CvS1 Nakoruru looks really fun…errr, I mean ‘broken’
I dunno if it necessarily falls under “competitive”, but it’s a perfectly playable and hella fun series - Street Fighter EX. Since you can be thrown out of block stun, Zangief and Darun (especially Zangief) are pretty much god tier in SFEX+Alpha… inescapeable tick SPD setups? Zangief’s 40%-on-hit level 1 Super that can be cut short to link into itself again for 60-70% total, OR get a free Super Cancel into FAB IF THEY BLOCK? You got it! Unbeatable AA Lariat, unbeatable jump-in Splash (Zang)? It’s all there. As for the game itself… outrageous hitboxes, multi-Super Cancelling, stupid-easy links, something like 300-400 frames of hit stun off Guard Breaks, 90%/TOD combos with almost any character, Super Cancel from any normal (and most special normals), and easy-as-fuck kara-cancelling into anything from anything (Shoto c.Roundhouse > Kara XX Jab DP is almost 1/2 screen range and invincible making it unbeatable AA against even full-screen jump-ins). So fun. Don’t even get me started on how retarded broken the series got once Excels were added…
http://shoryuken.com/f2/street-fighter-ex-thread-ex-ex-ex-%40-ex2-ex2-ex3-3988/#post85989
That explains it in more detail. It’s pretty unfair.
Continuum Shift Bang is worse than Nu ever was. Bang is easier than Nu, has none of Nu’s weaknesses, and can combo you for half your health(no matter who you are), off of 5A(the best move in the game) with no meter(at all).
Oh, I nominate Continuum Shift Bang and Litchi, even though I think Continuum Shift is a terrible game that shouldn’t be considered ‘competitive’ by anybody anywhere.
Nu, ST Akuma, Hilde and UMK3 Smoke come to mind.
cmon dude, you can hate the game and all but you cant say this for real when Calamity Trigger exists
Continuum Shift is so much worse it’s not even funny. It’s just heartbreaking.
no offense but if you’re not being facetious then you don’t know anything about continuum shift. 5A is not the best move in the game, not even the best 5A in the game, that’s just a stupid meme started because Dacid Bro uses 5A a lot. Last I checked there weren’t any characters with 6k health so half health meterless is a major exaggeration.
If you understood BBCS then you’d know that things like 5B, corner airthrow and command throw RC are actual OP aspects of bang, but he’s very far from broken.
with a post as stupid and blatant as the one you made, i can’t believe you expected well put together counterarguments.
How competitive is SFEX1? Because Zangief was easily the most broken.
Why do some many people not know the difference between really good and broken? :shake:
And why the hell don’t people know the difference between fairly good and broken? :mad:
How can you seriously suggest someone who isn’t even the best character in their game, was tournament legal, and didn’t dominate at tournaments for most broken character ever?
gill
World Warrior Guile
Play Street Fighter Anniversary Edition and see how ridiculously overpowered World Warrior Guile is. He makes the opponent dizzy after two hits and then he can do redizzy combos after that. His flash kicks and throws also takes so much damage. And the worst of it is that only one player can choose him since World Warrior didn’t allow mirror matches lol.
It’s called hate. That is what Yuna is constantly expressing for CS.
orochi rugal from kof 98.
Do you honestly think the rest of the cast wasn’t competitive? Reload Eddie has no unfair advantages whatsoever. Top tier in a game as balanced in Reload is meaningless as every character can beat any other character. I’m not sure what you’re definition of “most broken” is.
too bad he can’t reverse so he gets tick thrown for free.
so much false info in this. you can’t throw if the person is in block or hit stun. You can reverse zangiefs tick throw/spd set ups and if can be beat. Zangief is good in EX, EX+, EX+a, and EX2 (regular not EX2+), but in none of the games is he broken. He’s about as good as he was in HFand A2. Since then the series took a different direction and his skill set wasn’t able to be a top character anymore but he can still compete.
Karnov
Actually, that is a good question. At the most fundamental level, I think there are three types of “broken” characters that may exist in any given fighting game.
Type 1: Dominates all low and mid tier characters (usually 7:3 or worse) with fairly simple tactics. No losing match ups, but may or may not have a couple of even match ups against the top tier characters of the game. Something is inherently wrong with the gameplay design of this character. Has extremely powerful strategies that the vast majority has not been equipped to handle. This type of “broken” character is very rare among competitive fighting games. Generally tournament-banned.
Examples: Pet Shop, ST Akuma, MK:D Dairou, Ivan Ooze, CE Dictator? HDR Akuma?
Type 2: Dominates all low and mid tier characters (usually 6:4 or worse) with fairly simple and generally considered “boring” tactics. In general, may have one losing match up but goes even and/or does not have overwhelming advantages against the top tier characters of the game. Not uncommon “broken” character among competitive fighting games. Usually allowed in the US. May or may not be soft-banned in Asia.
Examples: O.Sagat, 3s Chun Li, T4 Jin and Steve, T5.0 Steve, UMK:3 Kabal? SCIV Hilde? SSBB Meta Knight?
Type 3: Has clear advantages (usually 6:4 at best) over most low and mid tier characters but not all. May have a few 7:3 match ups. May have a losing match up but generally goes even and/or has slight advantages against the upper mid tier and top tier characters of the game. Character requires strong fundamentals to bring out full potential, so that consistent tournament victories can be achieved. Common “top three” or “best” character of a fighting game. Does not necessarily fit the true and original definition of a “broken” character but some people like to dispute nonetheless.
Examples: SFIV Sagat, Akuma, Ryu, ST Dhalsim, Boxer, Claw, T5:DR Devil Jin and Heihachi
IMO, Type 3 and even Type 2 can’t really be called “broken” because these characters usually have similarly ranked characters in the games their from.
Ones I can think of:
Karas in japanese TVC (touches you anywhere on screen and kills that character with an easy infinite, even off burst)
Carl in BBCT (not S Tier but Clap loop was pretty broke. When your character sucks but can win with just a combo that’s dumb)
All 3 of the top tier in BBCT
Eddie in the past 2 installments of GG
Pet Shop in JoJo’s (hey lemme hit you once then fly forever where you can’t hit me at all)
Hilde in SC4 (RING OUT)
Magneto in MVC2 (don’t really need to elaborate here)
Metaknight in Brawl (hey look I’m better in every way than all the characters in the game AND I can fly!)
T4 Jin (JF Laser Scraper was stupid)
Mitsu in SC3 (22B 22G glitch cancel was broke as shit)
Those are all the ones I can think of off the top of my head.