What idiot calls with just 2 pair? I’m no pro, but I ussually note that 2 pair is almost always overplayed by inexperienced players. 2 pair is good, but it can be beat… many ways.
Hey viscant, do you ever play at any of the local san diego casinos? I go to viejas/barona/sycuan like 4 times a week and dominate the 4-8 8-16 games. Once a month ill play 15-30 on saturday at viejas but my bankroll is not large enough yet for that game.
And yeah, online is cool for the bonuses and smaller rake but its a pain in the ass to deposit and withdraw your money and i really dont like my money being tied up for a week. Casinos are a much more fun and exciting atmosphere and whatever you win can be taken home right away. Plus there is always a chance for a bad beat jackpot/
Hot damn, those were the tells that really stood for me too. The suited flop tip became really useful.
Anyone here gonna try to get in the WSOP? :karate:
Never post in this thread again. Seriously dont. If you think Top 2 pair is a shitty hand then you and me should sit down and play each other for $1000.
Top two is very strong but your bad beat story shows you’re not very good.
i had a fun hand today.
raise preflop with kk, 2 callers
flop 9/4/2 bet 1 calls 1 passes
turn 9 bet he calls
river k bet he raises and we reraise till i’ve stuck 30 bucks in there in a small 1/2 limit game
or course he has to turn over 99, yay
Explain how you force someone out of a hand in LIMIT poker you fucking moron.
There are numerous ways to force opponents out of hands in limit poker. :xeye:
If you flop two pair and are first to act with 1-3 people behind you it is almost always better to check, hope someone bets and then reraise to narrow the field and you could probably get the gutshot/bottom pair/backdoor draw hand out of the pot. If it gets checked around, not only do you know that your hand is probably good, it gives you and chance on the turn to bet for the higher amount and make people make a worse call by having to call a big bet for their weak draws. If that person still calls you with a gutshot and hits his miracle card just be happy that he made a poor play that will cost him and ultimately make you more money is the long run(if you play with that person for awhile).
SvN damn ur pretty brave to sit on those kinds of tables. ur prolly rich as hell =|
i’ve been to a casino only ONCE. it was at Sycuan and i got punked by people who had loads of chips. that was my 3rd month of playing poker since i started. now it’s the 5th month and i’m trying to catch on.
how do u control ur bankroll with those kinds of blinds???
that book has some pretty funny looking tells.
“Exhibit A: Man in cowboy hat picks nose, right nostril with left handfinger. 90% chance holding premium hand.”
andy what books you got? im willing to swap. the harrington on holdem series has gotta be the best tourney reading ive come across so far.
i’m actually willing to bet that tape would beat you in a headsup game 
you up for it mr.gambler? :tup:
I think so too.
Ya lets bet on things that will never happen.
Why won’t it ever happen? I hear there’s this new thing called internet poker…
Im playing at tiger gaming right now Username HeyMrJack
I’m not gonna waste time looking for some jackass on srk. Now if you’d mind your own business, I’ll kindly thank you and tell you to shut the fuck up. And tape still hasnt asnwered my question on how you force out people in LIMIT poker,
I’ve told you, and someone else has said it, sometimes you have to check and hope someone raises bhined you so you can reraise to limit the field. Sneaky and subtle plays along with luck are required to win the pot many times.
You’re right that in limit poker it’s hard to force someone out of the pot, especially a moron, but you have to try to make it as incorrect as possible for him to do so. In this situation, it’s highly likely he should have called even if he KNEW you had KQ just because of the pot odds. You ridiculing him for a call that wasn’t even too bad shows you’re not a very good player.
How is it the right call when he had 4 outs in thedeck assuming no one folded a 10 ??
There is no justification for stupidity.
I’ve been playing a ton of PLO lately, but even after reading Berman’s section on SS2, I haven’t been gettin good results. I know there’s no absolutes, but I find myself hitting a ton of two pair and forced with awful decisions. When the board has 2 suits or 2 high connectors, should I be hoping to hit the boat or just fold? I’ll give a couple hands later.
Also, what other hands should be raised besides A-A-any pocket pair double suited?
You have to tell me exactly how many people are in the pot, suits, raises preflop and flop, turn raises and reraises before you can say whether he’s right or wrong.
Like I’ve said, he might have thought hitting an Ace would be good, which means he assumed he had 8 outs. That’s not a very bad assumption if there was no preflop reraises, as is norm for AK AQ. If theres no crazy action on the flop theres no reason to assume you have two pair, and trying to make a read online is pretty much impossible. Action dictates your hand.
Berman’s section in SS2 is actually quite good, I’m surprised you’re not a winning player if you followed exactly what he said. PLO is really a by-the-book game. As in, almost impossible to read your opponent, especially online, and action dictating how strong their bet is. Two pair is not very strong, and heads up it might hold up. In general if there’s double suited or straight cards out there, two pair is the underdog in the hand. He could have a nice straight/flush draw along with a high pocket pair in his hand, giving him enormous amounts of odds.
In regular PLO, raises are generally made with AAXX, KKXX, hands like 5678 double suited, 10JQK, etc. The strongest hands are those that easily make the nuts. Like J10, KQ, where if you make your hand, it is almost always the nuts. Don’t overvalue sets, don’t overvalue non-nut straights. You can look up the 21 point system to decide which hands to play/raise with. Sklansky I believe developed a system where you add and substract points based on suits, straight gappers, pocket pairs, etc in your hand and only hands that meet certain point criteria are raisable/playable.