what are you guys doing for hgss? are you transferring some pokes from d/p/pl or starting anew?
Don’t worry about, he’s a fucking idiot.
Foretress is also a really good wall and helps you get rocks up, the only thing with him is that he only has a single resistance to psychic and a really bad special defense and not great HP. Which means you can’t switch in on a predicted psychic attack and expect to live through another neutral special attack afterwords(god forbid a super effective one). With the way your team is set up right now an alakazam would probably be able to walk all over your team, one shotting machamp and gengar, doing 80-90% to mismagius and kingdra, foretress will b eok, but it may not be able to kill alakazam back, and still gets almost one shotted by focus blast, and dies horribly to hidden power fire. With bronzong focus blast is a 2 shot, MAYBE(AND it has to hit twice in a row), psychic will do nothing, hidden power fire is maybe a 2 shot if they get really lucky, and when rain is up it will do nothing, and bronzong will MURDER alakazam with gyro ball. Don’t get me wrong though, foretress is an awesome pokemon and has various uses, I highly recommend choosing what you like, I would not on the other hand, choose both foretress and bronzong, they are both wally steel types who die to fire and set up stuff.
Also for mismagius, what are you going to do with it? there are a lot of ways to run mismagius that make it just a poor mans gengar, which you are already running. If you run bulky machamp, and foretress/bronzong you’ll probably be alright on the defensive side, so running a bulky mismagius may not be worth your while either.
If I were to run with your team I’d probably go with:
Bulky machamp
some sort of gengar(gengar is super flexible and good at many things, maybe specs’d, probably NOT the led version though)
some sort of dragon dancing life orbed kingdra(though the bulky leftovers kingdra is interesting too)
Lead bronzong with rain dance
Mamoswine, priority attacks are awesome and super useful, and its ice shard is TERRIFYING, it’s earthquake is also one of the strongest in the game
the last slot is pretty up in the air, you could go with another wall, you could go with some sort of supporter/annoyer, you could go with another attacker. You could give the slot to mismagius, but again, look out for redundancies.
Alright, you’ve got an awesome special attack, an awesome physical attacker/mixed, and an awesome physical wall. I’m going to recommend snorlax, he can eat ghost moves meant for gengar/slowbro, and be your special wall/physical set up to be the counterpart to slowbro. Blissey may be a better choice, but snorlax is way cooler. the last 2 slots really depend on how you’re running that honchkrow, if you are running it as a mixed, focus sashed lead you’ll need a fast dedicated physical attacker. if you want to run honchkrow as your main physical attacker your going to have to counteract his weaknesses, mainly that he’s slow, so I’d either run a rocks lead, so you guarantee his sucker punch one shots as much stuff as possible, or 1 or 2 bulky pokemon with paralyze, or something that can pass speed to him. Once you guarentee that your honchkrow is hitting things they’ll die pretty fast(2 good stabs and maassive base attack will do that). I’ll recommend some more stuff if you get your team a little more hammered out(IE what are you doing with honchkrow/gengar, because they can both server diverse rolls), and feel free to list other pokemon you like.
I play in a weird league environment where everyone gets 10 pokemon, and we play 4 matches and are able to switch up our team of 6 every round, additionally it’s a draft format so each pokemon is only on one person team, so I see a LOT of obscure pokemon and interesting team synergies. Lots of UU and even NU pokemon can work just fine in the OU environment, heck I’ve got a venonat setup that can routinely cripple 1-3 pokemon AND get agility baton passes off. So don’t be afraid to list pokemon that are subpar.
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how about a slaking in my last slot?
also by bulky machamp, you mean one with bulk up?
slacking is an interesting pokemon, he’s unbelievably brutal, but he is a slave to prediction. Basically nothing can switch in on him safely, his return is one of the most terrifying attacks in the game, and between fire punch, earthquake, and shadow claw he can annihilate common switch ins. The big problem though, is obviously his ability. You are basically going to be throwing out one attack and then switching 90% of the time, which means stealth rocks can be a big deal. Additionally, while MOST things are not going to enjoy a switch in, tanks with heal moves will probably be fine. Say skarmory switches in, and you predict it, and hit him with a fire punch. That’s like 50-60% life, but then you do nothing, or switch, and it roosts and heals most of it’s life. If you stayed in he can then switch to say heatran, which will absorb fire, or vaporeon, or any of the myriad of things that can absorb fire attacks. So if you use slaking you need a LOT of prediction. Protect is also his mortal enemy, they can either protect and see what you are doing if you are banded(or even just get a read on your prediction ability if it’s not banded), or protect, then do a move, then protect again, then do a move.
Overall I’d say you could throw slaking in that last spot, if you’re playing on shoddy he may do really well for you right off the bat(people may be like, what the hell does slaking do?!?), but if you run into people who have dealt with slaking before you’ll probably have a tough time with him till you get your sea legs, and start predicting well.
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The only two Pokemon games I had were both Yellow and Sapphire. After that I got bored of them.
ya these are very true points
usually id just giga impact everything, but i never played really competitive players
just some friends who somewhat knew what they were doing
id always ev train at least, so not much could survive a well place GI
ive used a weezing before
maybe a weezing with thunder, toxic, explosion and flamethrower, ev’d to 252 spa, 252 hp?
A stupid MVC2 player? Stunner.
weezing is a really really nice physical wall/hazer, the only real problem there is that half your team will be weak to psychic, with only one resist(granted it’s a hell of a resist).
By bulky machamp I mean one that invests some EV’s into defense and hp, the most common version is max HP max attack, no guard, with rest, sleep talk, dynamic punch, and some 3rd attack.
