Sam… you simply cannot afford to be impatient in KOF. Especially when people have high damage options. Impatient=DEATH. And you have to know when to rush down and when not to.
here some matches from a Shanghai tourn held in 2006:
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cheers
Yay people are talking about Vanessa. Does anyone know how to make her c.B, f+A(1st hit), qcb+C, s.C, f+A(1st hit), LDM… combo connect? I keep doing the s.C move too late for some reason and the opponent always blocks it.
Yeah you were right. Thanks a lot.
Gotta learn those buffer frames, if you can get a feel for those buffer frames you can input st.C early and it will combo.
i uploaded some korean matches:
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that Vanessa is awesome!
Good matches, are those recent?
i dunno…i dont remember the date that was written ^^;
i didnt remember that vanessa could do such stuff in here… O_O
She’s had an untapped potential for a while. Here’s some more hot footage (mostly the 1st match) of Vanessa in higher level play.
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oh that footage… yes i saw that.
it’s just that i dont see her so often in tourn matches and i thought she was weak, which she is not…
It’s her tier rank. Typical as usual.
what do u mean?
Pretty obvious. This is KOF. People under S/A aren’t in the spotlight that much. Take K’ for instance. He’s a solid character and he’s B tier. Knowing that usually KOF players tend to tier whore they turn an eye away from anyone under S/A. It’s not that Vanessa sucks, it’s that she’s not S/A. This is how every KOF is.
You wonder why a good XI Vanessa is amazing to watch? Because she’s not something you see often. When someone appears that “breaks the mold” so to speak in KOF, we take notice. You like KOF 2002UM? Wonder where all these K’ players came from? Why they aren’t they all over the place in OG 2002? Tier rank. The tiers dictate who can take advantage of/counter the hyper hop system and in XI’s case the tag system, the best. That and how good they are normally as well.
A lot of characters in KOF don’t “suck” or are “weak”. They are just regarded as not strong enough.
^^Couldn’t have said it better. This is another reason why KOF will forever have trouble advancing in the FG ladder.
She’s regarded as mid-tier (she use to be downright low-tier) but players eventually learned how to exploit the small invincibility frames in qcf/b+K and qcb+P. Thus awakening a whole world of mixup options. On top of that she has great aerials and an infinite to be feared.
Ah ok. Now i understand what u meant. Yeah, i agree with you. Just look at the arcadia cup for kof2k2um, mostly all the matches have high tiers as chars (maybe 2 out of 3 chars were high tiers).
It’s for this reason that i dont really like to watch high level matches, most of the time the chars used are the same
From KOF94 till now (dunno 12) , KOF is always the same… high tiers are used, low/mid not really.
That’s a pity, but it’s the truth.
PS: didnt know that vanessa was mid
I don’t get what you mean by advancing in the FG ladder, it is a misleading statement. That doesn’t make sense to me, esp. considering both KOF and Tekken are the most played FGs in the world…other games are playing catch up.
Maybe in the USA this applies, but not other places.
That’s actually what I meant, thought every1 would catch on easily.
No one is willing to play chars they like in favor of easily grasping a top tier. I’m glad that in the end XI didn’t stay completely on KGO. And then Asia stops playing cause they don’t see every1 tier whoring.
In 2k2um it’s 2x as pathetic because it’s a well balanced game. But every1 in Asia is just waiting for that Arcadia mag in the mail, and the second they find who’s S and A they are all over them.
Though America doesn’t have that problem so much, it is still a stereotype of KOF’s I hear from SF fanatics (guess you can’t scream tier whore in single char FG’s)
Maybe we do have it all wrong, but god dammit, a Ryu and Sagat did not win SBO in SF4. But 98um’s SBO was literally Krauser/Geese/Eiji/EX Yuri.
In a place where the gaming level is so high, any advantage to getting yourself closer to a win would be needed. Every now and then you see a character that surprises people to see them being used so well. Yet thats the thing, we are only being exposed to the stuff we see and as far as you would know, there could be good players that use other characters but you just dont see them in vids.
You realize that you’re pretty much saying that if you’re playing KOF at a high level the game isn’t balanced enough for you to win with anyone aside from the top tiers and if you are playing anyone below S/A you’re wasting your time.
Okay then…
The top players are just too damn ignorant to try any1 else. This game has lots of potential and thousands of matchups, but they restrict it to no more than 8 chars everytime.
Shit, I betcha it makes learning matchups 1000x easier since every1 uses the tops. Which is why when some1 makes it up with a lower char, they are completely lost. Come in with a beastly Foxy, and watch them scratch their heads.
arcadia docet :china: