i already copied new team bas. Same colors too, lol. HP honda, HP blanka, MP bison.
i copied bas’s new team too 
3kicks honda, 3punches bison, 3punch blanka. blanka as R2, cuz of LZJ’s reasoning plus my bison CC is still in practice. i got 2 weeks to practice bison’s CC. if i can’t learn it by the next tourny, imma just use A-eagle :badboy:
i’m still curious as to why BAS uses R2 bison. maybe it’s cuz of the big “comeback” you can do with bison? or maybe it’s jsut bas’s best character.
snakedizzle:i don’t see how N-terry can rush against sagat and blanka either. hell it’s already difficult enough to rush sagat and blanka with SAGAT and blanka…
and i dont’ care what anyone thinks, maki is top tier in my heart :encore:
i’m actually really curious as to what buktooth ranks each of the mid tier characters to each other, and his reasoning for it. but then again, the mid tier cast aren’t played as much and there’s just WAY too many opinions about each of them, since very many of us hasn’t seen the full potential of each character, making it hard to compare. oh well.
Yeah, Bison R2 is for comebacks, AND it seems like he’s Bas’s fav char. A Blanka Sak Bison r2 fights P/K better than A Sak Bison Blanka imo because Sak comes in with meter, and she usually leaves enough for Bison to make a huge comeback. Terry sucks.<–period I’ve always hated the way Terry plays in CvS, just seems really gay and lame to me.
Hey fags-stop copying BAS. Play the team that works best with YOU not some jp you idolize.
Snakedizzle-You’re a scrub, don’t talk. Ever.
Since when is RC Honda the most feared character in CvS2? I might agree if like any us player was near as good as Mago or Bas with him.
In short. R2 Bison is the comeback king.
For once I have to agree with epsilon here. I think you guys are a bunch of fags for copying some Japanese team just because you saw it in some videos yesterday. OMG! I’m going to use the same color! 
Terry is damn BUM btw… I used to think this character had potential too, but now I think he sucks.
There’s a mistake in the CvS2 book. It says Crack Shoot leaves Terry at +/-0. +1 for the HK version. That means Terry should be safe right? I didn’t believe it myself at first, but you can actually hit Terry for FREE afterwards, blocked or HIT. What kind of stupid move lets the other guy kill you even after you’ve hit them with it? Sagat gets a free d.HP xx super after any strength crack shoot. That means Terry must be at least -8 after connecting with this move. Not even two hit close s.HP, df+HP xx Crack Shoot as a blocked string leaves Terry safe.
d.LK, d.LK xx level 2 doesn’t combo unless you’re at point blank range. Why? What other low hitting, hit confimable combos is Terry going to do? Capcom should of made it so Terry can combo short, short xx level 1 from any distance if they wanted him to be good.
He’s a tall character as well. Sagat s.LP patterns rape this fool.
Truth is, 90% of all the Terry players out there are all the fanboy scrubs who only use him because they love SNK so much. Yeah, couple of alright players have used Terry in tourney before, but the fact of the matter is, they probably could of picked Yuri or Kyosuke and still beat the competition they were playing against.
Stop talking about Terry. I hate this character. Most Terry players here don’t even know about his four frame d.MP or how powerful his meaty d.HP is. They just do run up sweep all day and close s.HP into Crack Shoot blocked strings (hit or blocked btw… they don’t even care), and then they die because Terry’s a bum.
very gay
doesn’t that include almost ALL srk member who play cvs2?
-didn’t john choi pick up daigo’s team?(not to mention a lot of people copying John choi, who indirectly copy daigo)
-doesn’t everyone and their mother use K-cbs
-aren’t nearly all the high ranking players using one or two of BAS’s original team if not all three?
-doesn’t most of the members learn at least half their tactics from watching videos of people better than them?
-don’t you guys just copy what everyone else’s winning sagat strats?
so what’s the difference in copying japanese player than learning it from discussions among ourselves(whom a lot of us base discussions off japanese players).
i started playing with maki before i knew who the hell iyo was. i kept with her, but then i found some iyo vids and i started to watch them to pick up some tricks. and yes…in the end i still copied japanese players.
i played K-rock before OTK’s vid came out. but once they came out, i stole everything i saw from the vids and used it. once again i copied japanese vids. there’s no avoiding it, we’ll all end up copying japanese anyways, why not just do it right away if you feel like it?
guys. look at the honda strat section. it’s fucking dead…BAS’s new vid brought life to honda. at least for some of us who wants to learn honda has someone good to learn off of.
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okay, so what if…you don’t idolize BAS, but that team works best for you? and you only tried it out cuz you saw potential in that team from watching those vids, and now it became the “team that works best with you”? still a fag?
you go around the whole cast of characters, and find out team bas or ino or whatever insert jpn name here team you use, turns out that it’s the best team for you? technically copied that team right?
anyways. here’s something that’s been bugging me. terry is considered to be better than raiden(according to buk’s low tier thread). however i’ve actually seen a high lvl player use raiden in a tourny, but i never even heard of a high lvl player using terry in a tourny. what’s up with that.
