The King of Fighters 2002: Unlimited Match Thread

[Pablo_the_Mex]

Can we get this shit on next gen please?

[CoosCoos]

Man I have a big knack for learning high execution characters in SNK games.

I’m so learning both Angel AND May Lee for this real talk.

[Shady424]

I’m assuming the console 2k2 extras might be in. King, Shingo, Rugal, and Geese for sure.

[Random123456789]

I’m assuming the console 2k2 extras might be in. King, Shingo, Rugal, and Geese for sure.

They were in the U.S. version with KOF01 bundle.

[Overworld]

I agree with the new backgrounds, for most of the games I liked the backgrounds, 2k2 had really, really terrible ones.

[Lazy_Foo]

This is being shown at TGS along with 98UM XBLA and KOF XII.

Oct 9th cannot come fast enough.

I sure do hope they put the full KoF cast up until 2002. 64 Characters not counting alt versions. I can tell you getting them all on screen won’t be easy.

PS: That’s obviously a crappy photoshop.

[Lantis]

Heidern was fine as a non-charge character. Dunno why people freaked out about that.

Imagine Guile’s Sonic Boom being a QCF motion and his Flash Kick being a DP motion (with both moves retaining the same properties).

It’s THAT bad.

They were in the U.S. version with KOF01 bundle.

Nope. KOF 2002 came out with 2003. KOF 2000/2001 came out in a bundle.

[Wellman]

Any game that allows me to play as my girl Angel is dope with me.

[Dandy_J]

Imagine Guile’s Sonic Boom being a QCF motion and his Flash Kick being a DP motion (with both moves retaining the same properties).

Except that Heidern’s fireball doesn’t have the crazy startup, speed, or recovery of a sonic boom, and moonslash isn’t even invincible. He basically went from ‘kinda shitty’ to ‘pretty good’ when they took away his charges.

[Mycah_Leonhart]

Call me crazy but…

I’m looking more forward to '98 UM then '02 UM, I don’t think there needed to be an '02 UM it’s not THAT old and there is KOF NeoWave.

'98 is a CLASSIC and '98 UM is pretty much a Gumbo of the Orochi Saga it has EVERYONE from '94 to '98

If there was going to be a '02 UM it should have waited till 2012 and have XII’s style, I think it’s too soon for an '02 UM and it’s too close to '98 UM and might overshadow it.

[Jimmy_Bones]

'98 is a CLASSIC

Agreed.

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[Random123456789]

Imagine Guile’s Sonic Boom being a QCF motion and his Flash Kick being a DP motion (with both moves retaining the same properties).

It’s THAT bad.

Nope. KOF 2002 came out with 2003. KOF 2000/2001 came out in a bundle.

Woops. You’re right, sorry. I knew it was one or the other. (shrugs)

[Lazy_Foo]

Call me crazy but…
If there was going to be a '02 UM it should have waited till 2012 and have XII’s style, I think it’s too soon for an '02 UM and it’s too close to '98 UM and might overshadow it.

…can we please, as a board, stop with this notion that people can only play one game at a time? They had this senseless idea that SFIV is somehow going to kill SF2HDR and it’s bullshit there, too.

I currently play ST on GGPO, 3s and CvS2 at the arcade, 98UM at parties, and the only thing that’s stopping me from picking up Mahvel is Calc 2. I’m not going to get Super AIDS if I play more than one game at time.

I will say this, 98 has a better engine than 02 and 98UM will probably be better than 02UM even if it has then entire cast from 94 - 02. That doesn’t mean 2k2 wasn’t great (balance issues and all) and that I won’t love playing 02UM.

And what’s the point in waiting for HD KoF02 when KoF XIII is right after the next game?

[orochi_ryu]

Heidern should have never EVER stopped being a charge character. Whoever came up with the idea of him being a motion character in Eolith should be hunt down and shot. :mad:

Definitely.

Kof2002 is my favorite kof eva, so a remake sounds :tup:

[Hayama_Akito]

Maybe im the only one who is waiting to see this game on Arcade platform (Type-X2 i guess), KOF98UM and KOF2k2UM on the same local is godlike to me, but is just a hopeless dream.

[System_1]

anyone complaining about Heidern losing his charge properties probably only played the game for a few minutes [which I can’t blame you for] or has only watched videos. It’s really not that bad and there’s leagues of other characters better than him in that game anyways

[Cronopio]

Iggy from MMcafe translated an interview with the producer for this game (and another one with the KOF XII producer posted in the KOF XII thread).

