I named two of his hardest matches FYI >_>
I think we should just have a battle royal of all the Street Fighters. Last one standing is number one.
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my tier list:
- balrog
- vega
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<sagat, ryu, sim, guile>
.
everyone else
. - zangief
- cammy
I might as well chime in with my Guile thoughts. I already posted this in the Guile thread a few days ago, but here it is again.
Guile vs…
Cammy: 7-3
Zangief: 7-3
Fei: 6-4
Hawk: 6-4
Honda: 6-4
Ken: 5-5*
Dee Jay: 5-5
Dictator: 5-5*
Sagat: 4-6*
Chun: 4-6
Ryu: 4-6
Dhalsim: 4-6
Boxer: 4-6
Blanka: 3-7
Claw: 3-7
Notes:
I put Ken at 5-5, but I was on the fence about putting it at 6-4 in Guile’s favor, which seems to be the most popular opinion. I think 6-4 sounds reasonable.
Sagat is a wild card. I think he still has the advantage against Guile, but not by much.
I’m not too sure about Dictator. This is probably my personal worst match, so take it with a grain of salt. Maybe it’s 6-4 in Guile’s favor, or maybe even 4-6.
really diji 6-4 guile against hawk? really?
Surprising what the new Dive can do huh Weak Sauc3? >_>
Yeah absolutely fucking nothing for predicting a fireball or boom. Afterwards you can, WOAH DO IT AGAIN? Try and walk up? Fucking incredible mixup. Hope the other players yomi is incredible. Keep this shit under wraps homie.
If Guile blocks a Dive (or even if it hits) do Cr.RH immediately after you land and tell me the results you get. Or hell, even try Cr.MK. The only thing stopping this from being bullet-proof is the RH FK. Go to the page before this, I rated Guile/Hawk 6-4 as well.
Why don’t you actually try these things instead of crying in your pillow at night because Hawks Dive doesn’t knock down anymore?
Why dont you and kuroppi blow each other over how stupid 99% of the other hawk players are for bitching about the new dive? Seriously you two and maybe another no name are the only ones ive heard who are pro new dive. You act like I havent tried these things before or like you’re talking to someone who is just picking up hawk. Next evo mm ft 10 or 15 or whatever. Hawk vs Hawk. $20. Maybe more, depends on how expensive school is. We can play hdr or ST. Doesnt matter. Knowing you and your fucking hard on for sirlin and the new dive, you’ll want to play HDR.
Gridman, please remain civil.
Its really obvious you haven’t tried these things otherwise you wouldn’t be complaining. I’ve beaten a lot of Guiles doing this, yet you act like I’m just being an idiot. Wow.
Edit: And what the hell would fighting me prove?
Why aren’t they stand jabbing your dives?
They usually do. I Dive after I predict a fireball or if I think they won’t.
Edit: The really good ones use standing jab and Back+MK.
Check the footage here to get the Guile vs. Dictator matchup down:
http://streetfighterdojo.com/superturbo/guile/guilematches.html#MBison
Specifically watch vids with Guile played by Muteki and Kurahashi.
(vids from other Guile players are not as good)
Ideally you’ll want to watch Dictator played by Taira or YuuVega, but it’s not as important as making sure to watch the right Guile player.
You were correct James! Good seeing you this weekend, you gotta get your butt down here now. Maybe you can drag some of those guys down too, that was fun!
Current Score: (pretty sure I got this right but if I’m wrong please correct me!)
Ryu: 4
Boxer: 4
Excuse me? Did you read what was posted towards me?
"Why don’t you actually try these things instead of crying in your pillow at night because Hawks Dive doesn’t knock down anymore? "
Sure no problem. Let me just respond cheerfully as he insults me.
What I think the matches are for Chun, Chun on Left.
Ryu: 4-6
Ken: 5-5
Guile 4-6
Honda 6.5-3.5
Blanka 6-4
Sim 6-4
Gief 7-3
Boxer 4.5-5.5
Claw 3.5-6.5
Sagat 4-6
Dictator 6-4
Cammy 4.5-5.5
Dee Jay 5.5-4.5
Fei 4.5-5.5
Hawk 4.5-5.5
Notes: the Honda matchup isn’t a free win for Chun anymore, due to Honda’s upgrades. She is still my anti-Honda, as it’s Honda’s worst matchup still, and you need anti-Honda in HDR. Jab headbutt can be baited by Chun though, so Honda has to mix up to get in, but does a lot more when he gets in.
Guile’s new Flash kick puts him at advantage where it was even before, but still winnable.
I don’t think the Fei match is as bad as people think it is. Chun has tools to keep him out still, and she can get offense on him. Fei’s just got better tools to break Chun’s defense then most other characters.
Claw may be my personal kryptonite, as every single ST bet match or tourney I’ve lost or been peaced out by either Claw or Choi, and well, Choi breaks games by himself. Ground SBK has some use in this matchup. Only way he’d be more broke is if you cut his height in half, dressed him up like Freddy Kreuger and gave him claws.
Fake fb Hurts Chun vs Ryu- matchup may be slightly worse then I said.
Sim’s changes really help him vs Chun, He was buffed vs Chun almost as much as Honda was.
as a honda player, this is what i think a little less than a year in
Claw
Boxer
Dic
Ryu/Sagat
Sim
i would even say Claw is better than akuma(at least as honda)
does vega have any bad matchups?
bison is his worst match.
he slightly loses balrog and honda. (4.5-5.5 at worst)
everyone else, he either wins or goes even with.
To respond to an above list: Cammy loses to Chun-Li. Chun has a great ground-game, and her fireball has the same properties as Ken’s. As in, you can only fierce spin-knuckle through it! Makes the match VERY annoying.
Chun v. Cam = 5.5-4.5