The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

[Chun-Li_Forever]

If anyone wants to take a “tour” of S.I.N labs here’s a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o43Ku-Xi5YQ

How the hell! Oh wow, that’s nice. Although I expected to see more areas of the lab instead of the place you fight in. Still nice though.

[PVL_93_RU]

If anyone wants to take a “tour” of S.I.N labs here’s a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o43Ku-Xi5YQ

How the hell! Oh wow, that’s nice. Although I expected to see more areas of the lab instead of the place you fight in. Still nice though.

Capcom made the SIN Labs available as one of the zones you could visit in PlayStation Home

[Darc_Requiem]

I was interested in Cammy’s AAC account for X-Men vs. Street Fighter, being her first entry as Killer Bee. It basically states that 3 years before Street Fighter II she was Dictator’s brainwashed killing weapon and that after eliminating Apocalypse she went full retarded and joined Delta Red, so nothing too enlightening. There’s also a comment about her red long coat taken directly from the Animated Movie. Something from the japanese text is missing and I’m sure bakfromon can complete it.

「スパII」 の3年前、まだシャドルーに洗脳されているという設定で登場。ベガのジャマをする者をことごとく排除する殺人兵器として働き、彼の宇宙征服の障害となるアポカリプスの抹殺を試みる。水色の特殊レオタードにおそろいの水色の帽子、ちびネクタイといった衣装はシャドルーに給されたもので、「ストZERO3」と同じだが登場したのは本作が最初。シャドルーでのコードネームが「キラービー」というのも、本作で明らかになった。ちなみに、登場シーンで羽織つている赤いロングコートは、アニメ映画で着ていたものと同じ。最****後はアポカリプスとの闘いのショックでシャドルーのマインドコントロールが解けると同時に記憶を失い、それが「スパII」でのデルタレッド時代へとつながっていく。

Doctrine Dark’s scan.

Nice! You pulled the text yourself? I fixed the missing parts for you, but you basically got the summary of the entry down. You wear missing the characters for “hat”, “film”, “woven”, “wearing”, and “end”.

Guile’s SF2CF entry was a pretty interesting read. I especially like how the Sonic Boom and Flash Kick are described, they seem like some top notch techniques. Go home to be a family man and cue the Guile theme.

Guile

Whoa, I absolutely love the description of his moves here. What’s interesting is the old tidbit about the science team helping him develop his abilities even more. I remember that from over a decade ago being discussed but could never remember where it came from. This has interesting implications for the SF universe concerning ki/chi, it may not be a mystical force that the US govt and others are oblivious to. Here, from my understanding, is that they don’t fully know of it, but there’s enough that they don’t just outright reject it as mystical mumbo jumbo.

It’s interesting to note that the Hadoken had been described as having reached a level of Senjutsu, meaning that “ki” attacks are still classified under an esoteric art even in the SF universe. It’s not something someone should be able to learn from basic martial arts training alone.

This reminds me of the SFII V anime series. I don’t remember the explanation but in one episode they explained the origins of hadouken and shit.

Dhalsim sits under a tree, focusing on his breathing. One of the camera angles briefly makes it look like he’s levitating, but as Ken and Ryu watch they do not act like anything is unusual. I’m going to assume its either just an odd angle, or a subtle sight gag.
Dhalsim continues to breathe, and after a few moments he gets the same flame and glowy effect that Yo Sen Kai got back in episode 6. After a few moments of funky effects, a line of energy shoots skyward from Dhalsim. There’s a quick cut to Ryu, as he displays a similar discharge. He is clearly surprised by it. Ken does not react, so I assume this is something that the audience gets to see, but those not sensitive to Hadou do not. Dhalsim goes on to explain that this breathing technique allows one to focus their Ki, and in turn they can turn it into Hadou. This technique is called Kundalini, but he is not sure if this is the Hadou Ryu and Ken seek, as there are other forms.
At this point Ryu yells out to Dhalsim with an uncharacteristic amount of panic in his voice. Something is wrong with his body. He feels like his body is going to explode at any moment, raw energy building up in his stomach, ready to burst. In what I think is a first for the series, he admits to being scared.
Ryu thinks this sensation is Hadou, and his instincts are telling him that he has to shoot it out of himself, somehow. Cue some dramatic violin. Ken and Dhalsim look on as Ryu throws his hands in the air and waves them like he just doesn’t care.