KOF 02 UM

• So far, it?s on PS2. No other machine/arcade?
  NG: Not for the moment, but it will depends on the answer of the public. My priority here is to make a polished game.
  Y: The home version is our priority. We won?t work on any other version until the PS2 version is released.

• How far is it?
  NG: Around 65% done. It is playable, and it will be at the TGS.

High resolution like 94RE ?
NG: We thought about it, but no.
Y: We listened to the reactions to 94RE, and most of them was rather negative. That?s why we are doing KOF XII now: 94RE tought them that we had to create our high definition sprites from the start instead of basing them on existing old sprites.

The original 02 is still the most popular game of the series in Japan, and it is still played regularly. How did you try to create a game better than the original?
NG: Each player has his own opinion. We listen to all of them, what we should keep, what we should change or fix, and chose exactly what to do to not destroy the original game. That was our first thought when thinking of new stuff to add.

KOF98UM added several new moves. Will you add some as well? Will you add some moves from 98UM in 02UM?
NG: There will be much more new moves in 02UM than in 98UM.

Will you choose all the characters from 99 to 02, or go back from 94 ?
NG: 02UM will use the Nests chapter as a base, so we chose the characters from 99 to 02.

What about the characters from non KOF games, like in SvC Chaos?
NG: It?s difficult to answer. It?s still a secret? You may be surprised by some of our choices.
Y: ? is there hope?
NG: Well? I can?t be more precise before the TGS(w).

If we can use bosses in versus, do you think you will make modify them?
NG: If we do that, of course we will. But if we do, we have to make sure the boss will still have his boss status, and still feel like a boss. We will change them so they can be used, and change not only their move properties, but even their parameters.
Either way, it?s a home version, so you can imagine already (w)

The character from the Eolith era (K9999, Angel, etc) were erased from the Nowave port on Xbox. What about this time?
NG: Well, I see many people wondering about this on the net. I can?t answer now, but at least, what I can say is: the game will have a Neogeo mode like 98UM did, and they will at least be there for sure.

New stages? Returning stages or BGM?
NG: We won?t add new stage as much as creating new stages and BGM from scratch. There won?t be BGM or stages from the past game (s?). Some of the BGM will be arrange versions from famous old BGM.
Y: The strongest point in 02 is its balance. This UM will be built around this, and change the rest. 02 was created in a very difficult time for us, and there are several points that need to be redone.
By the way, Nowave used 02 as a base, but was a totally different game. Basically, 02UM is the 02 we would have created if we were making it now.

What about the most minor characters, like Kyo1 and 2?
NG: I can?t talk about them at this point, but of course, they won?t be left out.

And the characters that were added in the consumer versions, like Shingo, Geese or Saishu?
NG: Some of them may? You will see at the TGS? (w)

If you keep 02 as a base, do you plan to add strikers?
NG: Since it?s the Nests chapter, we could have, but we decided to keep 02 the way it was. No strikers.

How will characters like Foxy or King find their ways into their teams?
NG: There will be different teams and original teams. You?ll see at the TGS.

Ura characters ?
NG: You?ll see, it?s a secret. We haven?t announced anything about the game, and I guess there will be much different questions after the TGS. Please come and play! Also, there will be a 98UM and 02 tournament as well.
Y: And a 02UM tournament?
NG: The 02 tournament will be on 02UM. We?re working hard on it. By the way, like last year, I will be there on the public day to play 1 on 1 against the players and chat with them.
Y: I hope you have your helmet ready?
NG: Please don?t throw eggs at me. It?s against the rules! (w)
But I think the players who like the orientation of the project will be pleased with the game.
Y: As we said earlier, several people want a new game with neogeo sprites. We heard their complains, and we are not going to change everything for the sake of it.

Good to know that the old backgrounds and music will be scrapped. And it seems that the Eolith characters drama was true since the producer can’t say for sure if they will be in the rebalanced version.

[Leebee_Link]

Hmm… I’m really hoping they put in something similar to Neowave’s 3 “grooves;” i feel like that was one area where it was without a doubt better than just 2k2’s max mode

[JackTenrac]

Looking good so far for SNK. No crap tracks please.

[Turbovec]

That sucks about K9999, Angel and I’m assuming May-Lee. It’ll be a shame not to see them in the final product (or at least the latest revision), since they were one of the few good things to come from Elioth. But if that’s the case, I can assume that the new KoF dream match will not include them as well. Then again, Angel in high-res might have been to much awesomeness for one game to have.