Just want to update you on converter support; the MC Cthulhu works perfectly fine with the PS1 to Saturn adapter sold by Tototek.com. The button layout is still weird, though, and since capcom had a pretty shitty button layout option on their saturn ports it’s not all that wonderful.
- The unlabelled points are directly connected to the matching screw terminals. Installing the wire in the unlabelled hole is electrically identical to installing the wire into the screw terminal.
- The Cthulhu can’t ‘press’ the guide button for the 360 pad. However, you can use the ‘start + select =guide’ functionality of the Imp to do this for both boards.
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Hi Toodles,
If i order today how fast can you ship out?
In just about every case, all orders go out the business day after they’re paid for.
Thanks, Toodles. You’re a great help!
Toodles, i looked at the 1st post, and i was wondering what this new item u offered called 360^2 helper for $9
Ran it through google, it appears to be what he describes in his first post in this thread
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=133935
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5285/dsc03395small.jpg
The 360^2 Helper was a small board I made back in 2007 for Ed at Arcade-In-A-Box.
The original idea for it was to allow common ground sticks, like the JLF and p360, to be used on non-common ground boards like the matrix xbox360 pads; this, “360 on 360”, which in my mind, == 360*360 == 360^2. Yes, Im an amateur math geek.
Using it for this purpose is rather easy. You’ll see six points on the left ‘p360 side’, +5, Up, Down, Left, Right, and ground, each of which go to their respective points on a perfect360 or JLF. On the right ‘Xbox360’ side, you’ll see ten points; one for +5v, one for ground, and two for each of the directions. The +5v and ground connect to where the power comes in from the USB cable, while each directions pair of wires connect to the two halves of the direction on the xbox360 pcb.
Whenever a direction is pressed, the helper board connects those pairs of wires together, without any care for voltage, direction, or anything else. It’s just as if there was a little gremlin inside with a wire in each hand and twitchy reflexes.
The board itself consists of a inverter and a 4066n analog switch chip; certainly two of my most favorite chips so far. Because of this, there is a LOT this bad boy can do, outside of getting sticks working on a common ground pad. A couple of easy examples just from off the top of my head:
-Inverting the triggers on the newer MadCatz 360 pads
-Using digital stick directions to control an analog stick.
-Using a two, three, or four button combination as a hot key for some other button, such as ‘select + start = guide’, or 'down+short=jab (which means you’ll always be doing an option select tech in SF4 whenever you try to crouching short, but not standing short. Dont use with a character that has an airthrow until you train yourself not to hold down during a jumpin short 
)
I still need to write up a welcome sheet or guide for it, but the kit comes with:
1x 360^2 pcb shown above
1x Inverter chip
1x 4066n analog switch chip
4x 10k Ohm resistors
Let me know if you have any questions.
I don’t suppose this helper could be used to dual-mod a cthulhu with a non-common gnd 360 pcb could it?
NICE! So this 360^2 Helper will take care of all the parts you need to do this mod in order padhack the 08/09 MadCatz controllers? Cuz I’m too lazy to get hex inverter chips. Does the 360^2 Helper take care of everything we need when hacking triggers for most 360 controllers for an 8 button layout?
Sure, it could, but you’d need 3-4 of them per board. Each board only works for 4 signals. It really seems a waste to do it that way though. I haven’t said that dualling a non-CG pad is impossible, just that it’s both cheaper and easier to hunt down a common ground pad.
Actually, yes, it could be used to handle the analog triggers on any pad, including ones that require inverting.
I got my MC Cthulhu boards yesterday and I must say - insanely fast response, Toodles. Also, very easy to work with. Took 10 minutes, including cleaning off my workspace. Not wired into the sticks yet, but I’ll probably do that tonight.
One for my custom and one for a brand new, unopened TE. Haven’t decided if I’m keeping the TE yet, but the MC mod might change my mind.
i bought a fully assembled Cthulhu kit for PC + PS3 use, is it possible to install the
Neutrik Reversible USB Genderchanger Panel Mount?
Is there a reason you don’t want to use an AB cable? At that price you could just get the proper AB cable if it’s a lack-of-cable-issue.
If it’s a mounting-in-the-side-of-stick-issue that looks like it should work.
I don’t see why you couldn’t use the panel, it’s pretty easy, mount Cthulhu, run USB B from Cthulhu to A on the backend of the panel (which is mounted on your box), and then use a usb B/A cable to go between your box and the console.
PaperTigre is right. You can mount one of those neutrik jacks on your stick, and use a regular USB A-to-B cable to connect them. You’ll need another long A-to-B cable to plug into the back for play, but it’ll all nice and clean and detachable.
FYI, MC’s and Imps are now on the LL site… Took us a little longer than expected to put them up there. 
Thanks Toodles.
I just wanted to post up that I’ve added two different USB cables to the first post. Both are black cables with gold ends. One is a 15 foot long USB A-toB cable, meant to be used to plug into a USB jack on either a Cthulhu or Imp:$5.
The other is a very short, 18 inch mini-B to A USB cable, perfect for sticks with an AXISdapter to connect the SIXAXIS USB jack to a neitrick adapter, or to use as a small pig tail cord hanging out of the stick for charging/syncing. $4
Sweet. Now Toodles can make less trips to the post office on the account of stick builders and we all have more options
thanks, is there a tutorial on how to wire the neutrik up? i’m not sure how to do this :lovin: