The official Cthulhu and ChImp thread - Try our new Dreamcast flavor!

Hey Toodles, Just want to know if you have stock of yoru Cthulhu boards (either assembled or un-assembled) and if you know how to calc freight to Australia? :slight_smile:

Cheers

Nice board!

-Peej-

FAQs are listed in the first post :slight_smile:

Quick Q.

I will be using this to mate with my 360 madcatz pad and utilizing a DPDT switch in this configuration

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3145/dualpcb1.jpg

For the usb connections… I will be linking the +5 and GRD at the barrier strip I use as a pass through for my usb connection, and feed the two boards D+/D- to a switch, and then wires from that switch to the same barrier strip.

Similarly I will link all the button connections directly from the CThulhu board to another barrier strip where my 360 PCB button leads go to.

I see there are multiple connections on the Cthulhu for joining pcbs. Are these only there for piggybacking all the 360 buttons onto the Cthulhu board and then using the one Cthulhu usb wire?

In my configuration will I just be using the standard connection points along the edges and then solder to the 4 pins where the USB jack would mount if I needed one?

To get ready for Evo, the night of Tuesday the 14th will be the cut off for orders to be sent before leaving for Evo. Orders placed after Tuesday night will not be packaged and sent until the following Tuesday, July 21st. We’re are at the deadline for anything to get to you before Evo, so if you’ve been procrastinating an order that you need for Evo, PLACE YOUR ORDER NOW! Of course I’ll also have stuff in hand at evo so you can always buy from me personally there.

Gamecube extension cables are currently out. Xbox extension cables are very low but not out, and I have enough PSX cables to choke a small village of David Carradines.

MC chips will be sold out until Saturday or Monday; replacements are well on their way here soon. If you order an MC kit or assembled board, I’ll assume you’re okay with the idea that it might be Monday before it’s mailed to you.

i received a non mc cthulhu from a friend and the usb jack is all busted up. i cannot detect any voltage or resistance on any of the points where the usb jack is. is it ok if i use one of the 1-3 rows? if so do i use a resistor to choose what row i want to use?

Im stuck again with SF4 controls.

First problem I had was using my i-pac that keyboard doesnt work for 2 players, so I figured well good thing I have 2 MC Cthulhu boards I can use instead!

Ordered 2 usb cables to hack into rj-45 so I could hook them up and just got done with that.

I hooked them both up and they both work in windows control panel.

Going in game I can use both of them seperatly by doing the ā€œassign 1p deviceā€ but when I go to versus mode and it says ā€œpress start on the controller you want to useā€ for 2p nothing works!

I dont know if its because one of my buttons doesnt count as being the start function (though it should I tested it long ago) or maybe its because both of my boards have the same name?

Im genuinely stuck and would like some help.

Edit: Yes I have start bound as a key just checked my original diagram for the MC board I got with it, im in the process now of using a spare wire and just manually trying all the other keys I do not have bound to a button but looks like none of them work.

Edit2: Tested all 13 inputs of the board using the little pinout for the dual pcb mod. None of them report as ā€œSTARTā€ in SF4, so I guess we need a mod to the MC board or a mod to the game to make it work. I am open for ideas. I also tested just one board plugged in just incase that was the problem.

No idea. I dont have SF4 for PC.
Cygwin executable for renaming the boards: http://www.marcuspost.com/downloads/cthulhu/cthulhu_eepromwrite.zip

Yes, you can use the rows just fine. Put the ground anywhere in the G column, D- anywhere in the D column, D+ anywhere in the E column, and the vcc power line anywhere in the V column. The only thing you need to be careful of is to you’ll need a short piece of wire in one of the diode spots. If you put the USB power into row 1 column V, you’ll need a small piece of wire soldered into the #1 diode just beside it.

Man, they did a pretty good job on SF4 for PC with the graphic options, online play, but they really dropped the ball bad for controls.

Many DIY arcade builders are stuck because they use a keyboard encoder, and myself thinking I would be lucky having the MC boards, I am also now stuck.

Rather than having ā€œPress start button on the controller you want to useā€ It should just be any button or any 2 buttons. My guess is it doesnt detect any of the buttons on the encoder as a start button.

Im hoping somebody knows how to tear into the game config files to force detection or use of the boards for 2 player.

