Trials are beginner stuff. They’re not gonna show you every trick and exploit in the game. xD
Idgaf about a tutorial. But combo trials with assists wouldnt be that hawt. Find out ya own shit! That was the fun of magic series
Blocking trials would be fun though
Lol just realized that trials aren’t online >>
They’re useful tho if we’re honest got getting truly new people up to speed with basics. They’re not required to do anyways, unless you’re OCD.
No one SHOULD, but striving to be the best is how humans are hard-wired.
NEW PLAN GUYS
What I want to do is to a DS4 signature page, except I want it done on “GGPO Netplay for MVC3.” For sure, features are important, however I think that netplay is important, and almost everybody in this thread agrees that GGPO is probably the best netcode for fighting games. So go to the signature thread that will soom be up.
Thank you in advance.
should that be here or in FG discussion?
Arguably here. The lone exception we’ve had is for Magnetro & Joo’s artistic masterpiece.
Ok. I just thought it would be seen by more folk
you guys make me feel like such a negative nelly 
But seriously, a petition? >>
Rematch
I just had an interesting discussion with a friend of mine who used to work for Lucasarts about the whole netcode thing, and it was a really interesting conversation. He found it odd (to say the least) that we’re second-guessing professional software engineers, (somebody else linked to this, worth looking at for when we want to question actual experts)
He promised to send me a bunch of stuff about the technical requirements of making netplay work for Live or PSN, but that’s coming tomorrow.
It is worth mentioning tho’ that GGPO’s P2P nature will never ever be reflected on any consoles, it has to go through live and psn, as well as the console’s extremely robust netcode. We can talk about rollback vs. delay, but some of the core features that make GGPO work are impossible on Xbox or PS3.
Unfortunately I forgot to ask about HDR, but I"ll do that impossible.
GGPO is already fully featured on a XBL/PSN title. That’s total bullshit. Arksys managed to make something similar to GGPO for BBCS just fine.
Basically, saying GGPO wouldn’t work on XBL/PSN is a total fabrication. Its a matter of licensing a product that works or using code already on hand internally. Its money, not feasibility.
Some of us are professional software engineers. :lol: The Xbox Live dev team was/is comprised of my old coworkers, headed by my former boss. inkblot and ponder know most of those people, although I don’t know if they’ve kept in touch.
Every development team makes mistakes or makes certain design decisions one way that lead to a compromise this way as opposed to that way. For (perfect) example, MvC2 Live ships with the sprite filters on and lag input high. Arguably nice for casual, disruptive for online ranked.
So yeah, let’s not get all meta and disregard input. 
was gonna fisk them both, but eeh, its late.
Probably should have waited, because second-hand posting is dangerous (He actually said to wait, but you know how it is, impatience is the human condition :p)
Chinn: My understanding is that aspects do, (like HDR used), but that other aspects don’t. Again second hand so I can’t chase it too far Even to my own limits I doubt its’ licensing fees tho’
Preppy: that’s great, and yeah we could get deeply meta, and I’d be the first to admit I’m no expert on netcode. He just had a lot to say about it and I thought it was pretty interesting. If what he sends me tomorrow is interesting I’ll put it up, tho’.
My own position is that it’s moot because they’re not gonna change anything at this point, but I’ve said that more than once already and was trying to put something new into the conversation 
I do think you hit on something interesting; they do things sometimes that aren't wrong, just not what we'll like (as in your MvC2 examples). I guess that's not helpful tho', because they're unsurprisingly super-unwilling to actually say what they did, let alone why.
PS: I do think petitions are silly, lets leave that for the sites that we all have fun mocking :P
Edit: Should add, there's really no harm in asking of course, its just that I remember the Darkstalkers debacle, where he specifically ASKED for a petition, and all we got for it was a huge Fuck You of impossibility. Fool me once shame on you >>
Third edit: aha!does the filter lag input the guy you’re playing against if they have the filters off?
Barry Bonds took steroids to put himself at the top of the homerun “leaderboards.” College programs illegally pay their players to get to the top of the BCS “leaderboards.”
Cheating is part of any competition.
I never said it wasn’t. I was complaining about encouraging the mentality of doing something for the sake of a title or accolade because it encourages cheating (rage quitting), not cheating itself.
lol @ windy…
ggpo is already used on ps3\xbl for mvc2, hdr, final fight. ITS ALREADY THERE BEING USED! to say its impossible to do when its already being used is pretty stupid if not actually mentally retarded.
Well, way I see it, so long as its GGPO or the MvC2 netcode with the aformentioned problems solved, MvC3 will be godlike.
I think that he means that GGPO has never been used on a 3d game before. I don’t know if it would work well either.