The Online Play Discussion Thread

There’s no real reason for the stages to cause lag. You don’t really care if the backgrounds for the two players desync so you can just let them run in their own thread or whatever and then forget about them. They’re going to take time to draw but that shouldn’t effect online play (if it can handle the backgrounds at 60fps in single player then it can in multi too) and most of the really flashy, memory-hogging effects cover the whole screen in MvC3 so you can stop drawing the background anyway. I mean, why bother?

So I wouldn’t worry too much about the backgrounds. Just enjoy the show.

I’ve already stated that HDR came out 2 years before sf4 hit the arcades. I don’t even think sf4 was even being developed yet. So even before they even started making the game, they already knew you had to program games a certain way to allow a roll back netcode but when the game gets the ok for development, they choose not to do it for some reason.

and ponder has stated several times he could make ggpo work with sf4 but capcom wouldn’t let him try.

alpha 2 on ggpo, mvc2 on x360 and ssf4 online all suffer from additional frame skipping\input lag due to stages. The stages do affect the input lag\frame skip. Somehow what stage you’re on affects how the inputs will register.

as to an article, it would have to be somebody they’d listen/talk to.

Still, we freakin’ know what they’re gonna say :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: I wonder why I can’t quit this thread?

  • Lobbies
  • Online training
  • rematch option for 1v1
  • Save replay option
  • Team battle, yes I know this would be murder on the latency but you and 2 buddies controlling one team could be fun (otherwise make it avaliable offline

We’ll prolly end up getting a ranked mode, which I don’t really care for anymore since (like SF4) BP says nothing.

I would suggest that MvC3’s characters shouldn’t sync with the background during online matches. That way there’s far less information to sync over the network connection and allows a much smoother connection. They can also focus more on prediction and input acknowledgement without needing to deal with the stage animation on top of it.

Too late its already there with Peter Parker in the New York Float stage and Tron Bonne in her stage.

i’m just gonna say it fuck it. You’re a mother fucking idiot. Not only are your posts moronic\stupid, I doubt you can even play 1 fighting game @ an average level. Since you can’t play, your opinion is TRASH. Just stop talking about anything and everything. Learn to play first and when you have some EXP, maybe your opinions won’t suck 100% of the time. Remember the shit you typed so far. There is no reason for c.lp to be in a VS game? then there was characters are REALLY easy to master in VS games even though strider\spiral have been evolving for 10 years let alone what xvsf has been doing. Remember when you said there is virtually NO footsies in the VS games? yea that was doozer lol.

I don’t know how anyone with such a limited grasp on the concepts would even want to open their mouth. If I knew nothing, as I did 4 years ago, I would shut my mouth and read or ask questions instead of making retarded statements over and over and over.

and if the net play is already cemented, this is because new players such as yourself prefer x character in the game, with x stage, you need these costumes other wise its trash, you need these voice actors and we need to talk about which notation to use!

I don’t have a problem with new players but when you start affecting a games outcome, I’m going to speak up. When this forum first allowed mvc3, I stated my problems about ssf4 net play numerous times, go back and look if you want to. It was my MAIN concern as it was the main concern of other players who know how to play. My main concern isn’t a notation thread and thats exactly whats wrong with modern srk.

new players care about dumb shit that doesn’t matter and experienced players just want a good game and good net play. If it was nothing but good players posting, superior net play would of been a HUGE topic of concern because we understand where the community is currently @.

when the community was asked about what they wanted to see, top\pro players said NET PLAY IS CRUCIAL, however there were so many scrubs
ew players asking for aesthetics that I’m sure that actual good player voices weren’t heard.

it has something to do with that. For some reason, the characters inputs are related to stage somehow seeing as how its been a problem in more than 1 capcom game. Technically this problem has been in 3 generations of fighting games, a2, mvc2 and now ssf4.

Its gotta be the way they’re programming their games.

Net play was cemented regardless. Unless the 1% of actual good players can convince the 99% of casuals that net play is actually important, then it will NEVER be heard. As much as I would like this opinion to actually get through to Capcom, it won’t. I got better things to do with my life rather than stress over this, like, actually getting a degree and a career.

I am going to re-emphasize this.

SINCE THERE IS GOING TO BE NO ARCADE SCENE FOR THIS GAME CAPCOM, FOCUS ON MAKING THE ONLINE BETTER.

NO INPUT LAG BASED NETCODE.
ROLLBACK WOULD BE NICE.
A GOOD RANKING SYSTEM. NUMBER LEVELS WOULD BE NICE.
MORE GREEN BAR.
ONLINE LOBBYS.
QUICK MATCH AS WELL AS CUSTOM.
WIN/LOSS KEPT IN A RECORD.
BP=EXP
AMOUNT OF POINTS YOU GET DETERMINED BY HOW WELL YOU DID IN THE MATCH.(PERFECT GETS YOU MAX POINTS)
RAGEQUIT=LOSS
TITLES AND ICONS WOULD BE NICE.

I will probably repost this on every page to make sure that if anyone from capcom reads this topic, they get the message.

Im dying!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Ok back to reality.

Please lets not have negativity here. Lets all be happy :wgrin:

EDIT: This btw

lol I broke him.

Edit: also lol@‘new players’, I’m old man, older than the sun. Was playing fighters before most of the people on here were born. Not that seniority matters at all of course, but still.

take notes new players, this is how you do it.

good shit.

the only thing that’s broke is your brain cause you can’t even comprehend BASIC concepts.

I’m just gonna say can you and shoultz stop and continue post some useful suggestions to make online better, please?

It’s kinda annoying when shoultz argues, because there is always SOMEONE who never stops.

Month 1 Marvel 3 announcement eh? RUN IT BACK

I’m barely doing anything. The only thing I said to him was that if somebody’s gonna poll the top players and get a serious response it would have to be somebody they’re likely to give some time to, and they’re less likely to give any time for a serious discussion to some random guy off the street.

And I think we do know what they’ll say.

They were both perfectly legitimate responses, don’t be an enabler man.

Shouldn’t this topic get a sticky to broaden the appeal and show people how much of a concern online should be to this community?

Considering SRK houses about…5% at best of the community, I don’t think it would matter.

Okay, being negative about it doesn’t help anything and just creates tension. Please don’t do it.