hey guys, akuma is o.p.
he beats wile e. coyote 9-1
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stop spamming up my thread asshole
you called me an asshole.
i, however, will assist you!
akuma’s demon flip palm is extremely powerful against gouken’s wakeup but is not mentioned in your strat against him.
meep meep!
This pretty much covers it.
There is no ‘go to’ strategy against Ryu. You just plain need to play a solid (and better) shoto game. The Ryu match-up calls for pretty much every trick the Gouki player can muster combined with a cool head and solid execution. I tend to err on the side of remaining safe where possible as Ryu’s simple punishers do solid damage to Akuma though at the same time I tend to push the offensive more than he does. Its sometimes worth your while to retain a couple of stocks just so you can FADC out of screw-ups.
Above all though play the match often to develop a familiarity for it. Ryu and Rog are my hardest match-ups and I developed a lot more confidence and began to feel more comfortable after just plain playing them a lot more regularly. By this I’m referring to GOOD Ryu and Rog players, not some mope from XBL or the PSN who’s gunning for Battle Points or whatever. Once you develop a comfort for the match, you can play against Ryu with a cool head rather than dreading it and thinking about how difficult it can be.
i had my first rufus experience yesterday.
any advice/keypoints/tips on what’s good against rufus at mid distance (aka optimum ryu fireball distances). i try to throw ryu fireball bait, once he gets in, i mash teleport. however the damage i do against him with this tactic doesn’t seem to add up well against him guessing right on my teleport and punishing me for it.
i heard about a c.strong–>plink late tech thing against cammy dive kicks. is it the same concept against rufus’s dive kick mixup?
i also notice that sometimes we get in the “i throw fireball from full screen and he snake strikes over them” stalemate. is this more in rufus’s favor to build bar? i’m really scared of rufus have 3 bars so i tend to put myself in the ryu fireball range so he can stop building free bar. but again, the damage/reward doesn’t seem to be very great for me being in that range.
and of course, being melee range is asking to eat random messiah imo. unless there’s something i can do like safely spam demon flips (tho i am worried about j.rh–>ex/ultra combos from rufus)
edit:
links to vids of akuma playing optimum against rufus would be nice (none of those player X rapes player Y for free vids tho)
@vasAZNion13:
Bait him into messiah and learn to srk it on reaction. You can SRK those dive kicks too but if he adapts and baits your SRK with his dive kicks, you should have 2 bars in stock to FADC out.
As Rufus always tries to j.HK you into Snake Strike or Ultra, I had some success with f.HK -> c.mk -> hado on block and afterwards doing a HK demon flip behind him. His j.HK misses more often than not.
To add sth. to the Cammy Matchup.
Akumas s.MK beats her Spiral Arrow clean.
If you know he likes to snake strike over your hados just throw a lp hado (slow one) and immediately ex demon flip palm as the hado is about to reach him
Sorry if this is the wrong place, don’t really know where this fits.
I was playing some offline matches with a friend that plays Sagat(:/) and I did a demon palm while Sagat was on wake up, I wanted to land right in front of him to apply pressure(my friend is not that good) when I hit him back down.
I’m like 90% sure the palm crossed him up.
Has anyone ever done/seen this? I haven’t seen this before until now.
if u over shot the flip i could see it crossing him up but if u didnt over shoot the flip then im confused but i believe u can cross up in the sense that u end up on the other side if u use the palm.
Please, pleaseeee,
I’m another Akuma player completely lost in the Ryu matchup. Can anybody point the tips with video ? Cuz just by reading and playing can get like impossible to track.
thx
Tips are in this current thread that you are in. Hence, Akuma MATCH-UP thread. Video’s are in the VIDEO thread. “We already defeated Sheng-Long…”. It should be on the first page. There are also threads or posts of people breaking down videos about what that player is doing IN the video. If you know your Akuma basics, you should be able to understand why some players do certain things against Ryu and if you don’t, go in the Video thread, post a video of Akuma vs Ryu and ASK why they did such a thing (while pointing out certain times in the video to be more specific).
Some people are just too lazy to put in their own work, and expect to have anything handed to them on a platter. We’ve all done the reading in these threads, and we’ve all watched videos, and we’ve ALL yielded results and incorporated it into our gameplay.
If you think i’m lazy check all the threads you mentioned and you’ll see me asking and pointing out a bunch of things that you’ve mentioned. Even though there is a thread for videos, there usually aren’t any matchup discussion there and, even when it has some, it gets lost due to the fact that there are people posting videos everyday and changing the subject everytime. It wouldn’t hurt for a matchup thread to have some videos illustrating points.
And yes, i know my akuma basics. It’s not like i’m losing to all ryu’s but there are some doubts in my general gameplay against ryu that i’d like to review. But thanks for the tips anyway.
This might be a little off topic but where’s Ed Ma been? I haven’t seen him since Bar Fights 2 and he was one of my favorite Akuma players.
Good question.
That dude needs to quit focus absorbing. It gets his ass murdered with jabs. He’s a great player but I catch myself yelling “the fuck are you doing dude?” when I see him absorb fifty fireballs and then go gung-ho offensive and get shot down. I swear his mortality would improve if he didn’t absorb so much 
Found some shit against Ryu. I figure Ryu info can’t hurt:
c.hp > lk tatsu
Reset with s.mp > mk demon flip into dive kick.
Dive kick crosses him up.
From here I cut into c.lp, s.hp, lk tatsu > etc
Note it won’t cross-up in the LEFT corner. Crosses up fine in the right and mid-screen.
Granted demon flips and resets are not the best tactic against Ryu, I still use 'em sparingly to keep the bastard guessing. Provided you’re not predictable you’ll get a reset or two off now and then. Hell, do a couple and then do an empty reset and bait that SRK.
Quick question in regards to the Akuma v Ryu matchup.
I was playing a pretty decent Ryu in some player matches and he was destroying me. Crossups, mixups, air tatsus you name it, he was LP SRK’ing me out of all them. I tried to bait with some safe jumps but they never worked.
He’d also relentlessly punish my s.HK when the 2nd hit would whiff over his head.
Eventually he said to just stop trying to crossup or jump in as it wouldn’t work, and there was no way to safe jump Ryu.
So my game came down to only zoning and footsies, which Ryu really has the upper hand in if my whole vortex game goes out the window.
How does this sound? Is there a way to have a solid crossup game against Ryu, and is there any safe jumps against him?
safe jumps dont’ work on ryu because his dp is faster (iirc)
i never had a ryu consistantly auto correct my tatsu on wakeup tho.
momochis akuma vs daigos ryu.
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video is full of win.
Can someone tell me the option select to catch Bison’s teleport? I already know the one to catch ex moves. Is it j.hk~demon flip?