDapter kit from Toodles and save yourself the trouble.

Edit: Beaten by jdm714!

BeWrong · March 27, 2012, 7:00am

thanks for the explanation now i understand. i want to purchase a axisdapter though i saw the post on lizard licks’ thread and i’m worried about buying an item from them since i’m from a foreign country

jdm714 · March 27, 2012, 7:03am

Lizard Licks is dead.
Everyone should know that.

Anything of Toodles is bought direct from Toodles.
http://gdlk.co

tigermaskchi · March 27, 2012, 5:27pm

this is how you trace a double sided PCB. funny thing is that sony has it labeled on the back so we really dont need to trace it at all. anyway, if you need to do this, now you know how to do it. like JDM said, if you remove the trigger, add a resistor from ground to L2. same thing on the R2. if you leave it attached and you dont have resistors, thats fine too.

YvoMulder · March 27, 2012, 10:01pm

Thank you so much for you help! When I have the time, I will start with this pad hack. But do I need the same resistors as on the other dualshock 3 PCB’s? So between 7,5k and 8,5k?

Thank you so much again! And JDM to.

jdm714 · March 27, 2012, 11:16pm

Thought I had typed a longer Post.
But tigermaskchi got you. :wgrin:

tigermaskchi · March 27, 2012, 11:19pm

here it is

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/resistors/1-4w-carbon-film-resistors/10-x-resistor-8-2k-8k2-ohm-1-4w-5-carbon-film-pkg-of-10.html

YvoMulder · March 28, 2012, 12:56am

Thank you so much again! I will try to find such resistors here in Holland, which should be no problem
Cheers!

blklightning21 · March 28, 2012, 5:42am

I have a dual mod I did not too long ago using a ps3 TE pcb and for some reason when I play in xbox 360 mode the turbo randomly turns on. I think I remember a long time ago reading that someone else had that problem and was wondering how I should even go about troubleshooting it.
Thanks

BeWrong · March 29, 2012, 9:46am

it turns out my dual shock was an old model and i did a solderless mod. was able to fit everything but only the home button seems to be working. already soldered a resistor and made the ps button work but the other wires doesnt seem to respond. help please.

Daikath · March 29, 2012, 2:55pm

Just wondering. If I don’t use a custom arcade stick PCB with compatability for many consoles. Would I be able to get functionality for different consoles by putting in sacrificed controller PCB’s for several systems in a arcade stick housing and connecting the arcade controls to several PCBs. Will that work for whatever PCB is currently connected to a console?

BeWrong · March 30, 2012, 12:19am

please help on this. if soldering is the only other option, are there any other way to solder wires on an old DS3?

Shadow_Hado · March 30, 2012, 6:32pm

Hey BeWrong! Same guy from Retroids/VGEvo, right? ^ ^

Anywho, as for your question about soldering to the old DS3 - do you still have the other piece of the controller that connects to the main PCB (FPC Board)? If so, you could reconnect it and use that (but then you would need to remove any resistors you’ve added to the main board.)

Honestly, like they said, I recommend you go to www.godlikecontrols.com and order the AXISDapter from Toodles. His stuff is high quality and he’s very active in providing support for any “non-working” components. I just received my order from him last night, installed the TE Kitty, and so far everything works great! Now, I just have to solder in a 360 contr PCB and an Imp Board (basically a switch for multiple inputs minus the switch) into my PS3 TE this weekend. Point is, you won’t be disappointed, although I’m guessing shipping might be a little much, depending on which type you choose. And to be honest, at that point, you might want to just find one of the “easier” PS3 controllers to mod and do that instead. shrug

BeWrong · March 31, 2012, 3:00am

Hey BeWrong! Same guy from Retroids/VGEvo, right? ^ ^

Anywho, as for your question about soldering to the old DS3 - do you still have the other piece of the controller that connects to the main PCB (FPC Board)? If so, you could reconnect it and use that (but then you would need to remove any resistors you’ve added to the main board.)

Honestly, like they said, I recommend you go to www.godlikecontrols.com and order the AXISDapter from Toodles. His stuff is high quality and he’s very active in providing support for any “non-working” components. I just received my order from him last night, installed the TE Kitty, and so far everything works great! Now, I just have to solder in a 360 contr PCB and an Imp Board (basically a switch for multiple inputs minus the switch) into my PS3 TE this weekend. Point is, you won’t be disappointed, although I’m guessing shipping might be a little much, depending on which type you choose. And to be honest, at that point, you might want to just find one of the “easier” PS3 controllers to mod and do that instead. shrug

hey! Shadow! yeah it’s me!

thank you very much for the reply. so it’ll work if I solder the wires directly to the circuit board but where do i solder the ground/common? i see there are circles on the sides of each button so does that mean that one side is the direct contact and the other one is the ground? and won’t it burn through is so thin

nyways thanks very much for responding

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