The Ongoing Tier Thread

I use N-groove mainly with C and A a distant second (I would be making it 4 people but then again I’m no Buktooth so…)

make that 5, i use N-groove

and everybody posting their “new” tier lists aren’t really saying anything new. maybe swap out one character here or there, but there really have not been any big changes. maybe bump C-sagat down a little bit, put A-blanka up higher, and that’s about it. cvs2 has been played to exhaustion, and for the most part, everything is known about this game that will be known. so buk’s list, even if it’s 8 months old, is still extremely accurate.

and S-athena (hell, S-anything) is not upper tier.

peace

Make that 6 because N groove is to fun.

ryu and akuma? explain.

and i use n groove. n-ryu, sak, bison-2.

Otaku has the dopest N-Akuma I’ve ever seen. His K-Rock is as good as the ‘theory K-Rock’ everyone used to preach about in 2k2. It’s like K-Geese with rage run mixups and cancellable command throws.

If A-Blanka is the reason why people don’t play C/A Iori, then why do people still play K-Groove? I hear Sakura and Bison are in this game…

(sarcasm, point is that Iori having one weakness obviously isn’t the reason why buk is the only person on earth who plays Iori)

Yo, Iori is really sick and I know a lot of people who play him. You have to go on the momentum offensive to make up for his slight defensive weaknesses that’s all. Once he gets close, no other character has a stronger counter hit game than he does. Against Iori, there’s like literally nothing you can do other than block and wait it out unless you want to get comboed (stay awake to punish command throw attempts but it’s hard).

The only gimmicky little trick I know to fight against it is that Rock’s 360 grab ducks low enough to cleanly counter Iori’s s.LP, but who does random command grab as their defense?

Against Blanka, you don’t even need to rely on some late airblock tactic. Run and build your meter to level 2 (or start C-Iori second or third) and then random ball isn’t even an issue anymore. Run your game normally as you would against any other guy. Or just avoid the tough matchup altogether an pick N-groove instead (free run, sweep whenever you block the ball) and Iori builds meter much faster when he’s attacking anyway.

I know this was answered before, but what’s the trick to doing run behind, command grab on a guy getting up? I keep trying, but I can’t do it.

I don’t know if this is the answer you’re looking for, but perhaps the run behind part is RC Command Grab? I don’t see it much probably becuase it’s so hard to do. I heard from popoblo that Kyo’s RC Lvl3 Punch super does that whole ‘crossup’ thingy, maybe RC Scum Gale does too?

I dunno about run behind…Buk has the roll crossup into throw setup listed in the FAQ.

Been messin with N-Iori/Rock/Sagat(2)…seems cool.

LZJ is right, C-haohmaru is top tier, you guys are missing out.

youre the smartest man alive.

I want to know where N-Benimaru stands. All Faqs I’ve read are about using him in A. I just some info from some of you. For me, I like how fast I can build meter with him which (if he dies) can be instantly used on Sagat.

as your roll is crossing up the opponent (or not) hcb, then f,b+p. the grab will come out no matter which side you end up on… since you often surprise even yourself.

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okay okay, he’s not top tier.

but i still think C-haoh is much better than your 2nd to last ranked A-haoh. he plays like vega, and has enough tools to make him at least better than 2nd to last.

I think this is pretty funny

i wonder why n iori is not top tier. his mix ups alone can take out 2 charcters cheapest counter hit charcter in cvs2

yea, and his bad matchups don’t mean anything once you get in. buk wrote that the match vs A-bison is 8-2 in bison’s favor, but i’ve seen him almost perfect competent bison players once he gets in and mixes it up.

in general, if you eat a DP or a jump straight up combo to punish a RC rekka, the mixups do so much damage that it equals out or does more.

He’s comparable to Ironman in MvC2. If you get em in an infinite, you’re gonna get a ton of damage in and you basically have a free guard-break opportunity on the next-character. But getting them in that infinite in the first place is gonna take a lot of work.

not really. stop comparing cvs2 to mvc2. he has a strong ground game, and a cheap ass counter hit game. grab is relatively easy to land once youre scared of CH. and he fights like all of the top tiers well.

i think k haohmaru is the best character in the game

and Josh Wong agrees

Why isn’t C/A/P/K Vega top? I heard a lot of buzz about him way back when, but then he seemed to melt into nothingness (kinda like Guile, but more so).