Very interesting. Since she doesn’t use real ammo Capcom should feel free to make her playable. It shouldn’t be a problem since fireballs are coming out of those guns.
Hmm, Enero can mimic opponent’s moves a bit and Fervier uses psycho bullets? Interesting details!
The part in bold is absolutely true, and since Capcom does not directly address all this conflicting information and is cherry picking like you said, the best we can do is best guesses and approximations of the truth. I think ‘SFA3 = SF2’ is still our best guess based on everything we know.
Going back to Dhalsim. Sally isn’t pregnant in Alpha 3.
You can see her here.
If Alpha 3 = SF2, then Datta should be around 5 years old in SF2, which coincides with his birth in the SFA2 era. Having said that, the Datta we see in SF4 looks to be considerably older (at least 7) even though SF4 starts taking place around 6 months after SF2. I know it’s very confusing, but there is no indication from the game Alpha 3 that Sally is still pregnant as far as I know. In fact, she doesn’t appear pregnant when she appears in Dhalsim’s stage in Alpha 2 either, which means she already gave birth prior to the events of SFA2 by a few months at least.
The game canon > AAC.
Thing is both Sally and Datta have their SFA2 entries from the guide stating Datta’s birth takes place in SFA2 as well, while simultaneously stating he’s still yet to be born in SFA3 for no reason. This guide has been fairly consistent and detailed with the game canon so far (save for typos) so I’m not gonna just up and doubt it, but this one made me raise an eyebrow because of how blatant it is.
Im not gonna use how Sally looks in game because character game models in Alpha series aren’t really consistent with what happens in the story. Otherwise Ryu would’ve had a red headband in SFA3.
Literally the weirdest entry ever.
Datta SFA2
ダルシム の エンディング に 登場。 この とき は まだ 生後 3 カ 月 で 、 母 サリー に 抱か れ て いる 。
Datta SFA3
サリー の お腹 の なか で 成長中
There’s still no indication from the game itself (Alpha 3) that Sally is pregnant. She doesn’t even appear or is mentioned anywhere besides Sim’s stage. The idea of Alpha 3 possibly to have been intended to take place before Alpha 2 is completely unheard of to me and really goes against everything we know.
Just like how the game’s have inconsistencies, AAC can have inconsistencies too. It’s up to us to be judicious in our interpretation of both to come up with the most seamless version of events.
I’d just chalk that one up to an honest mistake.
Im not implying that SFA3 takes place before SFA2, I’m saying at the time they were probably retconning some events from A2 into A3 to fit into the SF2 canon. Instead of just making a seamless story in Alpha series from the get go some of its really scattered. Mostly with Nash, but this whole Datta things got me perplexed now.
If Datta being unborn during SFA3 is a mistake then it’s the right one in terms of SF2, because he’s supposedly just a newborn at that time, and Dhalsim’s ending takes place 3 years after the SF2 tournament after he’s made enough money to feed hs son for that long. I’m not gonna nitpick over it, it’s just interesting how many inconsistencies there are even within the old canon.
It’s weird cause like I said, this would totally go along with the whole “SFA3 = SF2”, but at the same time the canon we’re in right now would contradict this imo.
But Datta’s appearance in SF2 looks nothing like a newborn. He looks at least 4-5 years old.
Even in the old canon, this doesn’t make sense.
Damn you Capcom.
Yet, I still can’t wait for the Cinematic Story to take a shit on everything we know. :sick:
Yes. He’s 3 maybe 4 because the ending doesn’t happen directly after the tournament but 3 years afterwards. So if he was just born during SF2 it would make sense for Sally to be pregnant before that time. So if SFA3 were originally a prequel (or interquel now) which leads directly into SF2, Datta being born before SF2 wouldn’t make sense unless Sim’s SFA2 ending is his only canon ending for all of the Alpha series (which it is, but since A3 happens prior to A2 it kinda throws a wrench into the placement of events)
In the old canon pre-SF4, I recall Alpha 3 was meant to take place 4-5 years before SF2, and a year or so after Alpha 2. Datta not being born still wouldn’t make sense. I think it is merely an honest mistake like DD said.
update:
Alright, here’s the album with all of the Alpha 1 endings:
Working on Alpha 2/Gold now.
I would chalk it up as a mistake too, but Sally’s entry basically describes the same thing. It’s not like the mistakes I’ve previously mentioned, it’s consistent, unlike the others.
Sally SFA2
ダルシムにはもったいないくらいかわいいさんで 、 このときわずか 17 歳 ( ! )。 でダルシムの エンティング で は、 生まれたばかりの 息子 • ダッタを抱いて 登場し 、 夫を励ます 。 このほか 、 ダルシムステージでは夫の 応援に駆けつけ、夫 の 戦況に合わせて喜んだり悲しんだりと豊かな 表情を見せる。
Sally SFA3
まだダッタを身ごもっ たばかり。 ダルシムステージ では、 身重の身体を押して夫を応援する。
They try to make it abundantly clear that she’s still pregnant in SFA3 regardless of the ending prior in SFA2. For whatever reason it makes it seem that even if it is a mistake it was definitely intended and came from a source other than the guide itself. Maybe even a different guide like AASFZ3 or AASFZ2G.
I thought Aprile was the medic?
Well damn.
That really seems strange @bakfromon and it does indeed appear to be intentional. But why? There is no prior reason or indication to believe that Alpha 3 takes place before Alpha 2. This makes no sense. 
Whatever the case though, going by the most recent version of events - SF4’s Sim prologue, Datta is at least 6 years old but I would guess he was even older at 8 or 9 years old since he speaks like an older child and he writes letters to Amy. This is inconsistent with Alpha 2/3 and basically everything we know.
So I’d rather believe that Datta is a really intelligent 5-6 year old, than foresake everything we know about the timeline. Alpha 2 can’t take place almost a decade before SF4.
@Daemos
Please refrain from hotlinking images from my website. If you want to use them, please copy them and upload them to an image hoster.
About Dhalsim’s son:
He’s already born in SFA2 and his wife doesn’t look pregnant in SFA3. So, instead of making up strange explanations for the discrepancy in All About Capcom, wouldn’t it be simpler to disregard the book entry altogether?
I mean, the games are in harmony with each other here, so why should some external source that clearly talks bullshit somehow take precedence in defining the canon?
If a book contradicts the games while the games don’t even contradict each other, then the book entry should be regarded as null and void. It’s as simple as that. If there’s a conflict, the games should always have the higher priority over any books.
@DRW What website are you talking about? I just used google image and didn’t care for or note the source honestly. Which image are you referring to? I’ll remove it.