I’m heading out for a while, but feel free to spitball some ideas in here I’ll check back in later and see what I can do to help.
Also check out this, http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/team_builder/ you put in your pokemon and it’ll list out your weaknesses and resists. That way you can watch out for building a terrible weakness into your time, IE ‘huh half my pokemon lose 25% or more life for switching into rocks’ or ‘huh, i have several fire weaknesses and no resists, and fire is the best special attacking type in the game, maybe I need something with flash fires’.
oh that is a wicked site
thanks a bunch, now ill def find a better 6th
I know, right?
Anyways, I was wondering on how well a team like this could run.
Heatran (EarthPow/FireBlast/Explosion/StealthRock, Timid, 252 Spd/252 SpA/4 HP, Shuca)
Gliscor (EQ/KnockOff/Roost/StoneEdge, Impish, 252 HP/216 Spd/40 Def, Leftovers)
Empoleon (GKnot/Roar/StealthRock/Surf, Calm, 252 HP/160 Def/4 Spd/92 SpD, Leftovers) I feel like I could replace Stealth Rock here, but I’m not sure with what.
Salamence (DDance/EQ/FireBlast/Outrage, Naive, 232 Atk/252 Spd/24 SpA, Life Orb) I’m kind of iffy on if I should use it, and if something better could replace it.
Azelf (Explosion/FThrower/GKnot/Psychic, Naive, 40 Atk/216 Spd/252 SpA, Life Orb)
Machamp (DPunch/Payback/Rest/SleepTalk, Adamant, 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spd, Leftovers)
I do have a feeling that I should replace one Poke with a tank or something.
gliscor and empoleon make excellent tanks. Stealth rocks on heatran is a bit odd, especially when you have gliscor, empoleon AND azelf, which are all excellent stealth rock users. As far as pokemon go that looks like an excellent OU team, gliscor and empoleon are a tremendous walling combo, the only thing that really gets through it is fire and grass, of course heatran is immune to one and quad resists the other, so you’re good there. Move sets you might want to spend some time with though(mainly trying to move stealth rocks off heatran and onto something else, and using something other than shuca, since half your team is incredibly dangerous earth immune switch ins).
alright i think ive settled on aerodactyl… now to find movesets… smogon isnt working now =(
or else another fast poke
i was thinking of getting another water based one to compliment rain dance though
aerodactly can be pretty easy. You can run him as a lead with earthquake, stone edge, taunt, stealth rocks, and a focus sash. You can run him with a choice band or a life orb, and 4 attacks. Those are the two sets that I reccomend. Not sure about EV’s for the lead one, but the banded/life orbed one just max speed max attack. Nature is either adamant or jolly.
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I’m transferring my pokemon over from Platinum (which I transferred from Pearl lol).
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Oh man, how I enjoy boobs. Every time before we go to sleep, I make sure my g/f knows how much I like them by playing with them for a long time. They’re so fun!
hmmm…
your team is somewhat slow so you should consider paralysis support from the likes of blissey or togekiss or toxic spikes for the stally feel your team has. you should replace stealth rock from empoleon and heatran and just give it to gliscor. gliscor has a giant 125 base defense so it will have a lot of time to set up rocks. empoleon is best used as an attacker and should not be trying to set up rocks because it forces a lot of switches due to its typing. don’t really know about heatran though cause i always run scarf so i’m not sure how non-scarf’ed heatran is. azelf…i’m assuming is one of your sweepers. can’t comment on it either cause i think it makes a much better lead than a sweeper cause it’s so frail and pretty much any stab’ed priority move will kill it if it’s taken some damage. machamp i like a lot. stone edge over payback all day imo. never misses if you have no guard of course and makes for a surprising attack against all the gyarados and salamence that likes to switch in on it. plus it’s as reliable or more reliable than payback for the higher base and critical hit ratio.
mence is great for late game sweeping when its counters are dead but it should never be revealed too soon cause of all the ice shards flying around nowadays. why do you have stealth rock on two pokemon though?
non scarfed heatran works fine on certain teams, I think this particular team would benefit from the speadiness of scarfed heatran though. Spec’d heatran does stupid amounts of damage, you just gotta get it in on stuff slower than it(heatran isn’t TOO terribly slow), non choiced heatran is interesting, he needs really specific teams to work(I ran a leftovers protect/lava plume/earth power/dragon pulse heatran for a while, it worked pretty well but only because it fit into the team).
Also empoleon works fine as a wall as long as you run it as a special wall, and have something that can eat lightning bolts, earthquakes, and close combats(why hello there gliscor). It doesn’t wall physical attacks very well, but it does threaten a lot of stuff with it’s decent SPA stat. I personally love yawn/stealth rocks on empoleon, that being said, gliscor is an amazing stealth rocker and lead azelf is as well, so in this particular team I would still move it.
Gliscor for a wall has pretty good speed, so I’d say his teams speed is about average (or right where it should be). Two hard hitters in Meance and Machamp, yet two S/Rers are not need. The point is two figure out which one works best, for ideally it’s Azelf in terms of a lead off setup. Gliscor is decent too, however, it takes away from his ability to support even more since he can learn SD/Knock Off/BP combinations. Up to you.
Heatran would love a decent HP over S/R. Ice for dragon/coverage or grass for countering swampert/bulky waters, whatever your team needs more of. This applies to Empoleon, though you can teach it Ice Beam or give HP electric for Gyarados (which I think your team is kinda weak against). Spec or Scarf on Heatran is usually a must, because of his demise via EQ a common move in the metagame.