I had actually posted this in the old thread describing the reference it had to Seth’s SF4 stage. Apparently the S.I.N labs were doing some test that had to do with Kundalini

So wait, what exactly happened in that scene? Was it Ryu feeling SnH waking inside him?

Oh hardly, this was before a time of SnH inside of Ryu and Evil Ryu in general (this anime was released around the time of SFZ).

The feeling Ryu was describing was basically a manifestation of an unprepared kundalini awakening (spiritual awakening) that was unintentionally triggered in him by Dhalsim’s own example of a controlled kundalini. If one were to experience an unpleasant kundalini it would basically feel like a sense feeling of displeasure or an uncontrolled response, in the scene specifically Ryu feels an intense surge of energy he can’t figure out what to do with, and feels like it’s literally going to explode out of him. This unpleasant feeling is felt too by Ken during the end of the series right before he develops the Hado Shoryuken. Sim described the energy as having the potential to overwhelm a person and leave them unconscious, but they personally described the feeling with a sense of fear like it was going to “explode out of them”, if they hadn’t of dispelled it into an attack.

Kundalini, as Dhalsim describes in the series, is his own specific type of Hado.

Imo Seth’s secret lab stage is literally where they make Seth clones, the bodies that happen to be in the tubes around the lab and in the center machine are either Seth clones in stasis, “Abels” who have yet to become “Seths”, or maybe even a mixture of both (Seths in the machine and Abels outside).

This is all speculation of course, but just going by what the monitor is showing, I would say it has more to do with research dealing with “ki” enhancements rather than “ki” weapons.

Hum, I don’t think that’s the case. In the pods attached to the machine in the centre of the stage, we can see some people trapped inside of it. They all have different forms, including what seems to be female ones. Some thought that they were the Dolls, but that doesn’t seems to be the case. Nevertheless, whoever was inside those pods, were killed in the fire/lava under the laboratory…

If that was a “Seth/Abel” factory, it would contradict Mike Bison/Balrog’s USFIV prologue were he’s the one responsable for guarding the remaining Seths. However, Ed was in the Secret Laboratory when he was “rescued” by Mike Bison.
If he was developed by Vega’s scientists and was being experimented on by Seth’s scientists after Shadoloo’s “downfall” is unknown.

Also, where did you get that image from the background monitor?

Nice work on finding the meaning of the sanscripts!

I’ll actually retract my theory about the Seth factory, as I actually forget about the female figures that were in stasis aswell.

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/j8gNgHA.jpg

So they are more than likely the kidnapped fighters who meet a tragic fate, but whatever the monitors stats in the background are displaying have to deal with those elements I previously posted (imo it in itself probably has to deal with the Seth clones). Plus more, as there are characters in red blue and yellow, and I can only make out the red and blue ones for “evil” 惡 and pressure “壓”. The others next to it I have yet to make out.

The images are actually taken from a the Secret SIN Lab Playstation Home Game Space (closed 2015).

Edit: found 1 more character, plus there happens to be some more text in Japanese below… too blurry to read unfortunately

I had always assumed that the female figures were the kidnapped dolls.

[bakfromon]

I was interested in Cammy’s AAC account for X-Men vs. Street Fighter, being her first entry as Killer Bee. It basically states that 3 years before Street Fighter II she was Dictator’s brainwashed killing weapon and that after eliminating Apocalypse she went full retarded and joined Delta Red, so nothing too enlightening. There’s also a comment about her red long coat taken directly from the Animated Movie. Something from the japanese text is missing and I’m sure bakfromon can complete it.

「スパII」 の3年前、まだシャドルーに洗脳されているという設定で登場。ベガのジャマをする者をことごとく排除する殺人兵器として働き、彼の宇宙征服の障害となるアポカリプスの抹殺を試みる。水色の特殊レオタードにおそろいの水色の帽子、ちびネクタイといった衣装はシャドルーに給されたもので、「ストZERO3」と同じだが登場したのは本作が最初。シャドルーでのコードネームが「キラービー」というのも、本作で明らかになった。ちなみに、登場シーンで羽織つている赤いロングコートは、アニメ映画で着ていたものと同じ。最****後はアポカリプスとの闘いのショックでシャドルーのマインドコントロールが解けると同時に記憶を失い、それが「スパII」でのデルタレッド時代へとつながっていく。

Doctrine Dark’s scan.

Nice! You pulled the text yourself? I fixed the missing parts for you, but you basically got the summary of the entry down. You wear missing the characters for “hat”, “film”, “woven”, “wearing”, and “end”.

Guile’s SF2CF entry was a pretty interesting read. I especially like how the Sonic Boom and Flash Kick are described, they seem like some top notch techniques. Go home to be a family man and cue the Guile theme.

Guile

Whoa, I absolutely love the description of his moves here. What’s interesting is the old tidbit about the science team helping him develop his abilities even more. I remember that from over a decade ago being discussed but could never remember where it came from. This has interesting implications for the SF universe concerning ki/chi, it may not be a mystical force that the US govt and others are oblivious to. Here, from my understanding, is that they don’t fully know of it, but there’s enough that they don’t just outright reject it as mystical mumbo jumbo.

It’s interesting to note that the Hadoken had been described as having reached a level of Senjutsu, meaning that “ki” attacks are still classified under an esoteric art even in the SF universe. It’s not something someone should be able to learn from basic martial arts training alone.

This reminds me of the SFII V anime series. I don’t remember the explanation but in one episode they explained the origins of hadouken and shit.

Dhalsim sits under a tree, focusing on his breathing. One of the camera angles briefly makes it look like he’s levitating, but as Ken and Ryu watch they do not act like anything is unusual. I’m going to assume its either just an odd angle, or a subtle sight gag.
Dhalsim continues to breathe, and after a few moments he gets the same flame and glowy effect that Yo Sen Kai got back in episode 6. After a few moments of funky effects, a line of energy shoots skyward from Dhalsim. There’s a quick cut to Ryu, as he displays a similar discharge. He is clearly surprised by it. Ken does not react, so I assume this is something that the audience gets to see, but those not sensitive to Hadou do not. Dhalsim goes on to explain that this breathing technique allows one to focus their Ki, and in turn they can turn it into Hadou. This technique is called Kundalini, but he is not sure if this is the Hadou Ryu and Ken seek, as there are other forms.
At this point Ryu yells out to Dhalsim with an uncharacteristic amount of panic in his voice. Something is wrong with his body. He feels like his body is going to explode at any moment, raw energy building up in his stomach, ready to burst. In what I think is a first for the series, he admits to being scared.
Ryu thinks this sensation is Hadou, and his instincts are telling him that he has to shoot it out of himself, somehow. Cue some dramatic violin. Ken and Dhalsim look on as Ryu throws his hands in the air and waves them like he just doesn’t care.

I had actually posted this in the old thread describing the reference it had to Seth’s SF4 stage. Apparently the S.I.N labs were doing some test that had to do with Kundalini

So wait, what exactly happened in that scene? Was it Ryu feeling SnH waking inside him?

Oh hardly, this was before a time of SnH inside of Ryu and Evil Ryu in general (this anime was released around the time of SFZ).

The feeling Ryu was describing was basically a manifestation of an unprepared kundalini awakening (spiritual awakening) that was unintentionally triggered in him by Dhalsim’s own example of a controlled kundalini. If one were to experience an unpleasant kundalini it would basically feel like a sense feeling of displeasure or an uncontrolled response, in the scene specifically Ryu feels an intense surge of energy he can’t figure out what to do with, and feels like it’s literally going to explode out of him. This unpleasant feeling is felt too by Ken during the end of the series right before he develops the Hado Shoryuken. Sim described the energy as having the potential to overwhelm a person and leave them unconscious, but they personally described the feeling with a sense of fear like it was going to “explode out of them”, if they hadn’t of dispelled it into an attack.

Kundalini, as Dhalsim describes in the series, is his own specific type of Hado.

Imo Seth’s secret lab stage is literally where they make Seth clones, the bodies that happen to be in the tubes around the lab and in the center machine are either Seth clones in stasis, “Abels” who have yet to become “Seths”, or maybe even a mixture of both (Seths in the machine and Abels outside).

This is all speculation of course, but just going by what the monitor is showing, I would say it has more to do with research dealing with “ki” enhancements rather than “ki” weapons.

Hum, I don’t think that’s the case. In the pods attached to the machine in the centre of the stage, we can see some people trapped inside of it. They all have different forms, including what seems to be female ones. Some thought that they were the Dolls, but that doesn’t seems to be the case. Nevertheless, whoever was inside those pods, were killed in the fire/lava under the laboratory…

If that was a “Seth/Abel” factory, it would contradict Mike Bison/Balrog’s USFIV prologue were he’s the one responsable for guarding the remaining Seths. However, Ed was in the Secret Laboratory when he was “rescued” by Mike Bison.
If he was developed by Vega’s scientists and was being experimented on by Seth’s scientists after Shadoloo’s “downfall” is unknown.

Also, where did you get that image from the background monitor?

Nice work on finding the meaning of the sanscripts!

I’ll actually retract my theory about the Seth factory, as I actually forget about the female figures that were in stasis aswell.

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/j8gNgHA.jpg

So they are more than likely the kidnapped fighters who meet a tragic fate, but whatever the monitors stats in the background are displaying have to deal with those elements I previously posted (imo it in itself probably has to deal with the Seth clones). Plus more, as there are characters in red blue and yellow, and I can only make out the red and blue ones for “evil” 惡 and pressure “壓”. The others next to it I have yet to make out.

The images are actually taken from a the Secret SIN Lab Playstation Home Game Space (closed 2015).

Edit: found 1 more character, plus there happens to be some more text in Japanese below… too blurry to read unfortunately

I had always assumed that the female figures were the kidnapped dolls.

I think they are all figures of the generic S.I.N abductees. If you go by the concept art for the boss intro we can see in panel 2 there were supposed to be even more stasis tanks lined around the ceiling of the lab.

Also I’ve pretty much gotten to the answer regarding what the panel is I’ve been divulging into

Spoiler

http://www.fightingstreet.com/folders/artworkfolder/artworkpics/sf_art/sfiv_art/SFIV_Stages_Concept_Art/SFIV_Stages_Concept_Art_15.jpg

I can’t really say for sure what everything says, as a majority of it’s hand written characters, which like anyone’s handwriting isn’t consistent from person to person, but going from the panel listed “1” the first characters states that the diagram is of Seth’s body (セス 体). Number “5” (the center machine) has something to do with qi as this 氣 character appears not only in the beginning of this description, but also in the concept art of the centerpiece

Spoiler

http://www.fightingstreet.com/folders/artworkfolder/artworkpics/sf_art/sfiv_art/SFIV_Stages_Concept_Art/SFIV_Stages_Concept_Art_16.jpg

I can’t really say for sure what all of it means in general because of the handwritten descriptions of everything, but just pointing those characters out brings a better understanding as to what everything is generally or definitively.

[Touchdown]

The SF4 anime clearly shows the events that go from a bunch of people fighting Bison->Bison blowing himself up->Bison being in a tube with his new body.

It’s as cut and dry as…pretty much anything EVER in SF lore.

Akuma and Bison have NEVER met according to SF4 and their quotes to one another reflect it.

Anime is non canon. Quotes not based on the past do not prove said characters don’t have a past.
Show me where Capcom said the Akuma and Bison SF2 altercation [Which was shown in a few of the SF2 series] didn’t happen and you prove your point.

Bison doesn’t have to know Akuma beforehand to know what Satsui no Hado is. His experiences with Ryu have already shown him what it is. Given that he just fought Akuma (going by the win quote), he would’ve figured out that his power is Satsui no Hado.

Akuma is shown visualizing Ryu, Bison, and Gen in his ending. We already know for a fact** his only encounters **with Bison (Alpha 1 and Alpha 3) never happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T51U8uQFrQo

That’s why Bison needs a new body by SF4, not Akuma.

Anime is non canon. Just because quotes don’t talk about the past don’t mean the past didn’t happen. Absence of evidence is not evidence.

Capcom created an anime sequence that clearly shows what happened at the end of SF2. Therefore, they stated it. I merely repeat what’s in this anime.

I don’t get why you still deny this. Capcom has shown clearly enough that they don’t care to keep a continuity with the old games anymore.
The best proof is Charlie:

In SFA2, he was killed, but in SFA3 he was there. Which means his SFA2 ending never happened. Then in Guile’s SFA3 ending, he was killed as well, making this his canon death scene.

But now in SF4 and SF5, they established that his SFA2 ending is his canon death scene.
So, they completely obliterated basic things of SFA3 from canon. Not only what-if ending scenes. Basic stuff, like Charlie being a selectable character who still works for the Air Force and who goes on a mission with Chun Li and with Guile. This simply doesn’t count anymore. I.e. SFA3 isn’t canon in its entirety anymore.

So, why is it so hard to believe that they also removed a bunch of the SF2 stuff?
Especially when they have a promotional anime, drawn in the same style as the in-game cutscenes, that shows exactly what happens?
So, do you think the anime is non-canon now, but this one-liner in an English manual is the canon representation of the plot?

That manual is in game canon! The anime has always been non canon.The games are the only canon. Charlies death was never confirmed in Alpha 2. Stating so by the soldier who shot charlie. Hence why Charlie was back in Alpha 3 for playing purposes, not for story sake, his death was up for grabs but has now returned to show that he did survive in SFV. Until Capcom states otherwise, Akuma GG Bison!!!

[YagamiFire]

[Doctrine_Dark]

It was a trailer made by Capcom utilizing the SF4 styled anime. Do you think the purpose of creating an Aftermath trailer was to confuse the general audience on the story even more? No. It was to clarify how SF2 ended and what happened to Shadaloo after it was over.

Did Akuma SGS Gill? Did Akuma SGS Ken before you fight him with Ryu? If you’re going to say in-game feats are what establish the canon, then you’re saying Akuma potentially SGS’d a good amount of the cast in SF3. It never happened, like the SGS on Bison.

[bakfromon]

Just because quotes don’t talk about the past don’t mean the past didn’t happen. Absence of evidence is not evidence.

This is true in some cases, as Adon’s quotes to Akuma doesn’t reference how enthusiastic he was about SnH in SSF4, although this was a canon part of his story in Alpha series. Although, don’t you think it’s a little strange that there isn’t a win quote referencing the ordeal in the canon game, but there is in the non canon SFxT title?

Akuma def Bison: “Your power crumbles before Satsui no Hado! Fool! I will send you to hell again!”

Why would this be referenced in a non canon crossover title, but neglect to be brought up in the main canon title?

Unlike the Adon vs Akuma rivalry, if Bison’s tournament were to have been sabotaged by Akuma, you would think they would save the idea for a win quote to at least nod to that particular event.

It’s not like they didn’t have the concept, because the artwork of a damaged Bison does mention that it’s done by Akuma.

The concept art doesn’t prove anything, as the SFV bearded Ryu concept came from an early stage of Ryu recovering from having transformed into Evil Ryu.

They didn’t mention Akuma vs Bison in the game because it’s not relevant to the story any longer and has thus been retconned out of it.

The game manual proves nothing, as there are multiple versions of the same one which may or may not choose to omit the Akuma vs Bison event, which is just too inconsistent of a backstory. The main backstory behind SF4 is that Bison held SF2 which was legendary in itself but ended with the fall of Shadaloo, and the rise of S.I.N and more mysterious abductions.

Akuma doesn’t need to be present for this to happen, nor is he referenced by relative in game source material to be.

[DRW]

Anime is non canon.

Dammit! Stop quoting that stupid plot guide like it’s dogma. You didn’t even understand the meaning:

The statement “No amines are canon” was written at a time when there really were no canon animes. The statement was directed towards “Street Fighter II - The Animated Movie” and the like. The statement told you that these licensed products are their own story, but they are not part of the official canon.

Obviously, this does not count for animes created by Capcom itself specifically for the games in the same art style as the cutscenes. These animes don’t even make sense as a standalone story. They are only clips that serve as an extension to the game’s cutscenes. It wouldn’t have made sense to create them as their own thing.

Show me where Capcom said the Akuma and Bison SF2 altercation [Which was shown in a few of the SF2 series] didn’t happen and you prove your point.

I already explained that: They didn’t say that Guile’s SFA3 ending didn’t happen either. They didn’t say that they retconned Charlie’s existence out of SFA3. And yet, that’s what they did, even back in SF4.
You will never get this statement from Capcom because they didn’t even explicitly say that the new games retcon anything at all. They just keep quiet and then they do or they don’t show you their decisions in the cutscenes.

