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I think this game has a difficulty problem.

secret dungeon

[details=Spoiler] I’ve cleared the secret dungeon 3 times now. The first 2 times on hard mode. Each time it took me well over an hour, and most of my consumable items. The fights got really boring and repetitive as it takes quite awhile to whittle down 1.4M HP, like for Alexei, and he’ll just randomly kill off chars when he feels like it. So after those two times I figured the hell with it, this will take forever, let me try it on Normal.

Now it takes less than a half hour, with each boss jobbing for free. The bosses have maybe 450k max on their HP, which is considerably less than the Hard mode bosses. They also are stupid and get stunned almost all the time.

The problem is, normal mode is too easy, but hard mode takes waaaaay too long especially considering the number of times you need to clear it. I only have 5 fake Gald to this point, I think I read 15 is required.

I think there really needs to be a difficulty in between. My chars are all at about 80 btw, if that is important. I think when I first started it, everyone was just under 70, so at least the level gains seem fairly solid. I’m considering just clearing this on normal until I have enough fake gald to face “Traitor” and then maybe screw around with the 200 man melee, which I think is supposed to unlock after I fight him. Then I’ll just put exp up on the next playthrough and play it on unknown. Hopefully they balanced the game correctly with that, although who knows.

I’ve ditched Yuri because he just doesn’t do enough damage and doesn’t fit well into any strategies I’ve used. Also because with 3 girls around him, Raven has pretty much maxed out HP and MP, and has absurdly high stats.

I did finally get Last Fencer for Yuri though. Too bad I still don’t think he’s as good as Rita or Raven. Nor as unique as Judith and Karol. Hell, I bet even Repede is more fun since he’s so fast.

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It takes me about 20 minutes per route now. I tried almost every combination to find the shortest route where I found the most fake Gald. By the way, did anyone catch the Abyss reference in Nordopolica? This might be old, but I only saw it yesterday. =/

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You mean on the back of the billboard? Yeah, I saw that the first time I was there.

I’m going to put Vesperia on the backburner for now and start LO and NGII for a bit. The secret dungeon is simply too boring, and I don’t want to start my next playthrough until I finish it. It’ll probably take another 8 playthroughs to get enough fake gald even. I believe I have 4 playthroughs now, and 7 fake gald. It makes no sense to play this on Hard repeatedly as it’ll just take too long.

I’m not sure what else I have left. I’m sure I missed a few titles, including 2 Yuri costume titles, but I can’t get them this playthrough anyway, nor am I sure they’re worth getting. I think I have everyone else’s costumes except for Judith’s dragon race one, since I can’t beat Level 3 and don’t care enough to figure out how. You can’t skip scenes in this game either, so I’m not sure how much I’d enjoy another playthrough right now.

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I actually went back and played the secret dungeon maybe 2-3 more times. I put it on Normal and semi-auto, and just scrubbed it out with Yuri with the Abyssal weapon. Goes by pretty fast. I have 14 gald now.

Man this game is so ridiculously dumb on Normal. No wonder why you people think Yuri is good. Anybody would be good.

Looks like everyone’s pretty much done with the game as this thread is kinda dead.

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I probably won’t be done playing the game until I max out my level at 200. Either way, Yuri with Glory is more of a tank than anything else. I mean 6000 PATK and can’t be hit out of shit? How is that not good? Even on hard.

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Cooked a salad. Raised Agility by 2000. Thought it was a typo. What does Agility do in this game?

Also, who’s the eighth party member? Please no spoilers (other than a name).

Bah

[details=Spoiler]Fought Nan and Tison. I said, “let me guess these two MINIONS are good enough to fight your whole party.” And, of course, they were. Naturally they aren’t good enough to keep a handle on the giant monsters your group has to fight because the Hunting Blades are incompetent, and naturally Nan is somehow healing 7000+ damage with First Aid despite the fact that natural magic user Estelle’s only heals several hundred. Fuck.

It seems as if, when it comes to human-vs.-human fights, all Namco knows how to do is pump up enemy HP and damage, and give them Mystics that ALWAYS HIT NO MATTER WHAT (fuck Tison). Even though, in the very same game, there are some very creative boss fights, like that cave bat that splits into a whole bunch (let me guess; the two LITTLE GIRLS that bat slapped away are a match for your whole party) or that desert creature that changes from night to day. How cool would it have been if Nan and Tison had comparable HP to you, and the challenge was stopping Nan from healing while Tison ran around ripping into you?

Bah. If I eventually ever do design games I’ll do shit like that.

Anywho, still liking the characters, still think the overall story is kinda bleh, still having fun (for the most part). Hard mode isn’t easy, but isn’t stupid hard either, unless enemies employ cheap, unavoidable tricks (Tison’s Mystic).

Was kinda sad when Belius died. I liked Belius. Reminded me of a giant Renamon. That fight was disturbing actually; hearing her say GOOD and STRIKE NOW during the fight I was like OMG NO BELIUS DON’T DIE. The Hunting Blades piss me off. Nan actually makes me angrier than Anise (yeah, my opinion on Anise has changed from “I can kinda-sorta understand” to “fuck that little cow”) and I hope Yuri kills that whole guild. Yuri is awesome. He easily steals the whole show.

I do wish there was a “play the story from Flynn’s side” mode though.[/details]

My cousin pointed out that she wishes Judith had Beast. She’s having trouble scoring hits on fast enemies who chase Yuri. Speaking of which, 99% of mobs have a hard on for Yuri, so some enemies and bosses, like the last one I mentioned in the spoiler tag above, just chase me around while my brother and cousin attack. In fact, it’s actually better sometimes if I don’t attack at all or just use Azure Edge/Storm while hanging back, to prevent some bigger enemies’ giant hit box swings from hitting my buddies.

