The OFFICIAL Pokemon thread ver 2.5

Due to the prevalence of Fighting moves and the offense and defensive strengths of the fighting type I think Normal is as normal as it needs to be.

Water and Dragon sure as hell aren’t though.

It would be so incredible if Poison > Water, so many Poison types an moves would have use now.

Crap, my Cynthia team doesn’t work anymore. =(

how are psychic attacks SE against poison? if the pokemon itself is poison its not like psychic can use poison against itself…

god poison types are so wacky imo

If there was any type I would make poison be SE against it would be fighting.

but honestly I haven’t had too much trouble with sludge bomb whenever I’ve used it.

is just that steel type defense fucks so many other not so good types turning them into garbage. Grass and poison get even more useless. I woulda buffed rock type instead of introducing a new type resistant to 8 types and just weak against 2.

Steel is weak against 3 but most of the good ones are weak against 2 out of 3 anyways.

I think Steel was necessary solely because Dragon is an overpowered type, so instead of changing Dragon’s properties, they made it the sole resistor. I think Ice should resist Dragon but hey… GF sucks at balance.

Man, looks like Platinum’s gonna shake things up a bit more than expected…look at all the new tutors:

Salamence gets Outrage and Aqua Tail…yikes.

I’m certainly gonna enjoy using Outrage Kingdra…and CB Salamence.

sounds pretty cool. I’m glad im in Japan… I can actually get it when it comes out… woohoo!

The increase in Dragon moves made it necessary for the steel type. GF had looked into Dragon Rage being the ONLY dragon type move in R/B. And oddly enough it took a set amount of damage at 40, which made it even more weirder. In G2, GF introduced more moves like outrage and twister, but by then they were considered special atking moves. And we all know most dragons in pokemon don’t specialize in special atking traits.

I think in the end people just wanted something unique, since the obvious rock/ground combination was pretty much horrid.

thanks for link… i guess dragonite is now the overshadowed dragon, and with garchomp being moved to ubers flygon looks a bit better…

bullet punch scizor… wow… scary.

curse for steelix/bibarel and superpower for honchkrow are my favorite changes so far.

well just when Dragonite was possibly going to see more play now that Mence get outrage AND DD, dragonite is now forever to be banished… :sad:

and (not that it matters but) HOW THE FUCK DOES STEELIX NOT GET IRON HEAD!? :mad:

I think I just came.:amazed:

Notables In Detail!: (And there are A LOT!)

-Air Cutter Honchkrow (As if Super Luck wasn’t enough now it has a high critical STAB move)

-Signal Beam Cresseria makes Weavile and other Darks think twice. Same with Starmie and the other Psychics. Mmmm I’m gratified from the mere thought of it.

-Magnet Rise Luxray (Nuff Said.)

-Outrage Dragons and Nidoking/Snorlax. (Although Salamence don’t need that shit, Outrage and Draco Meteor Mixmence is just absolutely disgusting.)

-Earth Power Gastrodon, Torterra, AND Garchomp As if Mixchomp and Specschomp weren’t decent enough.

-Superpower Draggy RULZ!!! But that’s not who I’m really eyeing with that move…:badboy:

-Seed Bomb Donphan is DOPESAUCE, Cradily and Ambipom can use it too.

-Heat Wave CROBAT/ZAPDOS… and Togekiss (Cuz a 20% Burn chance is really what it needed, although it had Flametrower too.)

-Trick Porygon-Z, yeah…

-Thunderpunch Flygon! Lucario! Toxicroak! I never even knew Probopass had arms?!

-Ice Punch Lucario, @#$% YOU Gliscor, ruin someone else’s day!!!:arazz:

-Sucker Punch… Golem! Finally something unique for this semi-useless Rock/Ground type.

-Aqua Tail Drapion, Gligar, and Armaldo. I’m liking it.

-Knock Off Empoleon and Ambipom is sure to annoy some.

And I’m sure there’s more to come. My mind is brimming with ideas already!!1:lovin:

EDIT: Gallade gets Ice Punch and Breloom gets Thunderpunch… NEAT!

C’MON RAPID SPIN TUTOR, PLEASE POKEGODS PLEASE!!!:pray:

Salamence AND Gyarados getting Outrage…

GG Dragonite

I’m putting it out there that I’ll be making/using Pokemon with the new moves as soon as Platinum is released. That or I may wait until the learnsets are updated on shoddy.

Salamence is getting some nice toys to play with. Shit he can even better than Uber Garchomp at this point. He’s gonna remind a lot of people on it’s like to face Rayquaza after a DD, it trust me you don’t wanna know how that’ll turn out most times.

Thunderpunching Breloom…if it wasn’t annoying enough. That Gyarados switch in could get even more pwnage.

Yay boost for Cressy. She needs it, at one point people were saying she was the new blissey. Maybe we can all start hearing that again.

How does Crobat Heat Wave? :lol: Definitely Interesting (for much needed steel coverage)

Dragonite in UU? Shit it’s possible now, if smogon continues to rate pokemon off its usage.

I don’t have much to add but:

  • Zapdos getting Heat Wave. Okay, I should use Moltres now why? :confused:
  • Some of my favourite Pokemon getting buffed! Notably the fighting types with access to the elemental punches and Rampardos. Oh how I love Rampardos. :lovin:
  • Absol finally has access to a decent Ground/Fighting type move to deal with Steel types in Superpower.
  • Staying on the topic of Superpower, Luxray and Flareon can start putting their excellent attack to good use.

rip dragonite :sad:

You’re still one of my fave pokes

Well, the stab is always a reason. :lol: I think you milk a bit more Special Atk from Moltres than Zapdos but I’m not a fan of Fire/Flying typing.

Flare Blitz is the ONLY option for Flareon, I’m still ashamed it can’t learn it.

Thunderpunch on breloom is really hard to fit into the standard moveset, so won’t affect too much.
Cressy is better than blissey if you only want 1 wall, and shitty recovery. CM sets are gonna love that though.
Your shiny crobat will see some use now.
Kinda disappointed by giving lucario ice/thunderpunch, kills even more of its counters.
Vacuum wave on…poliwrath fuck.
Seed bomb is nice.
Ditto earth powers.
I’ve been waiting for a STAB physical dragon move for kingdra forevers.

I swear to god shaymin sky form better get to ubers ASAP.

I thought about that but more people could have problems with Gyarados since it gets better every version now (used to be every generation). I think it’d be for the people who just can’t counter him, or have had bad luck by doing so in the past.

So you were the person I gave my shiny crobat too?!?! Haha have fun with it, I caught it at Iron Island. I don’t know wtf I was doing there that day :looney:

Can’t wait for this version! :3