Im downloading Cygwin now, and installing the setup files. Hopefully I can figure out how to use your .exe without problems. Have any important tips that I may need to know?

Toodles, if I ordered an Imp board and I live in California would there even be a chance to get it by EVO?

Most priority mail to CA takes 2-3 days. Order right this bloody instant and it’d be out in Mondays mail to arrive Wednesday or Thursday. I’ll be at the Rio Thursday evening, so it might be easier to get it there, but I dont know if you’d have time to install it.

:frowning:

A bit of a problem.
When I wired the MC board it worked fine on the PS3 and pc. But once I soldered a ps2 cable onto row 1, it worked on the ps2 fine and dandy but on the pc a message showed up saying ā€œusb device malfunctioningā€. On the ps3 it didn’t register at all. Now and then when I pushed the ps2 cable around, it would register and input or two. At first I thought I messed something up while soldering, but the thing is I didn’t solder the ps2 cable directly. Instead I soldered some thicker wires to make the job easier and onto them I soldered the ps2 cable. So right now I’ve disconnected the ps2 cable from the board and everything works fine on the ps3/pc. I’ve still got all the wires soldered on row 1, but there not connected to anything.
Help?=[

A bit more on SF4 controls. Seems like when you set a config from the launcher it does not stick, but I went looking in the games program files and found a config file called pad_default.ini

This looks very promising if I can manually add the Cthulhu board into this file it should work. Thing is I have no idea what to add, as the long string of characters used for the ID look nothing like what I am familiar with from the device manager (hardware ID, VID, PID, things like that, none of them have that many characters)

Anybody think they can help out with this?

For the Gamecube addon, which wiring diagram on the instructables page follows the official nintendo gamecube controller cable?

just wanted to clarify something regarding about this board so to make a stick all you need is:
Cthulhu Board
Wires
Buttons
Joystick
and Case.

I just send the $ paypal so Ill just cross my fingers and hope it shows up on time.

I’d like to quick re-request a quick answering of this question I posted at the top of the page…

Also, is the quickest method of ordering a Cthulu from LL or retailer, or directly from you Toodles? (yes I realize the restrictions this week due to Evo)

3rdly: The consensus on using the Cthulu board for use on the Windows PC version of SFIV is what? I’ve read about problems with the start button, using cygwin and other things. Can anyone provide a run down?

It’s definitely a wiring problem.

If you pin out the cable like the instructable says to do, sure. But you can’t count on the colors being one of the sets listed. You’re going to need to use a multimeter to pin it out and figure out which wires the three pins you need go to.

A USB AtoB cable, solder, and soldering tools (iron, wire clippers, wire strippers, etc) are required.
Using quick disconnects would be a good idea as well, but optional.

I support the cthulhu dual’ed with a fightstick pcb, and no others. I can make a great board, but so many things outside my control happen when they’re dualled that there is no way I could be responsible for them. Can they be made to work? Absolutely. But I can’t help with them.

I have no information on the reseller’s turnaround time, so I have no input on this one.

One works great on SF4 for sure. The only person I’ve heard of trying to play with two sticks is having difficulty getting the second to work, but I don’t have a copy of the game to try and see what the problem might be. I suspect it is a problem with the game, since two cthulhu’s work just great on MAME and other games.

yeah its definitely a game thing, all the keys work for me but start. and there is no option in game to change the start button binding, only at the launcher before you start the game. Even if I bind it to a key there it wont stick and the default setting for button 10 doesn’t work anyways.

I found other people on the net have the same problem using a 3rd party controller so it seems like very poor support for gamepads & keyboard alike on SF4’s behalf.

I have no fix right now and it sucks :frowning:

@Toodles. I am downloading Cygwin again and getting ALL packages maybe first time around the one I needed didnt install? The first .dll it said I was missing I had, and I had to move your .exe into the cygwin bin folder for it to find it, but now it says I am missing cygusb0.dll or something like that.

If I can not get this working in windows, how hard would it be to get this running on a linux live cd or something similar?

A couple of things.

  1. Always do the ā€˜Install from Internet’ option. I’ve never gotten the others to work right.
  2. Leave the package selection at default, but scroll down and add in ā€˜libusb’. I think it’s in the ā€˜libs’ category. Actually, add ā€˜gcc’ as well from the Development category as well, in case you’d need to compile it.