The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

Nothing really new except that Sodom wasn’t considered to be part of the original roster because “he didn’t fit in the story [capcom] was trying to tell.” He might make it in future patches though

I can see Sodom and Rolento in one pack. If they continue Sodoms Story from Rolentos A3 ending,there shouldn’t be problems.
And Rolento can allways fit into the games Storywise, he is one of Shadaloos greatest( and of the united nations too) enemys.

Oh really? Where is your source please?

As far as I know Shadaloo doesn’t give a flying fuck about Rolento, and there is also no confirmation of the United Nations’ existence in the Street Fighter universe. They don’t have representation or interaction with Street Fighters in the canon storyline.

I feel they’re being a bit to the Final Fight characters with that ruling, though. There’s a lot more potential to the ones we’ve seen than Capcom has used:
-Guy ties into Rose/Bison
-Cody looks for strong opponents, which inevitably should lead him to Ryu/Necalli. Also, I could see Chun/Cammy having to arrest him.
-Haggar is an OG wrestler, who ties to all wrestlers, Zangief in particular. I could also see him running for president/Congress, which would drag him into the sights of Shadowloo/Secret Society plans. WELCOME TO THE CAM-PAIN TRAIL!
-Maki likely becomes the next Bushinryu master after Guy. I can see a ninja-babe rivalry between her and Ibuki. Not story related, but biker Maki would be dope as fuck, and make her less of a Rule 63 Guy/Mai Shiranui rip off. Inspiration here: link
-Sodom’s quest for “Japanism” has so far brought him to E.Honda. How would he interact with Ryu, Ibuki, and Mika?
-Rolento’s military philosophy makes possible interactions with Guile and Nash interesting.
-Hugo and Poison tie into the wrestling circuit, which leads into Mika/Gief/Alex/Birdie rivalries.

It was briefly talked about in the general thread. Sodom didn’t make the cut because he didn’t fit the story. It was also mentioned that if Sodom got in then they’ll have to being in Mad Gear, and bringing in Mad Gear means that Cody, Guy and Hagger have to be involved somehow.

Bring back Geki and have him fight vega :smiley:

Yeah, but this is not Final Fight vs Street Fighter. One or two characters would be alright.

I’d say Sodom and Maki have the highest chances, I honesty don’t want to see Cody and Guy returning, they have already appeared in SFIV and SFxTK, they should give a chance to other characters. Same for Rolento, Hugo and Poison. Oh, and I’d like Haggar.

Haggar can make it in easy because the stage ‘city in chaos’ is under his jurisdiction (Metro City’s mayor) so he could have a believable stake in SF5 if they want him to. Guy can realistically come in because Rose will most likely make it in.

I like Sodom, but story-wise he was at his most interesting with Mad Gear. Now he’s just Rufus, a guy obsessed with a part of or Japanese culture as a whole. I’d want him to come back for the sake of completion, but if I had to choose a character from that era who did not make the transition yet, Sodom wouldn’t be in my top 10 even.

Final Fight’s 30th anniversary will be coming up in 2019 I think. A FF pack that includes Haggar, Cody, Maki, Sodom, Rolento, and Cyborg Belger - complete with their own story arc would be amazing. But Capcom’s track record suggests they won’t release something so robust that late in the game’s life cycle. SF5 is doing a lot of first.

We have Ibuki. Geki would have to be completely and almost unrecognizably revamped. He can fit as one of Ibuki’s clan elders/father/uncle/grand father/mentor easily. Alternatively, they could repurpose him completely and make him into a futuristic Ninja like Gray Fox, with an entirely new story.

The way the story went with 4, and how it seem to be going with 5 I would not be surprised if SF3 gets ret-conned completely, it seems to be going that way.

I forgot you need a video to belive something.

The only thing that stands between Rolento and his dream is Shadaloo, his army is in SFIV allready strong enough to crush the american militar.

Since I don’t have a video and just informations from japanese magacines, it’s non-canon according to you, while you yourself decalre everything non-canon what you cannot belive. Or twist it around like you want.
Rolento is the only MadGear Member who defeated Cody in every match and according to Cody is Akuma weak.

Do not make this personal or make assumptions of my character, because I can be just as rude if I want to. I asked you politely to cite your sources, whatever they may be. You either have them or you don’t.

I also don’t decide what is canon. The official story material given to us by Capcom is canon, with priority given to the most up-to-date version of events. We are all free to interpret the data and present our arguments to the best of our abilities, then argue those. But no one is entitled to their own facts. Your Japanese magazines mean nothing here unless the article or writer you are citing is a Capcom employee with the authority to make canon claims.

