Denied. Can’t do it.
Rofl. God I fucking hate SF4. I’m going to hate Super, too.
ultra wise chun-li, dan, sakura really got good stuff…
still hoping for cr.mp -> combo, overhead -> combo, more + on hk cw, u1 fix for fei
fingers crossed
How the hell is Fei higher than Sakura and Cammy? Pfffft. Their ultra opportunities and damage output outshine Fei. It’s not like they lack for their own tricks either, they have some pretty good shit. Fei’s good in the right hands, but Sakura and Cammy are better in hands of the same skill level.
Wow, allowing counter ultras to be beaten by armor breakers, which are often moves you’d want to counter, is just ridiculous. Gouken’s cancer is spreading.
I agree with what you said. I don’t buy Seth’s statement that not everyone can be top tier, so we’re just gonna make Fei shitty. Um, no… you CAN make his cr.mk/mp special cancelable. His rekkas can be a bit more safe and do a bit more damage. His flame kick could better against trades and crossovers. Ultra 1 could stick on first hit, like most of the cast. He’ll give him something stupid like a juggle-able chain like Chun or Rufus. cl.mp to cl.hp (knocking them in the air) and into full ultra 1. NICE 
Yeah that “there has to be different levels in characters to maintain the rock paper scissors aspect” stuff is bullshit.
So what are they maintaining? Keep adamantium rock so it smashes through any scissors or paper that may appear while making paper wet so it loses to everything? I KNOW I could design a better game than these guys.
But Cammy needs to hit her opponents to do all that damage, and with the way she is now, it’s hard for her to do so. However, Sakura should be higher then the both of them.
Sorry if this is old, so the consensus so far is that the better chicken wing (invincible startup) mentioned on the wakeupsrk podcast is useless/will not really help his game?
I know at this point, it’s all speculation as far as if any more subtle things changed… but yeah.
I still enjoy playing as Fei tier list be damned, and I’d imagine many of us non-high-level players won’t mind having fun with him either…
CW already has lots of invul, it needs to hit lower and/or have better frame advantage especially on the weaker versions. It seems that a lot of the characters are getting their shit nerfed and Fei Long will hopefully avoid any nerfs while possibly gaining some minor buffs and the general gameplay changes like the removal of SRK trade ultra doesn’t affect Fei negatively at all. Fei will most likely not move up to the higher tiers but when compared to the rest of the cast he’ll probably become a lot more solid than before. The matchup vs Dictator will still suck balls though unless they have changed his glitchy hitbox (the front half of his hitbox pretty much disappears when he’s walking backwards, impossible to poke against the motherfucker and I’m glad that both his alts suck cause he don’t deserve better)
Thanks for the insight, that makes sense.
LoL so i heard that Hakan’s U2 is a movement counter. As basically it is a really feared counter, if it tracks a movement during its starting frames, it will immediately counter.
Now i don’t know about Cammy and Fei Long’s counter ultras, but if they don’t even allow that and apparently can be beaten by armor breakers…then W.T.F.
I mean, really.
That’s just sad, Capcom.
Just delete Fei Long and put a blank "HAHAHA we hate Bruce Lee Wanna Be"s sign where his face usually stands.
That said, i better work on my Fei Long links to get back into shape, cuz i’m gonna really hate things in SSF4
No way. The sign would be too OP
Counter Ultras can be broken?
:lol:
Well it looks like I’ll just be renting this game. There seems to be too many stupid decisions from Capcom for me to jump onboard for SSF4.
Fei users shouldnt even be too worried. I dont even see how he can be any shittier than he already is. It only goes up from here even if just a little.
For the life of me I can’t understand the line of thinking that would lead someone to design counters in such a way that they lose to ALL reversal moves. That just seems so ass backwards to me. It’s not like they’re especially easy to land. You can’t fadc them unless they actually connects so what’s the problem?
Seriously, Ono must be the biggest scrub on the planet.
Pretty much agree. Counters need to be scary, and in this case they just aren’t. Really if they made their counters like Hakkans, like a trap, it would be so so so much better.
I wonder if Fei still has no way to avoid chip or full damage from meaty fireballs on wakeup?
I mean ex CW is ok, but it more often than not just flys over the opponent leaving you back trying to get in again.
only problem i had with CW was it only armor breaking on the first hit and the input for it got me eating combos quite a few times but thats my error.
The inputs fine by me, its the fact I can start the chicken wing, head to the kitchen make scrambled eggs, arrive back, see if it hit, then play the “oh look I somehow ate a DP in that 1 frame window I had to land a follow up hit” Lovely.
well the 1 Frame link has to stay. As much as i hate pulling it off and failing, making it easier will make Fei too good.