Akuma’s attack against M. Bison ended the story of SF2. This was what defeated M. Bison. Now Capcom brought out an anime where Bison wasn’t defeated yet at the end of SF2 and where his defeat was by the five fighters and by his own hands. This anime is specifically linked to SF4, it is just a teaser and makes no sense as a standalone product and it is not commercial, so it wasn’t created to make money with it. Instead, it serves as an expansion to the SF4 story cutscenes.
And this is the place where you see Capcom denying that SF2 ended with Bison being defeated by Akuma.

Charlies death was never confirmed in Alpha 2. Stating so by the soldier who shot charlie.

Sure, but the new story shows that Charlie didn’t reappear until SF5, so he obviously didn’t walk around with Chun Li and Guile during the time of SFA3. Therefore, his SFA3 appearance was retconned.

Hence why Charlie was back in Alpha 3 for playing purposes, not for story sake

This is the biggest bullshit. Charlie in SFA3 is not a what-if character like Evil Ryu. He is closely tied to the storyline. He appears together with Chun Li and with Guile and he investigates Bison. He appears in most people’s endings. So, he’s definitely supposed to be there.
And no matter if his SFA2 ending appeared within the context of SFA3 (it probably didn’t because he didn’t look like someone who had just been shot in the back and fell down a waterfall): The story was changed anyway. If his SFA2 ending happened in the SFA3 plot (it didn’t, but let’s assume it did), then he obviously survived the fall into the water unharmed and immediately continued his mission in SFA3.
But in the context of SF4 and SF5, this fall injured him and he was unconscious for years, so his SFA3 appearance didn’t happen within SF4 and SF5.

Hence, we have a Capcom retcon without anybody walking up to a desk and making a public announcement.

[PVL_93_RU]

I’ve been wondering for a long time why exactly Capcom decided to back-pedal on certain Alpha 3 endings/content and went back to Alpha 2’s endings, like with Charlie getting killed by a chopper instead of blown up along with Bison and his base

Did they feel that retconning the canon of Alpha 2 right after they did the same to Alpha 1 was unnecessary? Or was it a purely storytelling decision because they just thought that Alpha 2 scenarios were better?

[DRW]

I assume it is because the plot is so redundant: Bison gets blown up, Bison gets resurrected. Bison gets Shun Goku Satsued, Bison is resurrected.

Also, SF2 is much smaller in scope than SFA3, but SFA3 is supposed to play earlier. Combine this with the fact that SF2 basically has no storyline that moves the plot forward and it has a very anti climactic ending. And so they probably found it easier to just combine SFA3 and SF2 into one and the same event. And so, they had to “kill” Charlie earlier.

They could have just dropped SF2 completely and went from SFA3. It would have worked just as well. But SF2 is the most famous game in the series, so they had to keep it somehow.

Another theory: They wanted to bring Charlie back. But surviving this explosion is a lot less likely than surviving a fall into water. So, they retconned stuff.

[PVL_93_RU]

Another theory: They wanted to bring Charlie back. But surviving this explosion is a lot less likely than surviving a fall into water. So, they retconned stuff.

It depends on how this explosion could have affected Charlie. If he was engulfed in flames then sure, he’d be pretty much dead. He could’ve been hit by the shockwave and then buried under debris from the base’s entrance - he would be injured, but he would’ve survived still

[mikros]

I guess that Charlie’s SFA2 death was easier to show in a visual manner and very convenient for the “the body was never found” trope with the falling from the cliff?

Maybe the fact that Charlie didn’t die in the arcade version of SFA3 was a factor to discard his death in that game.

[LOVECYCLONE]

I guess that Charlie’s SFA2 death was easier to show in a visual manner and very convenient for the “the body was never found” trope with the falling from the cliff?

Maybe the fact that Charlie didn’t die in the arcade version of SFA3 was a factor to discard his death in that game.

Yeah. They choose his waterfall death because it’s the only one suitable for modern games scenarios where Guile still believes he could be alive somewhere and where Nash himself can be reintroduced as a playable character.