Quit your bitchin’!!! Stop being a little crybaby. Get used to some fuckin’ change. Let people own you with whatever team they want. And stop bitchin’ about it. :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :lame:
And how are you gonna call me a scrub? Remember this post? It’s from another thread.
Your a scrub and stop trying to act like you know how to play! You never played me so dont call me a scrub, but you said it yourself that you suck so I guess Thats proof that you should shut up about other people. You aint special so quit being a whiny little fag. So STFU if all your gonna do is bitch and brag, especially if you think that being a scrub gives you a right to brag.
vasaznion13-You’re 100% right. I doubt that most people know what the term “custom” combo means. They just bite off what CCs and characters the best people use. But there isnt anything wrong with that, because how many good Bison or Sakura CCs do you know of that isnt Paint the fence or shoshosho. Still, it’s wrong to bitch about using a good team, because someone really good uses them. Honda just may be the next big thing. Would anyone have said something like this about Sagat or Blanka a long time ago?
And Everybody…
I used Terry such a fuckin’ long time ago. I guess alot has changed since then. I was just posting what I would’ve posted like a year ago. I dont know how he is as of now, but he seemed like a decent character a long time ago. And I’m not a SNK fanboy. I dont even know much about SNK or any of their games. I used Terry, because at the time he seemed pretty decent at the time. But whatever, this is a tier thread and I still think he’s more mid than low.
Eh… It was a bit of an overexageration. Simple as that. I was just saying that N-Terry was upper mid to prove a point that he was a decent character. but, By no means, do I think Terry is acually upper mid. Me saying that was because someone was camparing him to Kim and he claimed that Kim was upper mid so I gave a few reasons why N Terry WOULD be upper mid if he was. I guess what I was trying to say came out wrong.
What I find funny is that all this arguing wouldn’t even be said in real life at all, by anyone.
pretty funny coming from you since the only characters you considered good are the ones buk, viscant and the japanese mentioned.
you are the same person that says rolento sucks ass in A groove in gamefaqs, called joe garbage since no one placed with him, saying that a team sucks cuz balrog is in it and he sucks, and dogged eagle earlier in this thread since hes not as dominant as other characters.
infact you encourage the use of sak, blanka and bison in A groove.
My opinion on the entire Choi biting Daigo thing:
Who cares if people bite other players teams; big deal. John Choi did it and now hes better than Daigo. I say this because I seen Choi play at MWC, and all of his characters are top notch. Yes, Buk agreeing with me on this further solidifies my belief. Especially because Buk has played with both of them more than any of us–and believes it himself. And Ricky told me Choi probably has the best Chun li on the planet (well this was like last summer), but if I would have said that in a post here someone would have said “oh no way man, ohnuki made chun li popular therefore he is the best with her.” Besides all my rants – just because Daigo made his new team Ken/Guile/Sagat and hes a Jap doesnt mean Choi couldnt be better.
well, you did acknowledge the fact that you didn’t kno sagat’s s.short was good(until this thread). kind of gives the impression that you might not know all that much, since s.short is highly abused nowadays.
i’ve seen kim in tournies, haven’t seen terry yet. i think terry is pretty good too, but i know that i wouldn’t want to rely on terry in a tourny. i mean i might use C-terry, cuz his corpse hop game is pretty strong, but run groove terry doesn’t seem like he can do much other than gaurd crush. he lacks a crossup, his specials can get RCed thru or JDed a lot easier than most character’s special(though they are still pretty good). he can go into super from a short. but then again a lot of other characters are like that?
this is what i’ve kind of wanted to see discussed in this thread. more about the mid tier characters, what their main flaws are, why people may or may not use that character, and other miscellaneous stuff.
well isn’t that what the forums are for? i mean i know i sure as hell wouldn’t walk up to some random guy at the arcade and say “dude, wanna discussion cvs2 tiers?”.
so anyways. A-honda seems to be the new thing thanks to bas. i dont’ hear a lot of honda anyways, so let’s discuss.
buktooth rates C-honda as top tier. why? honda(w/roll) is a good battery and can do damage without bar. but what puts C-honda above A or N? does honda really make much more use of airblock(i.e.chickengaurd?). or is the fact that he has a pretty damaging lvl 2 make him that much better than A or N?
i’m sure A-honda has a DECENT CC(though bas doesn’t use it), but doesn’t having full CC bar make honda just as deadly as honda sitting on lvl 2? so where does A/N-honda stand on the tier
list?
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me bringing up choi using daigo’s team was just to show an example of why you shouldn’t diss on trend whores, cuz pretty much everyone does it, even the people who hate on trend whores.
who cares about who picks who? i think it should be dropped.
as for the whole a honda thing, i remember reading a post from gunter saying how good a honda was months ago. probably the single most dominating battery in the game. it’s basically the c groove formula switched to a groove.
This thread fucking sucks
Eh. I dont really use Sagat too much. So it’s not really required to know everything about a character that I merely use on the side. Besides, it’s not required to play a good Sagat, but it does help alot.
I would never ever even think of using Terry in a tourny. Kim maybe(not a surious one), but never Terry. I never said Terry was all that great, I just said that he was decent.
my bad, i’ll stay on topic.
so does that merit A-honda to be up with the top tiers?
last night i d/led some more new BAS vids. A-honda takes it up the ass from A-sak, C-guile, etc early game, but BAS just persistantly RC headbutt/slaps all day as if he didn’t give a shit. he gets a few counterhits with it and the game is even again. the main thing i remember from those vids is the fact that he goes through A-sak and C-guile by abusing RC headbutt and slaps almost without a care of getting hit.
he had an interesting way of comboing into CC with honda(didn’t get to see the full damage of the custom cuz the opponent was almost dead already). he does RC handslaps as an AA(them in the corner) and basically activates off that. so it seems he DOES have way(s) to combo into CC.
i read somewhere that honda can do RC handslaps and link into c.fierce? or something like that? does anyone kno exactly how to do this?
anyways with all things said, should A-honda be considered as at least high tier?(up with Pkyo,krock/geese, etc)
-he’s been know to rape characters without using bar
-he can SIT on full CC and use it whenever(plus he doesn’t need to so people have to fight against honda sitting on full bar all day)
-his s.fierce seems good as an AA(if you dont’ have charge ready for headbutt) cuz it trades often and who the hell wants to trade with that shit.
true choi pretty much used every daigo team, n-groove team, C-cammy/chun/ken/guile/sagat combinations. Not sure if it’s a coincidence or what, but i think daigo prolly only bites off fellow japs (dan).
buk’s team is friggin’ unique tho, never seen anyone else use it.
i saw those new vids too, pretty nice. Bas’s honda is dope but his Blanka is even sicker now.
btw i was joking about picking up bas’s new team, nice to know the insecure ones already jumping in with “don’t copy team X.” Kcxj aren’t you the one asking tips on how to play team daigo? Next thing you know, you’re going to say that you’ve never bit off any jap. EVERYONE COPIES at some point or another. It’s part of the game, no one player can think of all the strategies himself. Let’s nip this shit in the bud shall we.
where are these new bas matches at… ?
honda with rc has always been nasty. n honda can rape just as bad as c honda if played correctly. low jump fierce kick, rc hands is god like. but is a honda top tier, i don’t think so. a honda will never be as good as c. but in an a team, he is still dope. again, the perfect battery.
in order to link cr fierce after rc hands, the opponent has to be really close to you and it has to be done on counter hit. the timing is pretty tight though. scrubby as it sounds, i usually get it by mashing fp. btw, i’d never try it in a real match. it’s hard as hell. i’m not sure but i think it only works on fatter characters. i’ve never been able to use it against kyo on wake up.
so what’d you say again? please, just stop posting false information.
ANYWAYS
here’s how you link RC honda hands into crouching fierce. HONDA HAS TO ROLL CANCEL MP (STRONG) HONDA HANDS, NOT FIERCE ONES. RC MP honda hands leave him at +7 on hit, and his crouching fierce comes out in 6 frames. thus, a 1 frame link. they have to pretty much be hit at point blank range for the crouching fierce to reach. and you just input the RC MP hands, and don’t mash or anything, because then you’ll be pushed out of range. NO COUNTER HITS ARE NECESSARY.
honda is a beast because he’s a tank. his vitality is among the highest in the game, he dishes out obscene damage, and has abusable RC’s. C honda gains roll into level 2 super, but that’s about it. chicken blocking doesn’t do much for him because honda should just be pressing standing fierce or RC headbutt to AA somebody jumping in. i think C/A/N honda are ostensibly the same because they can RC…it’s that simple.
peace
Joe sucks. Balrog sucks. I never said A Rolento sucks, I said C is better. I said the characters that buk and viscant and whoever else listed because they ARE good. Not because omg I xcopy japanese people. Jps are good, and I respect that but don’t use a character/color/team/groove because someone else did. Use it because YOU like it. That’s what your idols do. Choi used that team BEFORE Daigo, scrubs.
Snakejizzle:I’ll call you a scrub when and where ever the hell I want. k? You think Terry is good, and you think Sagats s.short isnt that good, that’s a good measure of your knowledge and skills right there.
I encourage the use of A sak bison whoever because they are GOOD not because japanese people use them. Yeah thanks for ruining this thread btw, too.