I think the current visuals sells the cartoon look of the series always had
I feel the mainline series don’t need to look like the Detective Pikachu movie.
The Pokemon graphics thing makes me feel like some of you wouldn’t even give God Hand a second look.
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Don’t quite understand what that has to do with Pokémon graphics. One is a PS2 game, one is for the Switch and 13 years apart. Had they not said we cut 400 Pokémon to improve graphics/animations nobody would give a shit how the game looked.
Also amusing how peeps that rip on Call of Duty defend Pokémon.
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Literally just got on him about being irrelevant, then forces a Call of Duty comparison in the same post. Huh.
Did you consider that the game might look worse than its current state had they actually thrown in another 400 Pokémon on the cart? I’m not saying it would or wouldn’t, but this is the kind of shit that everyone wants to sidestep so they can paint this game with vitriol. We see developers constantly making graphical compromises to get shit running on the Switch.
If you really want to ride with this Game Freak hate train, stick to the real reason. Do you hate the game because it’s not visually pleasing to you or do you hate Game Freak because of their supposed lying?
Also gotta completely disagree with Let’s Go being a better looking game. No way in hell. Other than certain portions in the Wild Area, the game looks better or if anything just as good.
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Call of duty comparison was about how Pokemon is the same shit every year. Ones bad and the other is always above any criticism.
Also I listed multiple issues with Sw&SH.
Graphical issues, difficulty issues, garbage plot, same garbage animations, no end game content, terrible mechanics, boring monotone dialogue, etc
Everyone was fixated on the graphics portion and made no comment about the others. I also said:
Honestly visuals are on the lowest rung of the issues with Sw&Sh. If the actual game was good it’d be overlooked.
No hate on my part and zero vitriol. I give valid criticisms for a game that should be better. Where was I being toxic?
And lying is a big issue with game companies. They should’ve just said they’re cutting the Dex cause they’re cutting the dex. Not make bs statements about new models and animations when the shit is straight ripped from previous games.
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Also I don’t where in my post I called his statement irrelevant. Legit said I don’t understand it. I still play plenty of PS2 or old Nintendo games.
It’s an ugly as fuck PS2 game, even for a PS2 game. Looks like a PSX game and yet it’s fucking amazballs. I’m not saying graphics don’t matter but there is a point where they kinda dont. Style can take you a lot farther.
I also find the difficulty complaint assanine because you can sleep walk through every Pokemon due to its target demo so expecting a challenge from the base experience is fucking retarded in my opinion.
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I didn’t say you were being toxic. I said vitriolic. Which seems accurate to me since it seems like most of your gripes with the game are subjective as hell.
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Personally I don’t think the sprites are ripped. And yeah, I looked at the actual polygonal skeletons that were data mined before release. Some look very similar, which means it’s possible so I’ll give you that. But the game does have a fuck ton of new models, for both new and older Pokémon. New move animations, bigger more sprawling locations, ect. The fact that you sidestep these things seems disingenuous to me, or at the very least you’re not willing to approach this with more objectivity.
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Pokémon was never hard. Ever. Not even once. It just took longer to do dumb grindy RPG bullshit in previous games. This is not and never will be a real complaint to me.
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If you genuinely wanna sit there and pretend that every single Pokémon game between Gen 1 and now has been “the same exact shit every year”, that bit needs no further explanation as to why it’s not true. People that say Call of Duty is the exact same shit EVERY game are lying to themselves too so I don’t wanna hear it.
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Plot in Pokémon is like plot in porn. Who fucking cares. And if you do care, maybe consider where to draw the line between your personal gripes with a game and things that are actually objectively detrimental to the game’s sense of fun. Please don’t sit here and tell me you go into a John Wick movie expecting some kind of Shakespearean storytelling, and certainly don’t try to tell me any Pokémon game has any sort of compelling narrative. MAYBE the Black and White series, that’s about it. Still pretty juvenile storytelling even in that.
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No end game content? Lol, yeah, I think we’re done here. I can’t waste anymore time approaching this objectively by myself.
Shouldn’t have even indulged this. We all agree the lack of a full Pokedex sucks. We all agree it’s not the prettiest game ever. I think people just want to get wrapped up in the “politics” surrounding the game. Which is fine. I’ll pass tho.
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But why constantly make the games even easier than they were previously? You’d think they’d atleast raise gym levels if they shove team exp share down your throat. 
I dunno. I don’t play them, I don’t care. They aren’t for me. They are for small children and people who want to dog fight without the legal and moral implications of dog fighting. Its literally an rpg for children with a multiplayer component for those looking for more then the base game offers and it’s always been that way. Always will be that way. Pokemon isn’t meant to be tough. No one plays the story for challange. That’s what multi is for.
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Back to that it’s for children nonsense. If you don’t care or play them why comment at all?
I think most people are pissed about the wasted potential and promise Sword and Shield had than the actual game itself.
All of sword and shield feels like it’s something they just scraped together and shoved out the door. Which given how TPC and Gamefreak felt about the switch (see: they hated it and thought it’d bomb just like the Wii U) I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the case.
Outside of a few instances Pokemon has been on a huge down swing since DPP imo. There have been some genuinely great stuff sprinkled throughout each generation though.
BW has amazing world building and narrative. N is one of the most beloved characters in Pokémon due to how well he’s written.
XY was awesome with as much as they added in it was a very much “back to basics” approach while stream lining everything. Outside of lack of really memorable characters I really liked XY. I could have done w/o the Mega’s. But I didn’t hate them. I just felt they served no purpose. They kept building up Mega’s as the next big step in Pokémon. Especially since they expanded on the gimmick in ORUS. However, then more or less cut it off at the knees with Su/Mo with Z-Moves. Which was just silly.
Su/Mo basically suffocated you with how linear it was which killed the entire game for me. It’s the one core generational game I’ve never finished I hated it so much.
SW/SH just seems like all the issues I had with Su/Mo but exasperated plus added in a bunch of stuff I’ve never liked in games like timed events or forced multi-player aspects.
I’m not mad people are enjoying it. That’s silly. But the direction Pokémon went with Su/Mo and continues to go with Sw/Sh. I’m not going to support that.
Thankfully since Pokemon is the biggest IP on the planet there are tons of other ways to support it. Spin off titles, mangas, Card games, and so forth.
Yea man why comment on a conversation based
Forum about videogames, my main hobby on a website I visit every single day.
I comment because I don’t have tunnel vision and only have opinions about things that directly effect me. My view is wider. A conversation about Pokemon having bad graphics isn’t really a conversation about just Pokemon. Its about graphical merit in general. Just because I don’t care about Pokemon doesn’t mean I don’t have an opinion about a conversation you have been beating to death for something like 3 weeks now.
Not every gen since 1 no. But mainline Pokémon has gone down a lot in quality with X&Y.
It’s not about the game actually being hard and more the fact it’s holding your hand more than it needs to.
Post story for Sw&Sh is catch the title legend and battle tower. It’s no where near as expansive as it usually is.
Agree to disagree. Not worried about politics or circle jerk with people who feel just like me when it comes to Pokémon. Mainline games have a lot of issues.
Graphics weren’t the only thing brought up. And again it’d be the smallest issue I have with SwSh.
I know. That’s why I went back and commented on the difficulty.
I understand your issues. I don’t have to respond to each one of them tho. 500 Pokemans is plenty. Y’all sound greedy as fuck to me. When I played we had 150 and that was too many imo. But that’s me. I don’t have much more to say about it then that and it will just cause more fighting so I didn’t feel like saying it. Graphics is a topic I care about, more then 300 missing digital monsters. It not being the most important issue to you doesnt really matter to me. Not every one of your complaints is something I have an opinion on or find worth commenting on.
I mean, what else did older Pokémon games have in the post game?
Catch the title legend, maybe an extra legend or two, battle towers, and multiplayer. That’s it. Oh, except this game also has the Wild Area which will be getting updated constantly down the line. We’re already getting more content in December.
I dunno man. I get the complaints, but only to a certain extent.
Ultimately I don’t even care about the dex. Sucks that Feraligatr and Houndoom aren’t in, but Inever liked catching them all. Less pokes is much better for competitive. Hell I stopped playing it competitively because there were too many to keep track of.
I simply take issue with the company making that type of statement and then it’s basically bs. Follow through or don’t spout a bunch of crap.
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Man, I wish I could have taken part in Black Friday deals but I never have the cash to do so.
Psyvariar Delta is getting to be a daily game
Fun to improve and get better high scores.
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Just stop thinking any of these companies aren’t bullshitting you dude. Why you believe these guys? Development is a complicated and difficult process and well more then half of what a dev says during development ends up being a completely different case once the game release. This is so fucking common that I don’t get why you are getting tripped up by this. Maybe they did want to make better models and graphics but turns out trying to make a competitive game out 500 fucking monsters, what 7 to a team or some shit, is fucking hard. Maybe it ended up being a bigger issue then they expected and dev time got directed elsewhere. Maybe they lied to you. Does it really fucking matter? Isn’t the final product the shit that matters in the end. What is said during development should never ever be taken as gospel cuz anything could change at any moment for any number of valid or invalid reasons.
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