Which one? The one for PSX/PS2/Saturn/Keyboard/Mouse/Driving Wheel/VMU? I bought that one long ago, almost over a year ago at EB’s when they carried them. From Innovation, but you can get something just like it over at lik-sang.com Total Control Plus. I just bought me another converter with just PSX/PS2/VMU slot through eBay for $14.99 plus tax. He has plenty of them and they work perfectly. Hot swapable too (you can remove or insert while the system is running and it’l recognize it)
I was wondering how difficult it would be to change buttons on a stick?
I have a mas joystick ans want to switch out the buttons and replace them with the competition style buttons. Does anyone know the difficulty of doing this will be?
Thanks in advance!
The problem with the MAS sticks is that they solder the wire directly onto the the buttons. Basically, you would have to cut the wires off and twist on some extensions on and then either resolder it or just put quick disconnects on it. I can be done easily. Just sort of a pain in the ass.
I was just wondering where do u buy ur dc’s for 20 bux? Are they new or used? cuz i play my dc a lot, and i have a feeling the laser is gonna die on me soon. Thanx in advance.
I know this has been asked before, but I just came back from work and I’m really not in the mood to look through pages. But I was wondering if there was pictures of the differences between competition buttons and the buttosn the MAS use. I’m planning to get a SAV soon, so I just want to have my style of buttons most comfortable for me. Thanks in advance and sorry again if it’s already been posted…I’m really tired…bare with me 
well i live in Canada, but im sure everywhere is the same… i just go to china town and poke around and you can get them cheap. They are used though. Also if you know anyone who has one that is broken, ask if you can have it, then get it repaired for 10 bucks or whatever.
as for buying a sav, im not sure he makes sticks anymore. not for a while at least. im not sure if rotendo does, but you should ask him.
To anyone: is there anyway i can safely make a joystick that i can use for the DC and PS2 (like massticks) without constantly swapping wires?
^ What I do is I find controllers that have similar grounds, I hate wiring 2 systems with 2 diff configurations. So usually I only use controllers that have one ground. It keeps it simple. Also I wire the controlers into a barrier terminal, that makes it cleaner and its easier if you make a mistake, you dont have to get more quick disconnects. I also Ziptie the wires together so I cant ever have it plugged into both systems at the same time. That would be bad.
One ground Ps controllers
Madcatz pad they sell at Walmart (4.95)
Pelican Pad they sell at Walmart (4.95)
One ground DC controllers
Agetec Joystick
Madcatz Dreampad
Thats the only one I use sorry
Exactly pretty much what RunningUppercut typed: You’ll have to detach/cut the wires off from the solder, then remove the buttons and replace them with the competition style type.
Now you can do 2 to 3 things:
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solder the wires on the new microswitches of the new buttons
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run the wires through barrier strips and use longer wires running from the other end to the microswitches soldered or with quick disconnects.
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crimp on some quick disconnects and connect them to the new set of buttons.
- I don’t know how long the original wires are, but it’s possible to just remove the soldered microswitch from the buttons, and replace the buttons and reuse the same microswitches without worrying about the cutting, crimping, resoldering work.
flyassnicca: you can view the pics at www.happcontrols.com and look for the pushbuttons. Competition buttons are convexed (rounded top) and the ones MAS use are called ultimated pushbuttons (concave type), they could use horizontal pushbuttons which is pretty much the same as ultimates except the microswitch is horizontal.
Vinnyman: Yes there is. You can just make it a standard PSX/PS2 stick and use a converter or wire up two separate pcbs (DC/PSX-PS2) and then run those through barrier strips. Here how:
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Identify the button wires and direction wires for each
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Have a set of barrier strips available ( A MUST!!)
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Now match the buttons for each system i.e. (PSX- X = DC-A, circle=B, and etc…)
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Do the same with the direction… PSX/DC up=up, down=down
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Now that you have the wires matched together, twist them together, DC’s button X with PSX’s button square for example and then run them through one side of the barrier strip (white type) and tighten them down securely.
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Do the same for the rest. Now the only thing you have to worry about is running one (1) single wire from each individual bypass of the other side of the barrier strip to the controls/buttons (of course with crimped on quick disconnects)
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Test the connection use a multimeter or if you’re feeling lucky, going into test mode and your game of choice for each system wired. important, don’t forget the ground!
There you go, you now have two system ready stick with two wires coming out from the back to connect the the consoles.
thanks both you guys. now, what type of quick disconnects do i get and what kind crimper? thanx.
What kind of crimper? The kind you crimp on wire disconnect or connectors! 
j/k You’ll find them next to the disconnects.
Get the .187 size female quick disconnect (insulated or non) Get many of them and avoid getting any mix or assorted packs of disconnects. Waste of money for finding only 8 of them or whatever. Hope you’re using .22 size awg wire for those quick disconnect. The crimper, you can buy from happcontrols if you want, or radio shack. Just make sure they can crimp on .22-.16 disconnects or whatever else type connectors.
Okay I have an update. The PCB from the Beat Pad does indeed hold solder. You just have to use a razor blade to scratch the black shit off of the spots. I don’t have pics yet cuz the camera is on the fritz, but I hopefully will tonight at around 9 p.m.
if your not in the mood to look through pages, 1) don’t post, 2) if you post, at least lie about the reason. But to answer your question, MAS uses HAPP parts, you can select the type of button in your stick, so your question isn’t clear. Competition = convex, Ultimate = concave, as long as you refer to the button instead of who made the stick you’ll be ok, AFAIK everyone uses both if you request it.
Can anyone recommend an adaptor that will allow me to play my MAS on my computer? I hate a PS MAS BTW…
Does it matter if I am using solid or braded wire when making a joystick??
I have always used braded but all I have is solid and I want to start the project tonight. It is solid for electrical components, from radio shack.
Also I am soldering directly the the gamepad board.
No, it doesn’t matter at all. The difference will be the bendability or the wire. If you look at the pic that I attached a few post up, you’ll see that the wires I used to solder on that pad are solid.
RoTeNdO thanx for ur help man, this thread is awesome I rated as high as I could. Thanx again:cool:
SUCCESS!
i got that piece of shit open today. a screw was stripped under one of the rubber feet, so i ended up literally pulling themetal backing off of the joystick. that was tough. i think im going to use whats there to build a prototype to get a feel for building the case for a joystick, and then ill fix it up with new parts later, once i see more of the green, green goodness known as money.
Re: Informative…
What was this?
By the way, sucks your going to Cali for a couple of months. When you get back, we’ll do my stick and take pics, etc…
Is it possible to build a two player joystick that works on Gamecube/PC/PS2/XBOX? What all would I need to do this? If not, then just PC/PS2.