The Ongoing Tier Thread

werd.

nina is the shit.

God I’m so done with P-groove, it’s like a one trick pony that plateus reall quick. A- groove is fun and I win more,

K-Rock is scary to play against, Leezy seems to always land a sumper with Rocks, Rock paper scissor, low jumps. CHEAP!!

all i know is, according to otaku i’m WONDERFUL. what now hoes.

the new tier list goes:

  1. N-Iori
  2. A-Hibiki
  3. N-Morrigan

You played Ness? I can’t believe the cheesy garbage he can pull off with that character. Anyway, you probably did better against him than anything I can hope to pull off. Any tips for fighting against A-Hibiki? Be patient and use Sagat d.HP at the right time is all I have. Throw into CC though… :tdown: That running slash move as I get up as well. Man, I got hit five times in a row by that thing last time… not sure how to defend against it. Not even delayed getup was saving me, so I’m thinking mash on roll maybe.

I can’t do anything AT ALL against Honda with N-Morrigan. I’m trying my hardest, but I keep getting abused and cornered by “sooyah!! sooyah!!”. Scrubbiest thing ever. Worse part is, Honda actually keeps his charge for RC headbutt after the hands too so fireballs or dashing fierce are out of the question. Iori has it easy, but Morrigan’s roll is way too slow to fight against repeated RC scrub hands. I don’t play Morrigan often, but whenever I do, I seriously don’t think this fight in winnable. Any tactics or gameplan you can share? I’m giving up.

lol smooth is using a hibiki now also. Her zoning game and her resets are very good.

nah i’ve been saying hibiki’s the 3rd best a-groove character for a long time now. Nestor is cheap though. :tdown:

here’s a morrigan secret: she sucks. she loses to every good character that isn’t chun, or rolento like totally for free. I’m amazed my dumb parlor tricks are still working 4 years into the game.

against honda err… if you have the meter i wouldn’t hesitate to use a valkyrie turn or alpha counter to get out the corner. Try to establish full-screen range so he can’t headbutt through your jab fireballs, then counter the stuff he does to get around them. That sets up your knockdowns, and you can get wild from there.

err, when you’re in the corner most chars die pretty bad to honda. When you anticipate rc hands (by watching the honda player dash or whiff a move to buffer it) the most agressive counter is to jump forward. You gotta jump forward a little earlier than you think, or else you’ll get slapped out of the air. Morrigan’s jump sucks. If you anticipate right you get a whole cross up combo. Another option is to just throw an rc fireball when you anticipate the rc hands. Morrigan’s fireball is only -4 even at point blank range, so it’s a pretty safe panic move to do against honda (who doesn’t have any 3 frame moves besides the 360 afaik).

Munchin boots is norcal’s best kept secret… Gives people special powers. Like busting up cabinets in real life :frowning:

Naw… Time to learn Beni. :wink:

Buk: When are you gonna teach me that fabled Maki 6-hit combo that ends in a sweep and is not a CC? Also, when are you gonna stop muchin on boots?

k cammy damn i always though p cammy was alot better then k
:xeye:

I would think P cammy is better also. I mean look at the benifits of p and k.

…Insane damage increase. She doesn’t need run 'cause her walking speed is good enough.

P groove: Gets dash which is fast and crosses up and good for baiting parrys.

Parry > JD(JD is easier but parry is better.)

P and K both have low jump which helps her deal with low fireball characters 'cause her jump is slow as hell.

Eh I give it to P groove 'cause it’s scary ass hell to fight against considering all you have to do with her is hold forward and throw or option select s.fp and hit confirm and rip out a super. :xeye:
^I know that theres more to cammy than the above sentence but you get what I mean.

n-iori…the best character that no one plays.

No no you don’t understand. N-Iori is the best character, period.

I’d have to say that as far as P Groove goes, Cammy is the best P groove character.

That said, I still think K-Cammy is better than P-Cammy

Poor P Groove : /

P-groove FUCKING SUCKS. it’s a good thing you get a level 3 every 2 rounds though, that’s tight. P-groove ANYTHING is NOT top tier. P-cammy and P-kyo are better in K-groove.

that’s right, read it again, it’s not going to change.

thanks

You FUCKING SUCK read it again, it’s not going to change.

P Kyo isnt good for his super anyway, he is good for the amount of damage he can do off the parry even without the super.

P Kyo owns K Kyo on days that end in Y. P Cammy is also better then K Cammy.

P doesnt suck persay, its just a harder groove to win with.

fuck it, it’s so worthless to argue tiers on here. everybody wants to play theory fighter all day. i’m tired of wasting my time.

Except thats not theory fighter, nice job trying to justify yourself though.

ya there were 2 top 12 players at evo with P-groove. It’s very playable jus limited, the reason P-cammy isn’t the best in the game is cause you have to use P-groove to use her…if that makes sense

actually this makes a lot of sense.

P groove is better than K groove imo.

parrying is retarded. it completely changes how people play the game. i’m glad it takes so long to charge supers in P groove, otherwise, parrying would be way overpowered like in 3s. parrying is strong enough as it is right now.

i think P cammy is better overall, but K cammy is much better vs sagat.