*The "padhacking" thread*

what is a good way to test the connection to see if the job is done right

I am having problems with my digital camera so I can’t get the images on my computer. However it really doesn’t matter as I think I figured the contoller out. Atleast I hope I did, given the soldering is all ready done!

Most multimeters have a setting called Continuity Test mode that will beep or swing the needle or something when there is a connection between the two probes. My dad’s (which I have been using as I am a tooless college student) actually doesn’t have a seperate mode, it’s just part of the ohm meter mode. It sits on 1 if there is no connection but shows an actual resistence if there is one.

You could also try hooking up your PCB to a console/computer and then manually touching various wires to ground to see if it registers as a button press like it should. This is described much better in some of the guides/walkthroughs you can find through the Official Custom Arcade Stick Thread.

I need 2 pre-Soldered PS2 Boards. Can anyone do this for me and i’ll be more than happy to pay. Need The boards before Evo.

Hi guys, newbie needing help here:

I got a stick donated to me by generous SRK member doughboy. He said the start button wasn’t working. I opened the stick up and neither the start or select buttons were even wired. I thought ā€œeasyā€.

So I am not sure how to wire the start button since I haven’t found a picture of the PCB I have. The joystick and buttons worked before I did anything.

Then I noticed on all the buttons are all chained to each other via the ā€œnot openā€ prongs and the ā€œcommonā€ connections are wired straight to the PCB.

But everything seemed to be working (I think, I didn’t test too in depth) and so I wired the start button by copying what the previous guy who wired it did: I soldered the common lead on the button to the spot on the controller that already had solder on it and said ā€œstartā€ (the bottom of the circular connection) and then soldered the ā€œnormally onā€ connection of the button to one of the posts where the buttons are daisychained together.

Now the buttons that are already soldered still work, but when I press the start button the PS2 says ā€œplease attach a dual shock controllerā€, as if I unplugged the joystick.

My questions:

  1. Why is it doing this?

  2. Why was it wired with the normally open prongs on the buttons chained together anyways, I thought the commons were supposed to be chained together?

Anyone know if you can hack the MadCatz ā€œNBAā€ PS2 pads they have at EB/Gamestop for 4.99 or the ā€œofficialā€ Gamestop PS2 controllers? I tried doing the NBA pad, but it just acts like all the buttons are being pressed rapidly.

Quick question (hopefully I can get an answer before tomorrow):

I have an original DC pad, but I have a problem, the little black box/chip deal is missing for the right trigger. Can I still solder to the point and have it work without blowing my DC up, or should I just give up hope (because I have no means to buy new pads for a few months).

-Thanks.

I have a bunch of really dumb questions. Mostly, I’m just wanting to proof-check what I think I already understand. I want to tear the PCB out of a PSX pad and use it for a custom stick. It’s my first attempt at building one, so let’s assume I know nothing.

I bought a couple of these controllers: second one on this page
(H series, the grey one on this page without analog sticks)
I figured it would be easy to hack because it’s digital only. I’ll have to test compatibility before I even start. Maybe I wasted my money hahah.

All I do is take out the PCB and disconnect everything from it except the controller cord, right?

Then I solder a wire to the appropriate contact point on the PCB and stick a female quick disconnect on the end and stick that onto one of the prongs on each microswitch… right?

http://img0716.paintedover.com/uploads/thumbs/0716/zwiresall_1.png

Is there a particular kind of wire I should be using? … or avoiding? Man, I feel a little silly here.

Will the controller register funny with the console if I don’t solder anything to the contacts for the unused buttons? (L1 and L2 for me)

For the second prong of each microswitch, am I correct that any prong can be wired to any ground contact, and that any and all of the ground prongs can be daisy-chained together without restriction?

http://img0716.paintedover.com/uploads/thumbs/0716/zwiresdaisy.png

I wanted to double-check this because it all seems a little too easy. Maybe I’ll change the tune I’m whistling once I start breaking all my parts. :lol:

As usual, thanks a ton in advance for any and all help!

The first pic I can not see but the other looks ok. You just daisychain the ground (like in your picture).
I use 26 gauge (some use 24 and lower) stranded wire (it contains 7 smaller wires). I do not think solid wire is so good, stranded is more flexible.
Just solder to the buttons you like, don`t have to be all off them.

I think I have a good picture somewhere, hold on…

http://www.arkadesticks.com/psonetest.jpg

This is just so you know how it looks. In the picture I use 2 groundwires (one for joystick and one for the buttons) but it is ok to just have one also.

http://arkadesticks.com/hackedpads/PSOneDualShockH.jpg

Where to solder…

I fixed the link, but I don’t suppose it’s particularly important anymore. Thanks a ton for the quick replies, man.

I have a few more questions in preparation for my first attempt at stick-building.

*The controllers I’d like to try using are the very old Series H grey PSX pads, without analog sticks. *

Compatibility - I thought I remembered reading that these controllers have some compatibility problems. So far they work just fine with every PS2 fighter I’ve tested, as well as VF5 and T5DR on PS3 (Pelican adapter ftw). I haven’t had the chance to try Dreamcast adapters yet. Are there any issues I should be aware of?

Unused buttons - Will the controller behave irregularly if I don’t solder anything to the contacts for buttons I won’t have on my stick? (L1 and L2 for me)

Ease of hack - I’ve never done any padhacking before; this will be my first attempt. Are my super-old controllers a bad choice? I picked them up because I assumed digital-only would be easy to work with.

New to this forum and this is exactly the kind of help i have been looking for!

  1. If the pad works with the converters you have, then it works. Don’t sweat it.
  2. Nope. For buttons you arent using, just ignore them.
  3. I agree that they are easier to work with. If you can look at the pcb and you feel confident you can solder to whatever is there to solder onto, then you’ll be fine.

I have a DS2 but don’t know where to solder on the pad to have it work on a custom stick I plan on making. can anyone help? I tried looking allover the threads but could’t find anything.

Your answers highlight for me how silly my questions were (I sort of figured this in advance), but it was very reassuring to have someone verify those things for me. Thanks for the help, man! :lol:

I have zero experience padhacking so take what I tell you with a grain of salt… but from what I’ve heard, DS2’s are wayyyy harder to work with. It’s why everyone seems to prefer the original PS controllers.

Because it’s difficult. Possible, but too difficult to be worth it. Just hunt down a digital pad or a DS1. (or UPCB).

http://mechatronics.mech.northwestern.edu/stack_files/Img0013.jpg

If you’re soldering to holes in the PCB, the joints should look like that.

Never put solder on the iron unless it is to clean it (which you aren’t). I recommend watching the first two of these videos:

http://tangentsoft.net/elec/movies/

PSX modding question

Is it ok to rip off the wires connected to the shoulder buttons on a PSone pad :sweat:

Yes it is, just solder onto the main PCB where the wires to the shoulder buttons connected to and you should be fine.

So, I want to put together a custom arcade stick pretty much for the hell of it (I’m not a competitive fighting game player or anything), and I want to build it out of a wireless Logitech Cordless Action PS2 controller. Anyone know the general layout of the PCB, or any hidden gotchas? I’ve taken it apart in the past and have the general idea of how the shoulder buttons hook up, but I can’t tell which part of the face button contacts is ground and which isn’t.

I’m in engineering school right now, so I kinda sorta know what I’m doing, but I was just wondering if there are any hidden gotchas I should know about.

follow the traces, the ground will go to like everybutton and be much broader.
generally pcbs all follow the same generic routine the only problem would be a convinent way to change batteries for the wireless control