bison owning ppl in ce is the coolest
Don’t know if too many people played the game but…
Johann from Rage of the Dragons
By far the greatest sponge I’ve ever played against in any game. His pokes and knockbacks are further and have higher priority than anyone in the game…I can only count a handful of times I’ve beaten him after countless hours of frustration.
I don’t know, are we talking about Boss characters, or actually playable characters that aren’t banned from tournaments?
Some of these posts make that unclear.
i think that we are suposed to be talking about playable chars that arent banned
playable from the get go or with addition of input? IE Akuma in Alpha one…etc.
Not banned in tournaments.
If you have to unlock them (like the console characters in vanilla street fighter) that doesn’t count.
If you have to put in a code to play them, they are not valid.
looks like people are forgeting about mshvsf wolvie…
I can only laugh derisively at people suggesting Reload Eddie as a candidate for most broken fg character off all time. Fuck right off…
- It is impossible to block standing normals while in the air. It isn’t a part of the game’s design. [media=youtube]RgppBJi4fa8#t=0m58s[/media] As you can see in the video, you can airblock jumping attacks, but you CAN’T block standing normals.
Petshop blocking while crouching and standing: [media=youtube]B-BfP2-UiVU#t=0m52s]YouTube - [JoJo2 match[/media] - Hol Horse doesn’t have a chipfinite. It is impossible to be frame trapped infinitely since you can pushblock to negate blockstun. Double tap ABC (you have to hold a direction the first tap to pushblock) and you’ll just roll out, allow yourself to get hit to reposition things or even better tap 6ABC>6 and dash out and attack. Ex: [media=youtube]drARfn1a1qo#t=1m16s[/media]
Try arguing after you know some of the basic mechanics of Jojo’s, like the fact that all standing normals are air-unblockable.
Matt I said petshop can’t air block at all special or normal moves is what started it. I was wrong not being able to block standing normals guess Hol’s smoke exhale is a special and the fact most people AA with a special and not a normal in capcom games.
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Hol has a chipfinite. its done when Hol’s opponent is in the air. you dp to 1 life then eat a unblockable bullet. (vid coming eventually)
Also here is 2b into demon being push blocked in slomo to prove that it nullifies it
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I think they were referring to that statement which isn’t true in the slightest. Especially for Chun-Li since she’s still a huge threat even when meterless. The Super really makes her but her insane normals are still amazing. Anyways I would never go as far as to say Chun and Yun are “broken”, there’s way worse.
You can’t really say a character’s broken when there’s at least one more character in the same level as them.
As for petshop, airblock of no airblock, there’s still the fact that it’s softbanned in Japan.
Why do a softban anyways, it just seems that if a community as a whole does not want to see a character being used they ban him. Instead it’s like they all decide to sigh loudly and make passive-aggressive comments whenever someone violates their “rule”. It’s ridiculous.
Best example I’ve seen yet: [media=youtube]TR4krLaMf3g[/media]
Check the title. “Competitive”.
He wasn’t even the most broken character in that game. Omega Red, man. Omega Red.
Haha, totally forgot about Kabal. He was pretty gross. Then again pretty much everyone in top ten was pretty broken at high-level
I never said PetShop could block while jumping. I wasn’t sure about him being able to block air to air moves, so I never said anything about it.
Hol Horse’s smoke exhale is a command normal, 4A. Most specials in Jojo’s aren’t air-unblockable, like shoryukens and fireballs, which is why they are bad-average anti-airs.
That is not a chipfinite. Jojo’s has auto-blocking during continuous blockstun, but Hol Horse’s constant glass attacks in the corner does not have continuous blockstun. You can stop blocking, get hit by one of the falling glass attacks, then tech forward out of the corner.
Exactly, PetShop is on his own level, has zero bad matchups and is considered to be beyond God-tier.
JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future ? Hardedge Wiki This is a tier-list from 2007. It shows PetShop as being beyond God tier and even then, I believe that PetShop is even stronger than what this tierlist makes him out to be. The tier-list is going off of the potential of the best PetShop players at the time. Truth be told, the best PetShop players in 2007 barely reach the level of “good” and even that is a stretch, yet they still win most of their matches versus players a lot better than them.
Also, Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure did have at least 100ish regulars in Japan around 2006 (found a list of players looking for matchup charts). I think a game having about 100 regulars 6-7 years after it came out is enough to say it was competitive at one point.
There are still tournaments for Jojo’s in Japan to this day.
PetShop isn’t tournament banned.
I think PetShop fits the bill perfectly for most broken character in a competitive fighting game that isn’t tournament banned.
Using that match-up bullshit if match ups played such a major role. The character you main in VS is banned cause Zabel has no bad match-ups according to the table made this year and previous years.
Wolvie was better than Omega red, man…
Dude. No. The simple fact that she was allowed in tournaments at all, ever, let alone the fact that she wasn’t dominating them shows she’s not even in the same league as Gill or ST Akuma.