Keep it civil please, or just don’t post here like you said you would three times now and counting.

@Cipher Could you please say which magazines? (issues too, if possible). I’m interested to know whare all that info comes from. If you had scans that would be perfect, but I understand that’s not always possible.

There would be no stake for Hagger as he resigned as Major at the end of Final Fight 3.

Wasn’t Sodom story in Alpha 2/3 the reformation of Mad Gear? Now if had to be cut because it would bring the gang into the story that leads me to believe that he succeeded in his goal.

You know that every anime ,including TTTB and the SFIV Aftermathes, is all non-canon and the only canon anime is the Juri one.
All Rival fights happend.

But again, I don’t take the easy way without beeing updated all the time.
You even straight ignored what I wrote about Decapre and without even thinking said the opposit of the truth.
I know that it’s much easier to say Bison,Juri,Akuma over everyone, because it’s the easiest thing to belive and doesn’t need much research.

There was a link on the japanese Capcomsite were you could abo it,with one(old) article as preview. Since they don’t send them straight to germany, I had to take another road. Basicly the gf’s cousine buys them and we get them via as packet every month. If I translate the name now right it’s :Public Company Capcom Magacine.
Japanese is a funny language.

I thought Sodom was last seen owning a restaurant in SFIV. Could Birdie stumble upon it, talks to him about how he’s Karin’s pool boy, Sodom thinks he can reform Mad Gear if he gets in on her money, and we have a fun comedic side story?

So by your claim, Capcom-written and Capcom-created material is non-canon. Cool.

Never knew he resigned, then again my FF info is rusty and incomplete. Haggar still has a bank in Metro City, so he is at risk of losing a lot of business. :tongue:

Sodom’s SFA2 story had him wanting to rebuild Mad Gear by recruiting strong fighters. His search lead him to Honda, they fight and it is left open ended. Alpha 3 had him completely abandon that plot and he is now a solo agent who just wants to achieve the highest levels of ‘Japanism’. He expresses his approval of Rolento not using Shadaloo’s terrifying weapons in his mission, and an interest in seeing Rolento achieve his goal. Rolento appears at the end of Sodom’s ending looking for him, implying a rekindling of their relations post-Mad Gear.

No one is rebuilding Mad Gear anymore last I checked (this is why I would love a MODOK-cyborg Belger to come back into the picture!).

Lastly, according to Poison’s SF4 prologue, there was a rumor that Sodom quit the business (which we know from SFA3) and has now opened a restaurant. This is of course hearsay within the context of the SF universe and may not turn out to be true.

Where is your proof that these things are not part of the Street Fighter canon? And where is your proof that the rival fights happened?

Besides the most obvious things like how these OVAs continue off one another or that the SF4 story would be utterly incomplete/senseless without them, Chun-Li directly refers to TTTB as a canonical event in her SSF4 prologue, and Akuma directly refers to Ryu’s awakening which most recently then happened in TTTB in his SF4 prologue, forcing his hand to join the tournament in search of him.

All the Aftermath trailers contain the line “Shortly after the events of SF2”. Capcom put it there themselves to establish firmly their place in the canon continuity. It goes to reason that if they weren’t canon, that line would not be there.

So who do you want any of us to believe Capcom, or you and your conveniently vague, obscure, and out of reach Japanese magazines? Don’t answer that.

As for your rival fights. Show me 1 epilogue in SF4 that makes reference to a rival battle as a canonical event and I will take stand corrected.

Please stop arguing with me, and for just a moment focus on what it is I am actually saying: Your words will fall on deaf ears and you can stomp your feet all you want, but the reality is that that which is asserted without evidence will be dismissed just as fast. Unless you have proof from a canon source to refute everything I just said and/or support your claims - You are out of luck, Mister.* Deal with it.*

Furthermore, if you want your precious magazines (your ‘research’) to have ANY weight at all in this thread, the burden falls on YOU to provide them to your readers here. Scan them and provide a translation along with them, because none of us will go buy a magazine to confirm or deny your burgeoningly flimsy posts. Otherwise, leave them out of the debate.

I don’t think that’s a reasonable claim. Why exactly is the Juri canon and ther others aren’t? Do you have any reliable source that says so? Is that source accesible by us, somehow? (even if it is in Japanese).

Could you put the actual Japanese name so I can look it up? Or if you have it, could you scan the relevant parts or take a photo or something?

Those Japanese magazine about to magically disappear.

The Japanese magazanes he speaks about is probably a Fanzane that has no canonical claim to anything. Just a Japanese publication that shares his sentiment. Assuming it actually exists.