The "Make Fei Long competitive" thread

:sad: Im agreeing with everything you’ve posted, and that saddens me.

Really cannot see Ultra 1 being any more usefull than SFIV… and its pretty shitty.

Can we juggle with HK CW again and is it possible to get that third hit off ultra 1…it was tough to time in vanilla so I’m praying that they just are not timing it right.
If he got that back, I’ll at least feel a bit better since I doubt they nerfed the damage on it.

That would be enough for me really… easily juggle 3-hit ultra, and give it a bit of added range to actually go through fireballs for full ultra. BAM. Useful!

That tiny fix that he originally had in vanilla would be enough to give him some comeback potential and would actually help his game out quite a bit. Now…if he can combo off of the overhead we are in serious business.

I mained Fei in HDR and he was the 4th worst character in that game, I am quite experience in dealing with a shitty fei lol. In this case I can at least appreciate the fact that fei didn’t get any nerfs so I guess that’s good since it might make his matches more even. He will still be a bad character but oh well…fuck you Capcom.

Unless he is a smart Guile in which he’ll just bait the Ultra out of you with a FADC then punish you.

I really want counter ultras to be good but man…I just can think of too many ways for them to get stuffed. Especially at high levels where players generally don’t throw out random shit.

Comparing HDR to SF4 is wrong, though.

Fei, even in ST, was something to be feared. Not because he was a good character, but because if you ate j.MK, cl.HP xx rekkas, half your life was gone. You did not want to let Fei get into his sweet spot because rekkas would, much like the name, wreck shit. The reason he was, and still is low tier in those games is because getting into that sweet spot is really difficult. It’s easier in HDR with the buffed LK CW, but it’s still hard. Had they given it more range and the ability to combo as in ST, he would have moved up considerably, if not close to high tier. T.Hawk’s not down the bottom because he can’t hurt you, after all.

It’s not like that in SF4. The extended lifebars mean that instant comebacks are only achievable by ultra (which has been discussed to death). SF4’s rekkas are a joke, and he has very little else to compensate. And I say this as someone who has played Fei since SSF2, and still plays him in SF4. That said, unless I see something that really amazes me, I won’t be playing him in SSF4. From what I’ve seen and heard, this is the worst iteration of Fei ever. I hope I’m wrong.

Wanna know what shits me the most? Because of the decreased range on his normals, and the way his rekkas (don’t) work, you can stand in Fei’s old ST sweet spot in SF4 and murder him. If you’re not right in the opponent’s face using pissy little mixup strings, you get whomped. That’s really sad. Wouldn’t be so bad if his mixups were amongst the best in the game, but they’re not even close. Poor movement speed makes tick throwing difficult, an overhead that can’t link unless counterhit makes strong mixups hard, standing jab whiffing on half the fuckin’ cast means you can’t even execute his BnB, Tenshin is Tenshin and worse yet, requires standing jab to connect to be effective; should I keep going?

Time to fire up SFA3. Guy and I need some time alone.

Well yes, Fei can still be imposing in SF2 (as most characters in that game which is why i love it) but due to poor spacing and zoning options (when stacked agaisnt the rest of the cast) he was amongst the worst of the cast. However he could still do some amazing shit as you said, but in SF4 they basically stripped him of his core escene and so what we have is basically a shadow of the old fei. Granted, in SF4 he was nearly mid tier so maybe he will remain in a similar spot or if worse comes to worse he will drag down a couple of slots.

Counter ultras will add depth to his game.

A good counter ultra would, but the ones fei and cammy have don’t seem to be.

His U2 is as bad functionality wise as akuma’s U2 is visually.

Really though, what were they thinking giving it armor. Does it absorb hits too, so it can’t be used at low life like gouken’s?

Fei Long.

ololololololololol <3

Until we all play the game, we won’t know 100% on what he can and can’t do. It does look grim, but who knows, maybe theres some subtle things that we will find that will make him “okay”. Still drinkin Wataa.

Don’t forget the dimensions counter ultra will add to his game, THE DIMENSIONS, Mr TLD sure thinks so.

Lk danku> Full ultra gauge.

So FAs are faster.

I guess that’s something to look for in Fei…since his FA was already really good.

Sadness :frowning:

Has tenshin into ultra been confirmed or denied? If that works fei long becomes a serious threat. St.jab xx tenshin -> ultra gives FULL ultra damage. So he would have some potent options in close. Here’s hoping.

unless they’re crouching in which case st.LP whiffs and you’re left looking like an idiot

Very profound.