The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

[Doctrine_Dark]

Hopefully the difficulty is increased to a point where a 6 month old baby can’t beat it. That would be great.

[ES_Curse]

Hopefully the difficulty is increased to a point where a 6 month old baby can’t beat it. That would be great.

They can just copy the hard/hell/extreme survival AI

[DarthEnder]

Ideally, they’d just let you CHOOSE the difficulty.

[Hawkingbird]

Looks like twelve of those articles are live now.

001: Yamato Nadesiko
002: Gou Hibiki
003: Don Suavage
004: Masters House
005: Sodom
006: Rose
007: Mike Haggar
008: Delta Red
009: Rufus
010: Retsu
011: Geki
012: Joe

How many more before we start seeing new ones?(edit: I guess we were on article 31 before Capcom wised up on what were were doing)

Also, I don’t know if anyone noticed, but their first article, Nadeshiko, now has an English translation right on the page.

Nadeshiko is suppose to be wearing a mask in her heel persona? It looks like face paint.

[bakfromon]

Looks like twelve of those articles are live now.

001: Yamato Nadesiko
002: Gou Hibiki
003: Don Suavage
004: Masters House
005: Sodom
006: Rose
007: Mike Haggar
008: Delta Red
009: Rufus
010: Retsu
011: Geki
012: Joe

How many more before we start seeing new ones?(edit: I guess we were on article 31 before Capcom wised up on what were were doing)

Also, I don’t know if anyone noticed, but their first article, Nadeshiko, now has an English translation right on the page.

Nadeshiko is suppose to be wearing a mask in her heel persona? It looks like face paint.

The facepaint she’s wearing is in the style of a Kabuki mask, so, in essence, it’s like a mask made of makeup.

[Cestus]

Looks like twelve of those articles are live now.

001: Yamato Nadesiko
002: Gou Hibiki
003: Don Suavage
004: Masters House
005: Sodom
006: Rose
007: Mike Haggar
008: Delta Red
009: Rufus
010: Retsu
011: Geki
012: Joe

How many more before we start seeing new ones?(edit: I guess we were on article 31 before Capcom wised up on what were were doing)

Also, I don’t know if anyone noticed, but their first article, Nadeshiko, now has an English translation right on the page.

Nadeshiko is suppose to be wearing a mask in her heel persona? It looks like face paint.

The facepaint she’s wearing is in the style of a Kabuki mask, so, in essence, it’s like a mask made of makeup.

Now that i think about it

Zangief & R.Mika vs Kabuki Sodom & Kabuki Nadeshiko

May actually happen and be awesome

[Touchdown]

Dammit! Stop quoting that stupid plot guide like it’s dogma. You didn’t even understand the meaning:

The statement “No amines are canon” was written at a time when there really were no canon animes…

Wrong, prove Capcom affirms what you are stating?
Not to mention you pick a SF4 aftermath trailer, events that happen after SF4 tournament. The in game plot guide states what happened before the SF4 tournament and builds on from it.

Sigh, I’ll leave this here…

*"Basically the points from Capcom Japan concerning Gouki defeating Vega at the end of SF2 that started in Super Street Fighter 2 X and continued through the release of Third Strike have not in any way been challenged or cancelled with anything from the SF4 series. This is a crude outline of the points made public:

**SSF2X 1994- Gouki makes his debut in the gameplay with taking out Vega but not consistently killing him.

SFZ3 1998- In Adon’s ending we’re shown Vega taken out and massacred by Gouki from behind.

SF3 3S 1999- A new character relations chart is released in Gamest issue #255 indicating that by the end of SF2 Gouki annihilates Vega, who becomes a flaming powder by the time Ryu reaches the end of the tournament.

All About Capcom Fighting Games 1987-2000- This massive sourcebook is published and discloses that the way Vega is axed at the end of SF2 is the way portrayed in Adon’s Z3 ending.**

SF4 2008/2009- Gouki’s win quote to Vega indicates that all it took for Gouki to stop Vega’s scheme for capturing and using Ryu at the end of SF2 was just to know that Gouki’s plans for Ryu and Vega’s plans for him would conflict. Vega’s win quote to Gouki on the other hand takes a look at Vega purposely getting his SF2 body caught and massacred in order to later intimately utilize Gouki’s satsui no hadou, which is what BLECE does later on. So that he himself won’t be annihilated, Vega soul-jumps into one of numerous spare Seth bodies until his SF4 body is mostly ready.

The fact that Vega survives SF2 by the same soul-jumping method that he used at the end of the Zero series was confirmed by Ono-san via interview shortly after Vega was revealed as playable in SF4. Since that’s the case, Vega would’ve had to be pressured to soul-jump and abandon his SF2 body, which is what Gouki still has currently done- unexpectedly crash the end of the SF2 tournament. Thus SF4 info builds on what’s been previously stated and confirmed from Capcom Japan and the earlier Street Fighter games".*

vasili10

[DarthEnder]

Good luck using Vasili10 as your source. I’m sure it’ll go over well.

[Doctrine_Dark]

So Bison got SGS’d on purpose so he could utilize the Satsui no Hado later? What in the actual fuck?!

[ES_Curse]

That was the exact plot guide he told you not to quote…

[bakfromon]

Good luck using Vasili10 as your source. I’m sure it’ll go over well.

You know what… I’ll quote Vasili as well, but not on the basis of using him as proof, but for comparisons.
I noticed he had made a post a long time ago concerning the AASFZ3 book, so I thought I would compare some of my translations to his. Let’s just start simple with the fashion and fighting styles of Ryu and Ken.

Ryu

Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

Ryu from AASFZ3

Fighting Style

For him to aim at the true fighting style, he does not adhere to any single fighting system. If the sake is to elevate one’s own self, to constructively take in also techniques from other systems, he goes about appending them in his own special way. This being the result as so-called karate, judo, tae kwon do all kinds of fighting moves mixed, he’s inventing a characteristic fighting style.

Fashion Style

Desiring an unknown strength, he takes up living as a fighting stylist, the matter spawned is the heart’s agitation for unnecessary adornment. Gloves to protect the fists and, wearing on his body a headband stiffened with feelings, there’s no subject of dressing up in excess. With his uniform’s sleeves being cut down, and for the sake of likely swinging his fist, the drawback of the time that clothing would be caught is probably the matter of consideration.

My translation

Fighting Style:
真格闘家 を 目指す彼 は 、 ひとつ の 格闘流派 に 固執 する こと は し ない 。 みずから を 高める た め で あれ ば 、 他流派 の 技 も 積極的 に 取り入れ、自分 なり の アレンジ を 加え て いく。 それ が 結果 として 空手、柔道、 テコンドー といった 各種格闘技 を ミックスした 、 独自 の 格闘 スタイル を 作 り 出し て いる。

He is not able to stick to just one style to become the true martial artist. In order to enhance himself, he incorporates the skills of other arts into his own. He has created his unique mix of martial arts which combines Karate, Taekwondo, and Judo.

Fashion:
未知 の 強 さ を 求め、格闘家 として 生きる彼 に とっ て 、 不要 な 装飾 は 心 の 乱れ を 生む もと。 コブシを守るグローブ と、 気持ち を 引きしめる ハチマキを身に つけて いる が 、 過度 に 着飾る こと は ない。 道着 の ソデを切り落とし て ある の は、 コブシ を 振り やすく する ため と 、 衣服 を つかま れ た とき の 不利 を 考慮 し て の こと だろ う。

Demanding untapped strength has driven him to live as a martial artist, therefore, he does not wear any unnecessary or excessive decoration that would disrupt his focus. He wears gloves to protect his fists, and a headband to brace his thoughts. The sleeves are cut off his gi to make it easier to swing his fists, also considering the disadvantages of being able to grab the clothing.

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Ken

Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

Ken from AASFZ3

Fighting Style

From the fact of loading up on training under the same master (Gouken), Ryu and Ken’s fighting style is with many common features. However, to turn an eye towards the moves one-by-one and, you come to realize the impression and qualities are subtley different. The flashy tumble jigoku guruma and, from a shoryuken accompanied by flame, Ken’s foundation to a flowing fighting spectacle surely is to appreciate.

Fashion Style

With him desiring luster within the battle, he doesn’t forget for even his person to become brightness. The targeted crimson uniform expressed directly at his passion to fighting, blond long hair drifts about the pan-American fighting king’s dignity. Seemingly overconspicuous his attire likely appears, particularly not feeling a non-harmony sense, from only his real ability it’s likely not just that.

My tanslation

Fighting Style:
同じ師匠 ( ゴウケン ) の もと で 修行 を 積ん で いたこと から 、 リュウ と ケン の 格闘 スタイル に は 共通点 が 多い。 しかし 、 ひとつひとつ の 技 に 目 を 向ける と 、 型 や 性質 に 微妙 な ちがい が ある こと に 気づく ハデ に 転がる地獄車 や 、 炎 を と も なう 昇龍拳 から は、ケン の 根底 に 流れる格闘観 が 感じ取れる はず だ。

The fighting style Ken has gained is similar to Ryu’s, given the fact that they trained under the same master (Gouken). However, there are some subtle differences in the nature of techniques, such as flashy hell cartwheels and a flaming Shoryuken, an underlying sense of the urge to fight overflows out of Ken.

