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Are you still looking for MVC2 PS2 for trade?

Well, you can upgrade a PS3 version down the road, but that’s $12 instead of the $5 up front. If you can honestly say you know for certain you will never ever want to maybe play your stick on a Playstation, Xbox1, or Gamecube/Wii (hello TvC US release), then get the PS3 version and save yourself the $5. If any of those are something you could see yourself wanting, then it’s best in my opinion to go ahead and get the MC. It’s a drop in replacement in every way; wiring up an MC in a dual pcb mod is the exact same as wiring up a regular version

Nope, got it covered. Lots of folks are trying to ditch their copy now :slight_smile:

also do you sell wire toodles? i would like enough to do 2 sticks if possible and how much

Ok, I’d like to dual mod my stick but I can’t seem to find any good tutorials that really match my situation. I have an older stick modded with a PCB from a common ground Mad Catz/Gamestop brand pad, and I don’t want to use a switch or imp or anything like that. All the tutorials involving imps or switches or even TE sticks just manage to confuse me because of the different wiring. Before I order, I just want to make sure I understand what I’d need to do.

USB: Since I’m not using any kind of switch, I would just leave my old USB cable untouched and have a second USB cable for the Cthulhu, correct?
Power: Since it’s 2 USB cables, do I even need to do anything with the 5V or VCC points?
Ground: I assume I could leave the existing ground wiring untouched, but do I need an additional wire connecting the grounds on the 360 and Cthulhu PCBs?
Signal wires: I’m confused here. Would I have 2 signal wires going from each button, with one going to the 360 pcb and one to the Cthulhu? Could I have signal wires going from the 360 pcb to the Cthulhu, and then from the Chtulhu to the buttons (so there would be 2 wires in each screw terminal)? Does it even make a difference?

Nope. What is listed is what I sell.

I think this is the first time I’ve seen someone mention ā€˜dual’ instead of ā€˜duel’ in a couple of months now :slight_smile:
USB: yup
Power: You need to make sure they’re connected. No matter which one is plugged in, BOTH need to be powered.
Ground: They must be connected.
Signals: Either way mentioned will work; electrically, they’re identical.

I’m feeling really stupid right now… instead of getting the regular board that only works with the PS3 I totally would have gone with the multi console to use with the Wii as well… didn’t know it existed at the time… how does one mod the regular one to function like a MC?

There’s an ā€˜Upgrade kit’ listed in the first post for $12. All you need to do is pop out the old chip, put in the new chip, and solder in the four diodes (super easy).

Ah, I’ll go check that out. Thanks Toodles. By the by, would I be able to use the stick as is with the Wii’s USB ports? I figure I might as well ask since I’m unsure.

Still, woulda saved some moneys and ordered an MC to begin with… dangit…

I’ve been asked by a few folks for the pinout of the new black GameCube cables I’ve been selling. Here is the pinout of the three wires needed, the color of those wires inside the cable, and the columns they go into:

1-Black-V column
2-Yellow-F column
3-Brown-G column

toodles: right now my i finished wiring everything using the dpdt switch and your cthulhu. i plug the usb on my pc before pluging in the controls. i have the sf4 te pcb wired to the left and the cthulhu wired to the right of the dpdt switch. when the switch is in the center nothing happens ( im assuming its suppose to be that way). when i switch to the left… nothing. when i switch to the right the cthulhu is reading as the sf4 te stick?

i double checked my wires and everything seems well connected.

edit: i guess i should mention that i dont know where the vcc is to connect on the te pcb. what is that for anyway?

Noob in need of help…

I’m a little new to custom sticks here. I recently wired up my Cthlhu PS3/PC board into a Pelican Universal stick… Everything works perfect except one button. When I push this button it will work only sometimes. If I push it rapidly only the first press will register, the rest of my pushes go unnoticed. You have to wait a few seconds and then it will recognize one more button press. This is certainly a problem for SFIV. Anybody know whats up? I tried giving the button its very own ground cable but it didn’t help. Is it the board or could it be something I’m doing wrong? The paper that came with the board labels the button as 4P (4th punch) which is L1 on the controller.

Why would you go through that route instead of Bomberman’s guide that is full of pictures?
ā€œwhen i switch to the right the cthulhu is reading as the sf4 te stick?ā€ - No, the switch is going to the madcatz pcb if it shows up as a madcatz stick on a PCB. Sounds like something is messed up on the Cthulhu wiring. There’s a troubleshooting guide in this thread, linked to in the first post, that walks you through troubleshooting the board. Start there.
" i guess i should mention that i dont know where the vcc is to connect on the te pcb."- The spot on the TE pcb labeled’USBVCC’ is pretty prominent.
ā€œwhat is that for anyway?ā€- Power

Swap the wires going to the 4P and 4K buttons. I’d bet you’ll see the problem happens with the same physical button that is now going to L2. Either the button is dead/dying, or you have a loose wire or crimp in there somewhere. It’d be pretty difficult for that problem to be a problem with the cthulhu; swapping the wires like I described would tell you.

Before I start cutting the wires and doing irreversible harm, anyone has a picture of the finished or step by step process of replacing the two PCBs on the Virtua Stick High Grade with the Cthullu board. I just got my board yesterday by the way.

Thanks

edit: Also, when I cut the wires going to the OLD VSHG pcb, do I have to strip them first before inserting it into the Cthullu and then screw it down??

edit 2: Also, the wires coming from R2, L2, select and the PS button board are extremely short, I’m guessing I need new longer wires correct?? Also, mounting the board, It doesn’t exactly fit nicely in the VSHG, I’m guessing I have to do some cutting to get it to fit. Also, will I need those little metalic mounting things, the ones I use to mount my Computer motherboard to the mounting plate??? if so, what do I mount the mounting screw things get attached to??? Any help will be appreciated, I’m like on Page 15 now, I’ll keep reading, maybe It was answered already.

Edit 3: Ok I got to page 21 and saw that I can put the Chtullu right under the face plate and to the right. But the cord issue and how to mount it remains, as is whether I need to just strip the wire and place it in and screw it down issue.

Quick question to Toodles or to anyone that may know the answer

Which port is the best for Grounding a Perfect 360 joystick?

since theres 4 ground port, i just want use the best port for the P360

haha

  • Thanks
  1. Yes, you need to remove the insulation off of the end of the wire before screwing down the screw terminals.
  2. The wire does need to be able to reach the board. You can mount the board however you like, with stand offs, bolts, hot glue, whatever you like. There is more than one way to do it.

It doesnt matter which one you use, they’re all the same. I always figured it would easiest to just use the six points (VCC, directions and ground) that are all grouped together.

Marcus,

Do you have a troubleshooting guide for the MC Cthulhu? Hit me up in IM or MSN. Having troubles with the PSX.

Michael

For those who have or worked with the VSHG, any idea what do do with that very short wire that connects the board from L2, R2, select and PS button to the SEGA pcb board where everything connects to??? The reason I ask is because those 4 buttons aren’t quick disconnects, instead, there is a pad which the button pushes, and the pad rest on the long board for the 4 buttons and then there is a small wire (5 of then connected/joined together to a white platic piece.

thanks.

Oh, thanks Toddles for answering my question about the wires. I just went to radio shack and got hook up wires of 3 different colors, 20 guage, hopefully that will work.

Edit: The question above still applies. But with the remaining buttons that are quick disconnects, there are two wires for example, two brown wire connected to button X, so do BOTH wires go into the board or does 1 wire, and if one, what happens to the other one?

Pictures, so it can be easier to help me.

Ok, see the board on the Right. That is the PCB for L2, R2, select, and PS button. See the small 4 red wire with 1 black wire going from the right PCB to the left main PCB. How do I transfer that to the holes on the Chtullu.

If I need longer cable, how do I connect that short cable to a longer cable so it can reach.

This is Where I will mount the Chtullu.

This is the Underside of the VSHG. As you can see, the wires going to the buttons are the same color, so which one is th ground, and do I take all of the ground wires, which there should be 8 total, and plug them into the 4 ground section on the Chtullu PCB. Obviously, it would mean two wires go into each ground.

By the way, after reading and looking at literally all of the 83 pages, I realize that people had one regular wire to the corresponding button secion on the PCP insert, and the ground usually was somehow combined into one and inserted into 1 ground. I’m not that advance.

sorry can’t help you out on the VSHG. but chaining grounds together is easy. look at the red wire in the example below from kyle.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1802/mc09vm5.jpg

Nope. If PSX doesn’t work, but the others do, then its a wiring problem. Test for continuity between the pins on the PSX end and the columns they’re supposed to connect to.

The picture is a bit small, but keep in mind, when I say I’m a rookie at this, I really mean it. What I see, and Have seen from others here, is a whole bunch of looping red wire that eventually goes to that green PCB on the left. That red wire seems to also connect to the joystick as well, and I’m not sure if it goes to that middle strip from the picture. The picture is a bit small so it is harder to see.

Still, it is one thing to see it, it is another to do it. I got wire today at radio shack (hook up wire) but that thing it is connected to, I don’t have, it looks like I will need at least 8 of them if not more. Eventually they all have to go to the cthullu board and that is where I’m lost. In general, I’m trying to make it as easy as can be which is simply,

VSHG, Cthullu board, wire, Now what??

Which one of my colored wire is ground???

I have 4 ground slots in the Cthullu so does that mean double up??

How do I connect the VSHG’s second PCB with that small wire???

I literally spent the whole day reading all 83 pages, and a quick trip to radio shack, but I don’t think I saw any ā€œeasy modeā€ description with the VSHG. The only stuff I saw was others using other PCBS to make it compatible with the XBOX as well, and from their pictures, i don’t exactlly see whats going on.