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I thought Agility made your footspeed faster?

…and there are only 7 playable characters. Yeah.

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I didn’t notice any difference in running speed though I’ll check again.

And nobody fills that eighth slot? Damn. :sad:

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You’d like Enchanted Arms. Most fights in that game aren’t designed to go over 3 rounds, except 1 or 2. You don’t even really need a healer.

Also everyone tends to target 1p. When I was using Estelle, they’d all come after me no matter what.

I think hard mode is way harder. On normal I don’t even take hits, and finish boss fights within 2 minutes top. On hard, on the same boss fight, I’ll use 15 life bottles and barely win with 2 chars left standing after a half hour dogfight. I suggest not doing the secret dungeon on hard. Unless you’re uber levelled and have really powered up Fell Arms maybe. My Yuri barely cracks 3k, I can’t believe someone actually killed another 3k worth of monsters. Man that’s a lot.

I can’t wait to try unknown, because I am psychotic. But I have LO in my xbox right now, it’s time to move on really.

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i find it hilarious that the hardest boss fight i’ve had up until the last boss in the game was Gattuso… WTF
most the giganto monsters didnt even give me half the trouble.

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Gattuso was probably the hardest boss in the game. I thought Brucis was second hardest, especially since I fought him at level 40.

On my replay, it’s going to be interesting to see how that works, especially if I’m playing by myself. Maybe my dumb siblings just sucked.

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I’m playing Unknown right now…Yuri is still broken.

He’s just the shit. Especially if I were to break out my 6800 ATP Blazor Edge Abyssion. :rofl: And he owns the holy motherfuck outta Raven, all Raven has is range and a better healing move over Yuri. Yuri on the other hand has retarded strength, speed, uber combo ability and Glory to rape everything that moves.

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i feel like such a moron

final boss

Spoiler

here i am feeling all good about myself getting the fell arms only to realize that after reading up on the fight, i just made this shit like 10 times fucking harder than it had to be. as a result his 3rd form pretty much fucks team’s ass and wipes his dick on their collective faces. can i like… unget the fell arms? D:

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Why Yuri owns the fuck out of everyone else:

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…I rest my case.

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Raven has 6800 weapons too, that’s just stupid.

Do you seriously think Yuri would beat Raven if you could have them fight each other?

And I’m certain you’ve overleveled and cheated on stats yet again. 6800 weapon. Thats 1 death for every kill. So you sat around and killed 6800 enemies, and are sitting here feeling smug about it. Do you play WoW and beat up on level 1 characters with a level 70 epiced out char and cheer yourself on about that too?

Mine is barely over 3000. I played on Hard from the get go, no EXP mods, no items carried over, nothing. I didn’t have Glory because I didn’t sit there farming for items and reading faqs on where to find shit so I could build a hacked weapon for myself. I only got it after already beating the game, then reading that I could get it off the final boss.

I don’t care what vids you link to, that also have all the other chars set to stand around, have boosted stats and levels, and hacked weapons. From a pure strategic standpoint, Raven gives you the best chance to win without stupid amounts of preparation. And if you’re going to prepare that much just so you could do well on a meaningless video game, you should go back to playing WoW, so you can atleast brag to other nerds.

Me? I played competitive fighting games, where there’s no theory fighter bullshit and you didn’t link to vids to “brag” on the internet. We didn’t have “6800” weapon, you’d just fight a guy straight up and you either won or you lost.

And now I fight for real, I don’t get to bring in headband of infinity when I fight either. So you can keep talking like you’re doing now and making a fool of yourself, or you can let this shit go and at least salvage what little dignity you have, until you can “break out your 6800” again and feel like a big man in a video game against the computer.

Bitch.

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So to recap…you’re mad because I’m right. Okay. :rofl:

And yes, Yuri would fuck Raven up with Glory. Or Level 4 OL, which does the same thing.

P.S. I’m not a fan of WoW (or any other MMO, actually). Never played it a day in my life.

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I looked at your profile to see, and it says you’re 24. A 24 year old anime nerd virgin, that’s sad.

You sound just like the WoW nerds too, and the best part is they don’t realize what losers they are either. I showed this to a few other people, and everyone I showed it to is cracking up at you.

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Okay. Good for you.

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(EDIT - Never played Enchanted Arms; thought of Thousand Arms for some silly reason :rofl:)

On the topic of healing, I think Vesperia giving most characters ways to heal themselves is a good step in the right direction. Having dedicated healers in RPGs really bottlenecks you into ensuring that a healer is always included in the party. In my perfect world everybody would have a Center or a (good) Guardian Field/Nice Aid Smash/Love Shot, or everyone would have lots of hit points so that boss fights would be true battles of attrition instead of just testing a player’s ability to manage healing.

To be fair, Gattuso was hard because he had bullshit moves. It’s one thing to be hard in such a way that a player can work around and defeat. It’s another thing entirely to be hard because you have a NEAR-INSTANT MULTIHITTING ROAR THAT CAN’T BE BLOCKED AND CATCHES RUNNERS. :mad:

Fuck Tales for those sorts of attacks.

EDIT - That scorpion dude who heals himself for like a quarter of his health was also stupid hard until we cornered him and didn’t let him out.

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You really typed all that, “I walk uphill both ways” shit over which character is better, and then call him a nerd.

I love it