Well Gen wasn’t exactly the most popular character in SF4. Your points may be valid but unfortunately, the majority don’t miss him.
Tekken characters should have the mindgames as well. Maybe their bigger movelist will allow far more option selects and guessing games for the SF side.
The hell happened here, its like day -17 or something and people are saying throws and fireballs don’t matter? o_O I guess Tekken characters needing ways around said fireballs are also useless too? get serious.
Throw’s don’t suck in this game, the throw ranges are not SFIV god like but they are not shitty either, the damage is good and for some characters get great positioning to bait out a tech roll. specking of tech rolls you can throw people right out of them…who would have guessed >_>’
Someone mention things like Cr.MK to fireball will be pale in comparison to say Cr.MK to Chain or Generic Launcher? I can’t agree with that, Sure you get more damage with a Generic launcher or a chain but they too have their draw backs that never seem to be mentioned. If you chain from Cr.MK your not only committed to the chain(they are punishable) you got to EX if you want to do a special move afterwards. Generic launcher on the other hand, while good to get your partner in, it may not always be the wisest decision. Sometimes if not alot of the time the Cr.MK to fireball is a better choice still as it is still a OS and it’s still a good move.
As far as Anti-Airing goes, everything is situational, sometimes its best to do a standing/crouching normal to AA, sometimes its best to use a special with invulnerability, or its best to meet them half way and go air to air with them. Every single example i used just now you could potentially get a full combo off(Tag cancel yo), and realistically speaking, that’s scary but also is the dynamic of this game, to take that risk because jump in combo’s/mix ups do alot of damage…and are well worth it if it can get the KO.
About Tekken characters and their own Meta game, its too early to say for sure but I firmly believe they haven’t had a strong showing is because the lack of time people had with the game, Fudo’s King and ChrisG’s Hwro/Xiao are good, and if they stick with them I know they’ll be really beast later on in this games life cycle. Tekken Character have strings and multiple trees from said strings so it makes your opponent guess…I shouldn’t have to explain that, It should be a given.
Jin in particular has Tools to be a great character, his projectile is like Dorm’s Dark hole and is going to be used as such, he also has high/low strings and save blockstrings, a fast overhead and other great tools…It boggles my mind to see people worried so much about the little things.
Man I swear this therook guy must work for capcom.
Everyone who supports the game WORKS for CAPCOM
I’ll believe it if he has a swag hype shirt like I do.
Doesn’t stop his points from being valid, not to mention he has played the game several times.
you mean the purple pandroa one with Ryu and Kazuya, Yup! I actually like that shirt.
Those are cool too (because purple is my fav color), but I’m talking about…THIS ONE 
http://www.customink.com/designs/proofs/szd0-000k-gz62/front.jpg
http://www.customink.com/designs/proofs/szd0-000k-gz62/back.jpg
damn the image is broken D:
should be up now.
ahh That shirt is Dope!!! I want one now, but I wanted to get that Trapcom shirt they had at Evo last year but I didn’t know where they were giving them out at.
I would not want to be Bison’s dentist. O_O
I bet he and Deejay go to the same guy.
I thought I was the only one who wanted Gen in the game. Gen + Heihachi, team deadly old kung fu bastard.
Be warned that my post will make a lot of people here angry but it needs to be said.
He’s right, if you understand what he’s trying to express. This may sound harsh but you don’t really care about the mechanics, hence discussing about them with you is pointless.
Your reasons for playing this game are, in order of importance:
- Brand name and an expected big support in the western scenes.
- A bunch of other stuff.
- Mechanics come last.
It’s not like you are actively looking for the best possible fighting game out there to play. You will play this game because it’s Street Fighter X Tekken, and it will be ok for you as long as its mechanics are merely passable.
Let’s say tomorrow you discover the mechanics between this game and Aquapazza were somehow magically switched.
Aquapazza will play like SFXT, and SFXT will play like Aquapazza. Will you start giving a shit about Aquapazza and stop caring about SFXT just because of the mechanics? No, because you never really cared enough about mechanics in the 1st place.
This relates to the link I gave. You have your real reasons, and on top of them you invent new, “better looking ones” ones to justify them, maybe even to yourself.
I wanted Gen and Wang for old kung fu team (and I don’t even play either of them in their respective games)
And Makoto + Asuka for team “daddy issues”
This thing horribly wrong with your example is, alot of people do care about the gameplay mechanics of SFxTK…alittle too much. thats actually the problem, its not the fact that people don’t care but the fact that everyone thinks because its new, different, similar to something else…it won’t work or any other knee jerk reaction.
If tomorrow SFxTK played like 3rd Strike, i would hate it…Not because its 3rd strike( love 3rd Strike) its because I like SFxTK…I liked what i played at the fightclub, i like what i’ve seen evolved over the spand of many months. I got no reason to lie, to you, to myself, or anyone else? for what? to defend SFxTK? i could honestly careless if anyone else got the game, I getting it because I like it…thats it.
For the most part i post here because alot of people are mis-informed about the game and alot of the time that can cause negative reactions, some in which make no sense…but at times I can be wrong too, it wouldn’t be the first time, nor will it be the last, however to me, the more people who know things like the Gem system isnt some OP, Useless, gamebreaking mechanic, or saying that Pandora isn’t the root to all evil, the better off it is for the community because shit like that spreads quickly and last thing this game needs is false information going around…
Damn people are trying really hard to kill this game before it even comes out.
I’m at least gonna give it a chance. I’m amazed how positive the hype has been for skull girls and how negative the talk has been for SFxT.
Let me preface this, I’m hyped as fuck for skull girls, I am in no way implying its a bad game.
SFxT has some very deep mechanics and interesting things going on yet everyone wants to bash the fuck out of it. Yet skull girls which has simplified motions and supers ( it even has a mechanic that makes it so you can’t accidentally jump when you try a 360 for a SPD ) and everyone is stoked as shit for it, if anything its simplifying fighting games. Yet people are bitching about mechanics in SFxT.
I only bring this up because I see some of the same people in here bashing SFxT that are praising skull girls in the other thread, seems kind of asinine to me.
For SFxT the only thing keeping my interest levels (until I get a hands on) is 2 on 2 pairs looks amazing and the slim possibility of Lei/Alisa/Cody/Guy/Makoto being hidden away in the game somewhere.
There will always be something to moan about. You get people who moan about SFIV’s floaty jumps and how easy it is to anti-air. Then there’s other who moan about how easy it is to jump in this game. Yeah lets just forget the entire history of fighting games and focus on one or two aspects I don’t like. GGs.
I still don’t like defense gems though. But I’ll wait to see how it plays out. If this game has stuff like sac throws (which I doubt), maybe defense gems can be used to change the risk/reward ratio in favour of the person going for it.
But I hate sac throws too hehe.