The Official Sonic the Hedgehog thread

I had a dream about Sonic last night. Yeah, it was really random for me too. It was supposed to be the last level of Sonic 1, but it was a totally different beast. It took mechanics from all the past 2D and 2.5D Sonic games. It was actually cool. Sonic was about to go chase down Robotnik in some sort of hi tek desert base outside. So you could see the endless sea of sand and hills in the background. The base was really for a launch pad so he could escape (like in Sonic 2 when he escapes his Air Fortress). This area had TONS of secrets though and played like the old school Sonics. You could have easily left this area and went after Robotnik but there were rings to be had galore, even one final special stage ring from Sonic3K. So I was hitting up a lot of the hidden areas and one in particular took me into a cave that started out 2D and ended up in 3D for an almost isometric chase sequence. It was like taking the stage from going left to right to upper left to lower right. It didn’t work out so well. Or I should say that the platforms I could get on top of were too tiny to see or even stand on really. Evil brain of mine.

After that I end up on a boat where I can jump on boxes in 3D for more goodies. Sonic could also do his short dash in mid-air from Sonic Advance by tapping C (was playing on genesis lol) + < or >.

Overall this vision of a Sonic that could be worked out well. It still had the speed and 3D aspect of today’s 2D Sonics but had all the hidden secrets and platforming bits from the 16bit era.

XD

Okay, that is awesome that they actually poked fun at Eggman never getting to be the big bad anymore.

I wasn’t aware they had Wifi trading in the game.

Also…

Shadow

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The first fight is easy despite the massive HP. You fight him again and he’s a bit tougher, and has an instant death move that can only be avoided by tapping a sequence correctly. Otherwise, he’s a rare example of a character who’s MUCH better on your side then as an enemy.

Am I crazy, or is Tails’ Medi-bot pretty incredible? 60 HP + 6 PP per turn for 3 turns, at a cost of 5 PP. Pretty nice IMO.

i wish that they would use the archie comics as inspiration for sonic games.

then they wouldn’t be completely terrible. sonic 2006 killed it for me.

this is coming from someone who was captivated by the series for 12 years.

how is unleashed? is it at least fun? when i heard about the werehog gimmick i was like “here we go again, another ‘could have been good but they did something dumb’ sonic game”

They haven’t released a demo yet so we can only speculate.

So whats the word on Chronicles, is it worth picking up?

Medibot is quite nice. I thought Cream was going to be the mandatory healer but Medibot + a fuckton of items from enemies means Tails and do the role just fine. Only thing that sucks is missing the input means ZERO effect.

Sonic’s Axe Kick is pretty damn awesome too. 3 Axe Kicks and only the hardiest of targets are still going.

EDIT - Disregard. I misread your post. Yeah, believe it or not the Archie canon would be better than Sonic Team’s pathetic excuse for narrative. And the Archie canon isn’t even all that good.

…FUCK! They didn’t. oh well guess I’m keepin my level 1’s unless I stumble across someone at work.

Also…what do you think of they small little twist they did for the Mauraders? I was actually expecting them to be some type of bunny based off what their design looked like…And do you think Sega of Japan will even consider this canon?

I’m not done the game so I’m not sure if I’ve seen the plot twist yet or not. Also, Sonic canon isn’t something that anybody should be putting too much stock in.

It’s not really so much a plot twist I suppose just a…Shade shows who she is…and I wasn’t expecting her to be that race.

Edit:

If you’re a Sonic fan…the game is probably worth it. Like it’s been stated before the game is good…but it ain’t great so don’t expect anything completely ground breaking out of it or you’ll be disappointed.

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Eggman’s animations are goofy as shit…why the hell does it look like he’s dancing for his idle fight animation? lol

I’ve been running primarily with Sonic, Tails, Shadow, and OMEGA. However, I’ve been kinda missing Big’s ability to tank ever since i swapped him out, and have been thinking about bringing him back in. I still think that Medi-bot makes Tails the most valuable team member, though I see uses for everyone really.

Who have you all been using mostly?

I usually make it a point to at least try out a character as soon as I get them to see what they’re capable of…with the exception of Cream the Rabbit…>.>…<.<…yyyyyeeeeeahhhh. I haven’t put her out there on the team yet so I don’t know what she can do. Team currently consists of Sonic, Shadow, Knux, and Eggman. Even though I’m enjoying Knux’s ability to just completely ignore defenses I think I’m going to have to swap him out to put Tails since I’m about to head into Metropolis…that way Eggman and Tails can just fuck up the robots.

Tails should always be around IMO. Medibots are insane. Cream is the most purely support character in the game. If you do use her, you’ll have to load her up with PP-regen stuff because that is all she is good for.

