*The "padhacking" thread*

Tech Talk
3781

I hacked a Madcatz Fightpad for 360 last night, when I plugged it in to my PC to test it the lights on the pad blinked for a second then nothing. The controller does not get power or show up on my PC’s when I plug it in. I hot glues all the usb wires on to the pad so they would nt move so I don’t think thats the problem. I think I may have shortrd it out while soldering the start button on the back of the pad. Any ideas?

Also I have another 360 fightpad I hacked a few months ago. When I hit a button the y axis drops down and won’t go back up. Everything else works fine.

I suck at padhacking

3782

So ok has anybody worked with this PCB?

3783

zeetes has.
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=188312&p=8265334&viewfull=1#post8265334
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=222925&p=8261288&viewfull=1#post8261288

Turbo is needed to switch to Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3.

3784

Does anybody know if the mad catz gamepad for gamecube is common ground? I cant seem to find anything about this gamepad, no pics nada. Im wanting to replace my custom xbox 360 joysticks pcb with a gamecube pcb. Any help would be appreciated.

3785

Wow thats cool if it’s the real deal I may have to get a few of these in my cases. what do you mean by turbo like a turbo button or switch?

3786

Well the Turbo Function, other than for setting Turbo of an Input, is also used for switching Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3.

Default when you get PCB from laugh would be set for Xbox 360.
When want to use on PS3, you hold down Turbo while plug in.
Now that is set for PS3.

When want to use on Xbox 360, you hold down Turbo while plug in.
Now that is set for Xbox 360.

So what I’m saying is that you will have to wire a Button to the Turbo on PCB.
And have the Turbo Button somewhere on the Case.

3787

I see! Like maybe the select button as a dual purpose or a separate button for the job?

3788

I want to make a TvC stick with an official Nintendo Gamecube controller. Do I just solder on top of the black parts?

3789

Good luck with that. (Scrape it off to get to the copper contacts underneath. The contacts will be very small, at the tip of each large black part.)

3790

That pcb is niceeee.

3791

I mangled my Nintendo Gamecube controller, so I got a Gamestop brand one, but how do I get the R trigger to work with a button? Everything else works fine.
[edit]
It’s a Chameleon brand controller.

3792

hey i got question for you guys…

so my gamecube-wii sticks works perfectly, but i only managed to make a,b,x,y and start buttons work.

i built in the gamestop gamecube controllers pcb and theres no diagram that explains where the ground is and where to solder the buttons for the triggers to...

its not bad for TvC but for future games i`d like to make a 6 button layout instead of only four...

any tips?
3793

Hi - Sorry a cry for help…

Objective - Add an OFFICIAL Gamecube PCB to Madcatz SE xbox360…WITHOUT MC Cthulhu board…can’t afford it…

Progress - I cannot find a guide on how to do this. I HAVE searched, people are simply using classic controllers or the MC CThulu boards. I also have the gamecube PCB diagram from Slagcoin (http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/gc_diagram1.jpg) and have currently got all my buttons and directions wired with connections ready for the PCB. at this point the 360 works fine.

Problem - I cannot seem to wire up the gamecube pad properly - im sorry im probably being very n00b like, but i really need some help, some sort of diagram maybe (id pay $5 by pay pal :)) of exactly which wire is soldered where. Ive been up all weekend and am frustrated ! have TvC ready to play :frowning: IM SURE THIS IS A GROUNDING ISSUE of some kind. also, plugging the gamecube controller back in all button work fine, so thats not broken!

I feel like a fucking idiot, to put it lightly, and am now hoping someone out there can shed some light on my problem. Im reading that the gamecube controller might need buttons to be set to ground, rather than live to register as on??ive no idea.

As i said, as poor as i am, im even willing to pay $5 (or potentially $10 if it works cos ill be so happy) to anyone that can provide me with some wiring guide

im sorry i cant just buy mc cthulu, i know there are guides out there.

peace all

3794

Looks like you have the same problem I have, except the Z button. The Z button wire can be soldered to the left soldering point on the z button case. It’s inside the bracket that houses the Z button. Get a multimeter and check the solder point right next to it and your predetermined ground. They are the same.

3795

After doing some more research on the boards, I discovered I need to neutralize the analog triggers in order for the R trigger to work. Has anyone done this before? Especially on a Gamestop Chameleon pad?

3796

i current working on the L/R trigger for the gamecube … once i finish it … and hopefully if i finish it with out destroying my pad, i’ll post it

3797

OK…I’ve decided I want to mod my X360 SE stick for use with TvC…but I have no idea where to start! Info, while in abundance, seems scattered and unordered. There are threads about multiple PCBs in one stick, and all sorts - but seemingly no “one true thread” for this. So I have a few questions! Mostly just to clarify things.

This is the only other thread that comes close to dealing with this…as it states, all other threads just end with ‘use a GC controller instead’.

Basically I’m set on using a Classic Controller; the ‘ideal’ setup is to leave the original USB cable intact, and have another cable coming out of the stick which can be plugged into a Wiimote. Thus, I can either plug it into my 360 for 360 games, or plug it into my Wiimote and have the Wiimote basically treat it as a Classic Controller extension. (But not both at once of course.)

I’m not bothered with all the L/R trigger trickery… for now, all I want are a,b,x,y,+,- and the D-pad which is plenty. I’m not bothered about “quick and dirty” solutions, I’m never going to “show off” my wiring, so long as I can tell everything apart enough to make alterations in the future if/when I have a little more experience. (Probably in order to add the L/R button stuff.)

So - my personal conclusion so far seems to be that piggybacking is the way forward…so I would basically solder connections from the 360 PCB in the stick to the corresponding areas on the PCB taken from the Classic Controller. And in theory I can connect the ground from the 360 PCB to a common ground on the Classic PCB. And thus I am left only with power, which has me mighty confused. If I solder everything as I have just stated - all necessary signals and a common ground - then I would need both PCBs to be powered for it to work correctly. So I can either plug them both in at once (is this a bad idea? also it’s not optimal) or somehow link the power between the two PCBs, so that whichever one is plugged in, they both receive power because it is shared between them.

Thus, my main question is this: How do I account for power? Is it enough to locate the voltage point on the Classic PCB and connect that to the voltage on the 360 PCB? If not, what else must I do?

Secondary question: Am I being totally stupid and missing something vital? Controller + triwing screwdriver are in the post so I can’t test anything out right now. Otherwise I’d probably have fried it all by now…!

Thanks in advance, and also, apologies if I seem like I’m asking for everything on a platter…I just want to be sure :frowning:

3798

Everything you’ve hypothesized is correct. To power both PCBs, just do exactly what you wrote.

BTW, you can actually open Nintendo controllers with a perfectly-sized flathead jeweler’s/micro screwdriver, by inserting the blade into two of the triwing slots and applying pressure downward while unscrewing. Obviously this isn’t advised if you’re going to be frequently opening up a controller that uses triwing screws, as this will quickly strip poor-quality metal, but since you’re gonna be opening it just once, it wouldn’t matter. Of course, you already bought a triwing screwdriver, so… :slight_smile:

3799

i thought that was for the classic controller? oh well i too have a gamestop GC controller,and i really havent messed with the triggers yet but ill try later today cuz it be lame to have only 4 buttons working instead 6

3800

I think I may have posted my question in the wrong thread so reposting it here:

BTW the GCN Controller in question: MadCatz Control Pad Pro