*The "padhacking" thread*

I thought I would share the results of my first padhacks.

My two dreamcast pads.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_nNcVLzdKf-c/SawuqFA6xGI/AAAAAAAAAcg/U5fvlacEpBE/s800/Hacked-DC-Pin-Out.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_nNcVLzdKf-c/SawsEFunNWI/AAAAAAAAAcY/5olBYVfWlD4/s800/Controllers%20Done.jpg

Nobody ever answered my question on the problems I was having with soldering, but if it helps anybody else the main issue was that using the dremel to open the traces created a coat of grime on the pcb that I had to wipe away with rubbing alcohol and a q-tip. Also instead of trying to tin the wire and solder the wire to the pcb it worked much better to first heat the pcb and add a small dab of solder, and then solder the wire to that.

Very secure connection this way.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8854/confusionun7.jpg

This is how I plan to run my ground wires.

I’m just curious about the bumpers… can anyone confirm that this will work?

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p244/IceWilly/Joystick/P1010013.jpg

Mine is mirrored from yours:

mine:
Shielded/Ground/Green/White/Red

yours should be:
Red/White/Green/Black/Shielded

and it is. you are correct sir

Does anyone know if the 360 DDR pad is as nicely hackable as the PS1 DDR pad?

Hi i am new to this so go easy on me, but i have a Playstation 1 digital series H controller and im confused a lil bit on the soldering do i solder like the PSX dual shock H one on the first page, by scratching off the black parts or like in this picture

http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram1.jpg

or should i stop where i am at and just buy the dual shock psx H series

I’d recommend getting a Dual Shock if possible for better compatibility with adapters.

I’m trying to wire a hrap (ps2) to an x360 pcb (standard wired controller) and I’m having trouble wiring the stick.

I soldered the common wire to the inside points of the d-pad and soldered the directional wires to their appropriate spots but whenever I test it out it’s all wonky. I tested it using training mode in SF4, whenever I moved the stick it would jump towards my opponent. Any ideas as to what I’m doing wrong?

X button problems in madcatz 2008 pad

thanks willy for the info on the usb. everything looks right. anyways i soldered everything according to the diagrams that are out there, but when my x button is pressed the x button action happens then quickly followed by the guide opening up. but pressing the guide only activates the guide. idk what to do. look everywhere to see if anything was getting shorted but everything looks fine in my opinion. was wondering if there was any alternate x button points or maybe anyone else had this problem.

so i traced the problem. my cthulhu board"s punch 1 point is causing the weird anomaly. when ā€œp1/squareā€ cable comes together with the ā€œxā€ cable in the terminal strip it cause it to go to guide. when removing the p1 cable, the x works normally. i havent had a chance to test it on a ps3 to see if the home would come up after pressing square. need help asap. i wanna play sf4 with my stick (this is all being tested on the 360)

I know this has been discussed to death but I still can’t get my head around it and was wondering if anyone could help me. I’m trying to wire up the triggers on a xbox 360 wireless matrix controller. So far this has been the best explanation on how to do it that I’ve been able to find. Is this the right way of doing this and for this to work what do I need to do with the actual triggers themselves? Like leave them on, take them off etc?

Yep, for the official controller that’s exactly what you need to do. Remove the plastic trigger hardware and desolder the pots, then solder a resistor and wiring as seen in that pic.

Okay… there are way too many pages to read and decided to stop at 85 from the end of this thread, reading backwards.

Quick question… so if I decide to wire the triggers on a wired MS xbox 360 controller can I just connect the RT and LT solder points to the signals of my buttons if I leave the triggers on the PCB? Atleast that’s what I got from reading a few pages.

I wouldn’t mind doing the resistor method (if the above method does not work… but I’ll prefer the above since it looks like less work), but I just can’t follow what exactly needs to be done, though I get the gist of it. If someone could explain it to me in a little more detail I think I will be able to get it.

Are all the directions using a common ground on your Xbox controller? (early model or late model)

Didn’t even see this or I would’ve posted about it earlier. If you look on the diagram you copied, the backside shows the connection points for LB and RB. LB shares a common with Left, and RB shares a common with Up, Down, and A. Your chains look fine for what you had.

Check my post directly above yours… :stuck_out_tongue: The link I quoted has a pic of exactly how to wire the trigger on the MS official pads with a resistor when you remove the pot. Any resistor from like 5k-10k should be fine.

As for hooking it up without removing the pot, I’m not sure. You can’t just chain the button in to the common with the other buttons, either way, as the triggers are both on a true ground, but all of other buttons and the dpad are on a separate common. Try hooking two wires to the ground and middle pin, plug the controller into your pc, and short them to see if it activates the trigger. If so, you’ll be fine, if not, go for the resistor method.

Yes, if you have no intention of using the Triggers as functional on/off buttons… just leave the pots on there. You may have to adjust them a bit so they are zero’ed out, but if you don’t remove them you don’t have to do the diode bit. But you can’t wire these to any buttons or anything, they will just sit there unused.

If you want to map the trigger’s to buttons, you have to zero them out using other methods. I personally have no desire for 8 buttons, I like 6 button layout. So I had no reason to go through these steps. It’s a pain to do it… if you are just going to use it for SFIV easy ultras/throws/FA’s.

Hello guys! First of all you had a great forum with lots of information.

I need your help and advice, I bought a copy of SFIV for the 360, so I decided to make amy own custom Arcade controller, using a Mad Catz wired controller ( earlier version) :

So I have some questions, that I have been looking in the forums, but really, I haven’t find them. How can I use the RT and LT Buttons? I know that I need to use some resistors, but I don’t know where to put them.

Also, I wired all the other buttons and the D Pad, and It seems it worked, I mean, I conected the controller to mi PC and all the buttons worked but wht I plugged to the 360 I could use ā€œAā€ in the menu, but during a fight, only the punch buttons worked… so I have no idea what went wrong, 'cause I plugged again to the pc and all buttons worked perfectly.

so… any Ideas? Advice? Thanks a lot.

Please post a good picture of the setup and how you wired it.

It makes no sense that the A button would work in the menus but NOT while fighting???

((Also, did you reconfigure your button layout? Could that be why only punch buttons worked in the match???))

I will try to post some pictures, but seriously, I know it don’t make sense, but for example, I plugged it to my 360, and it didn’t worked, then I tried to plug it in my PC and it worked with MAME, I even played Marvel vs Street Fighter and all the punches and kicks worked fine

Check this thread.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=169203

I’ve seen that picture before… but I’m just not sure how the wiring works. So is one of those signal and the other a ground? Or are they both signals and the ground is another wire? I’m just not sure how that works. I read through a bit of the forum as well… but didn’t come up with any answers.

Thanks for the info… I’m actually going to use the triggers, so I guess I have to use the resistor method. Back to research.