When you enter Metropolis,
Metropolis Zone

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they have your team split up, one half led by Sonic and the other by Robotnik.

Oh, I’ve also been trying out Sonic/Tails/Big/OMEGA now, and I’m thinking this works pretty good. Everybody has their uses in this game though, I don’t think that any characters seems useless. Except maybe Rouge, I was really unimpressed with her TBH.

I’m really starting to feel that Sonic himself is a bit underpowered. His default damage seems low, probably to compensate for his 3 actions per round. Axe Kick isn’t too bad, but compared to other skills with 4PP cost, it seems a bit underwhelming. I usually get more damage off things like Chaos Spear or Uppercut, which cost the same PP. His AOE does Wind damage, which seems to be the worst damage type as almost every enemy is resistant to it. He does have a lot of team-up attacks though, and since he is the team leader I guess that counts for something.

All around, OMEGA seems like the best offensive character in the game. His default attack does AOE damage, as do most of his specials. Omega Beam is easily the highest damage outputting skill in the game, and has a very easy input sequence. He also has quite a lot of HP and takes hits pretty well.

I also think you should have either Tails or Cream in your party at all times. They are incredible POW batteries, and heal too. Cream is better at healing, but I prefer Tails because he provides more function than just heals and POW battery, and gets two actions per turn.

Robotnik isn’t much of a team player, but his Bombardment AOE does quite a lot of damage. All of his stats seem to be above average too. Probably to compensate for his lack of special skills or team-ups.

Shadow’s a pretty well-balanced character, and does pretty good IMO. He does suck down a lot of PP to use to his fullest, but I guess that’s what happens when you get 3 actions per round. Still, he’s got some good team-up attacks, AOEs, an armor pierce, and even a chance at instant-KO.

Big is a pretty good tank. Taunt is particularly useful against bosses, and his self-heal helps to support that. He has some decent damage attacks too. If you run Big and OMEGA together like me, OMEGA has a high damage team-up with Big and can use his Phasing Field to further support Big at taking hits.

Knuckles is a pretty good beatdown character too. Carries a couple of armor pierces and has a lot of good team-up attacks. His AOE doesn’t seem to do much damage, but it does Stun so it’s still pretty good IMO.

Amy Rose really surprised me. She’s got the highest damage default attack in the game. A lot of her offensive skills also carry a chance to inflict status ailments, and she has a team buff too. Not too bad overall.

Rouge is terrible. Honestly, I see no use for her at all, unless maybe it turns out there are some really good items you can steal off enemies or bosses with Theft. Her primary attack skill deals Wind damage, which most enemies seem resistant to. Her AOE does shitty damage, even with the fact that it armor pierces. All of her other skills suck too IMO.

Shade

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Shade is a bit disappointing to me too. Most of her solo skills are kinda meh. Her Echidna Rush team-up with Knuckles isn’t too bad though. But then Knuckles becomes kinda redundant for map exploration, and you only have one support slot left.

I still think that personally, when you aren’t forced to use particular characters, Tails/Big/OMEGA seems like the best setup. I’m hoping maybe eventually you can take Sonic out of the leader spot.

^ Shadow does seem better than Sonic. Same amount of actions and better damage potential.

Damn I need to catch up with you guys, I JUST got knuckles lol.

wow you’re really starting to dig into the game now you’re pretty far ahead I have to find time to play the game here and there when i can plus I just picked up Bleach: Dark Souls…I probably should focus on this title first and get it done. I mostly use Sonic for Axe kick and double team damage since he seems to have pretty big output when it comes to those. Especially Sonic and Shadow’s double team where I’m currently at in Metropolis nearly wipes out the enemies in one go.

And Fuck that self destructing robot sequence lol. I still haven’t got used to it and it’s owning the hell out of me.

Sega showed a Black Knight trailer…I didn’t mind how it looked from what I saw but I wanna get another glimpse at it. Had Crush 40 playing a new song in it.

Edit:
Ign…you fucked up lol look they posted up screens that are clearly Black Knight under Unleashed

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/142/14242720/imgs_1.html

they fixed it…lol

Black Knight screens:
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/142/14268379/imgs_1.html

Unleashed Wii screens:
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/142/14242720/imgs_1.html

Also there’s a stream that I’m watching where you may be able to catch a both unleashed and Black Knight trailers which I’ll post up in a moment

Edit:

SEGA TGS trailers stream:
http://tgs.sega.jp/2008/asx/tgs2008.asx

has other stuff like yakuza 3 as well looks pretty tight.

Edit 2:
Black Knight direct feed:

Unleashed 360/ps3 screens:
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/142/14242718/imgs_1.html

Sonic Unleashed Ring Race gameplay (Cam):

Sonic Unleashed Seaside Parlor Gameplay: