STFU. Anytime you get involved in anything on this thread it ends up with you being a total douche. You need to check your distances and realise just how long you have to spend walking through almost completely open terrain from spawn on Firestorm or Caspian Border etc. Don’t ever tell people to go and play CoD either, people like you are poison to the Battlefield community by acting like some elitist dumbass. Big maps are too big for 12v12, I am pretty sure you play PC so have not 1 clue as to how dull big maps can get at times.
M16A3 arguably needs a foregrip now. Still a great gun. Everybody is too busy being M416 Master Race to notice though.
UMP45 is where it’s at =D
S’what happens when asshats such as yourself don’t know what the fuck they’re ever talking about, or
know what the fuck they’re doing in online VS games like these. I have copies of BF3 for PC and PS3. Go figure.
No more helos. Below radar is completely ass-busted for the helos. Moreso I’ve seen flying the attack helos. I can
flipping nose-grind the ground at 2-4 feet and you will still get locked. It’s stupid as dirt. DICE’s QA is complete
dogshit.
~K.
I don’t know what I’m talking about? Or what I’m doing either?
Show us your supposed real stats like everyone else has posted on here as opposed to your “second account Battlelog” as you put it before. Otherwise take your scum talk over to battlelogs forums and leave the real discussion to people like myself, Funbags and Jae who actually know our stuff and are completely entitled to our opinions about map sizes etc.
Cannister shell is dead now. Another victim of DICE logic making it take longer to switch and fire the cannister than it does to just reload the main cannon.
Just use the Coaxial HMG bro.
Why is this such a hard decision? I LOVE the AUG but I keep hearing people RAVE about the M416
Yeh thats what I am moving on to too. Still DICE logic needs to improve, every patch they don’t just nerf the top thing but break it to the point where it is completely useless.
I thought they were changing it so Premium users could switch knives in their loadout 
God thing the AUG has that awesome hip-fire.
It isn’t the M416 is the best rifle in the game right now, AEK comes close but that is it. M416 is ridiculously good under suppression to, pretty sure that part is just due to bad programming.
Yeh the M416 wins out on the AUG just for RoF. I think AEK is still really the top weapon and when people have readjusted to the M16 it will probably still beat out the M416 at higher levels because of the RoF too.
M5k was smashing people up for me on CQC earlier. Damage buff makes it the best PDW there is for that range with 900 rpm, tight fire, 31 ext mag and 25 damage instead of 20 it basically makes any other assault rifle or pdw obsolete in CQC.
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Also the M16 is the ONLY AR that has that glitched suppression thingy. Every other Assault Rifle gets normal Suppression. I’ll still use the AUG cause it has better hip-fire, Muzzle Velocity, and lower vertical recoil.
No the suppression on the M416 is normal but I have been fully suppressed with that weapon Post Patch and just unloaded on people and got the kill like there was no suppression. I am not the only one to experience that either, Rival and LevelCap have mentioned it as well.
M5k so far is better, it is the second best CQC PDW. MP7 still beats it out with better hipfire and better accuracy and a bigger clip. M5k is probably the 4th best PDW right now. Definitely behind the MP7 and P90 and probably behind the AS Val. It is considerably better then it was though. The UMP is still trash, nerfing it after bumping the damage made no sense. With the nerf it got, its effective range means nothing when it gets out shot by every CQC weapon there is.
UMP45/MP5K are the best PDW’s right now.
Tried the M416 in some TDM to get the few unlocks for it and while it IS very controllable the low muzzle velocity and it kicks up ALOT under fully-automatic fire. It would shoot a guy from mid-range on Norsharr Canals and he would not die when if I had been using a AR with high Muzzle Velocity they would be dead. This won’t be replacing my AUG A3 as my AR to use on vehicle heavy maps.
SG553 is REAL attractive now. It’s let down by it;'s low-ish RoF and muzzle velocity. It’s VERY controllable.
UMP is trash, its damage dropoff is literally like 5 feet from you and it only shoots 600 RPM. MP7 is still the best PDW right now.
so i cant download the patch for ps3. when it reaches 40-80% it gives me a error 
anyone know what the deal is?
MP7 is still good but the M5k ext mag has great hip fire with higher assault rifle level damage firing at 900 rpm and a quick reload. It basically makes any assault rifle or lower damage PDW obsolete because it zaps people so fast.
UMP drop off is horrible, it has the higher damage of all PDWs but it isn’t enough to compensate for the sharp drop off and low RoF.
Stuck between choosing a Carbine to use on “Vehicle-Heavy” maps.
MP5K almost makes the MP7 obsolete. The UMP45’s strength IS up-close cause of it’s damage it has crappy drop-off like every PDW.
UMP damage is like 34 but it drops off really close up so the damage drops sharply and time to kill is really low because it only fires at 600rpm so you aren’t doing 34 damage most of the time and you are doing “not 34 damage” at a really slow rate. Its strength is at the point where you may as well just use Buckshot (this is ridiculous now) or the M5K because they’re so much stronger. UMP time to kill is really too much to even be considered a serious weapon.
Is Buckshot really that silly now? I just use Slugs on my SPAS-12
It’s really really good.
I’ve been banned from 3 servers tonight already. Euuugh.
Been banned from one server. Kicked from MANY.