Nash’s ZERO3 arcade ending is just another what-if scenario where the playable character has to eliminate game’s big bad boss. Not so different from the SFII era where the fighter you select is the winner of the tournament. Guile’s ZERO3 console ending doesn’t make any sense: he runs away while his friend holds Dictator and the base explodes. It’s the proof that Capcom guys were smoking a lot of good stuff back in the days.

Nice! You pulled the text yourself? I fixed the missing parts for you, but you basically got the summary of the entry down.

Great, thank you.

[DRW]

It depends on how this explosion could have affected Charlie.

Well, that explosion definitely killed Bison and he had to resurrect. So, it would be pretty unlikely that Charlie, who was in the exact same place, survived naturally.

It also shows Guile accepting Charlie’s death, which was the whole reason why he enters the second tournament in the old canon: Because he wanted to avenge Charlie. With that scenario, it would be a bit strange that Guile suddenly denies Charlie’s death.
But with SFA2’s ending and with SF2 being merged with SFA3 (a.k.a. nothing in the game, like Guile’s dialog with Bison and with his family, still has to be canon), the story works again.

Also, yeah, in the SFA3 ending, Guile stood near by. If he really thought Charlie survived, he could have searched the place or get a search unit.

[bakfromon]

The whole Nash being blown up scenario really only happened in Guile’s SFA3 ending, and Guile was only added later onto the console versions retconning Nash’s otherwise victorious ending with the grim fate he’s used to. So in reality they are using the last death scenario that was truly relevant to Nash as it occurred in Alpha 2.

Charlies death was never confirmed in Alpha 2. Stating so by the soldier who shot charlie. Hence why Charlie was back in Alpha 3 for playing purposes, not for story sake

The irony about this statement is that it’s only half true. Correct on the account that Nash wasn’t confirmed dead in Alpha 2, but the irony is the only reason why Guile appeared in Alpha 3 was for playing purposes on the console, because he wasn’t included in the original arcade. The same would go for T. Hawk, Fei Long, Dee Jay, and anyone else added onto the console version. Honestly, the only plot points that have actually truly affected anything going forward from console exclusive characters of Alpha 3 was the T. Hawk and Julia connection, and if Juli turns out to be a part of the Dolls again in SFV (like she did in 4) what does that say about Hawk’s SF4 and Alpha 3 ending? Is Hawk that incompetent as to keep loosing the same person to the same organization? Is Shadaloo that powerful? Or is it just a retcon?

Imo it’s a retcon.

[DarthEnder]

Looks like 14 of those articles are live now.

001: Yamato Nadeshiko
002: Gou Hibiki
003: Don Suavage
004: Masters House
005: Sodom
006: Rose
007: Mike Haggar
008: Delta Red
009: Rufus
010: Retsu
011: Geki
012: Joe
013: Mike
014: Birdie

How many more before we start seeing new ones?(edit: I guess we were on article 31 before Capcom wised up on what were were doing)

Also, I don’t know if anyone noticed, but their first article, Nadeshiko, now has an English translation right on the page.

[fistoftheryustar]

What was Ono thinking??

A deep rich story? Cinematics?? Are we still getting those? What’s supposed to happen with this story they’re building?

We see Ryu and Necalli fighting in the opening but their dialogue box story mode barely mentions anything between the two.

[Chun-Li_Forever]

What was Ono thinking??

A deep rich story? Cinematics?? Are we still getting those? What’s supposed to happen with this story they’re building?

We see Ryu and Necalli fighting in the opening but their dialogue box story mode barely mentions anything between the two.

Realisticly speaking, yes we’re still getting Cinematics. But based on what was presented in the character stories, and seeing how capcom has always focused heavily on gameplay rather than lore, I am lowering my expectations for the cinematic story mode coming in June. So far, the content that has been given to us via character stories have been very minimal, barely enough matches and less content than desired. While it does accomplish it’s goal of introducing the cahracters and setting up their story leaving us wanting more, it fails however to provide any real context to the characters.

Now i’m sure that come June, it’s going to look nice and people are going to be happy because Capcom finally decided to pay attention to the story and put some effort into it. However, with the rumor that the story cutscenes would be an hour in length, plus the matches you play in game, i’m anticipating that it’s going to feel short and rushed. Pushing through many plot lines within the course of an hour or two.

[MrPyro]

I bet the matches will be piss easy like in the prologues.