Fashion:
闘い の なかに華を求める彼 は、身なりにも明るさを忘れ ない。 まとっ た 真紅 の 道着 は 格闘 へ の 情熱 を 端的 に 表わし、 ブロンド の 長髪 は 全米格闘王 の 貫禄 を ただよわ せる。目立ち すぎ の よ う に 思える服装 が、 とくに 違和感 を 感じ させ な いの は、 それ だけ の 実力 が ともなっ て いる から な の だろ う。

He never forgets to dress bright during his fights so he can obtain a bloom. His crimson gi represents his passions, and his long flowing blonde hair exudes the dignity of the U.S Fighting Champ. He doesn’t dress too prominently as not to feel uncomfortable, as his abilities are accompanied with the ease of movement.

Granted both of ours are probably wrong in many senses, but just comparing the two you can see obvious parallels. Although, just compare the legibility and you’ll find that reading a Vasili translation is almost like reading a riddle.

[YagamiFire]

I swear to God, Vasili’s translations read like KOF Engrish run through babelfish into Japanese…then back into English via Google-Translate.

I said his translations were dogshit years ago and I stand by that.

[ToreyBeans]

Vasili? Man we don’t mention that name much. We were doing just fine on our own. Anyway Bakfromon, I’ll take your absolute worst translation over Vasili’s best 10 days out of the week (BTW, keep up the good work). He dragged Warrior’s Fate into despair and lots of us had no idea. Things could’ve been different if 1) his translations made actual sense 2) he wasn’t a jerk to so many people and 3) didn’t try to make his conjecture canon. But yeah, I like this new friendlier community spot we’re in. Now, back to lurk mode…

[mikros]

About the story, haven’t they said that it’s 1-2 hours long? I don’t know if that includes the fighting time, though.

[DarthEnder]

About the story, haven’t they said that it’s 1-2 hours long? I don’t know if that includes the fighting time, though.

They said it was over an hour of cinematics, NOT including fight time.

[YagamiFire]

About the story, haven’t they said that it’s 1-2 hours long? I don’t know if that includes the fighting time, though.

They said it was over an hour of cinematics, NOT including fight time.

I’m hoping it’ll have an equal amount of fight time.

[Doctrine_Dark]

The Life and Death(s) of Charlie Nash was such a great read. That short little story had everything.

I really hope Nash’s revival is pretty similar to what was told there.

I guess the only difference would be:

Spoiler

Nash is revived because the Psycho Power used in his brainwashing preserved his mind, giving the Secret Society a chance to bring him back with their technology. Since he never became Agent Shadow in the main games, his source of power will have to be something else. Most likely a power from the Secret Society.

[DarthEnder]

Spoiler

Nash is revived because the Psycho Power used in his brainwashing preserved his mind, giving the Secret Society a chance to bring him back with their technology. Since he never became Agent Shadow in the main games, his source of power will have to be something else. Most likely a power from the Secret Society.

Well…[details=Spoiler]They could have explained it that he absorbed a bunch of psycho power from being next to the psycho drive when it exploded.

Unfortunately, that was his Alpha 3 death, which they’ve seemingly gotten rid of. And his Alpha 2 death doesn’t have any of that.[/details]

[DRW]

Wrong, prove Capcom affirms what you are stating?

I explained this in my previous post. It’s not my fault that you only quote one small passage from it and ignore the rest. I will not repeat everything.

Not to mention you pick a SF4 aftermath trailer, events that happen after SF4 tournament.

This statement is already false since those trailers show what happens after SF2, not SF4.
And I already explained in length why it is unlikely that the aftermath of SF2 from the trailer is supposed to play after a scene where Bison was actually attacked by Akuma and where the SF2 game endings happened.

The in game plot guide states what happened before the SF4 tournament and builds on from it.

The plot guide is a fan project and Vasili is an idiot.

Here, let me show you two things that are wrong in his guide:
Source: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/722788-ultra-street-fighter-iv/faqs/69921

“His name in the actual canon still isn’t Charlie Nash, though.”

Yes, it is. It has been confirmed in one of Guile’s anime cutscenes in SF4 where they show Charlie’s dog tags that show the complete name. Vasili claimed this is a non-canon “easter egg”, but that’s bullshit: The SF5 trailer (not the cinematic one, the first one) showed the dog tags as well. And in Bison’s story mode, C. Viper says Charlie’s full name, even in Japanese. So, Vasili is wrong and has been wrong.
Shall I link you these three sources (Guile’s cutscene, SF5 trailer and Bison SF5 story mode), including the exact second where it appears on the screen or do you remember that stuff yourself?

Another example:

“Nash- Doesn’t die until SFZ3”

In SF5, it is undeniable that Charlie “died” like in his SFA2 ending, not like in his SFA3 ending. But this isn’t anything new. SF4 already alluded to this fact with Charlie being shown in Guile’s cutscenes falling down or being shown after he was shot in the back. So, the SFA3 Charlie dying in an explosion ending was already retconned by the time of SF4.
In fact, people on this very forum concluded that Charlie’s SFA2 ending is the new canon version of his supposed death month before SF5 came out. But Vasili still went by Guile’s SFA3 ending, despite his latest plot guide version including all SF4 versions up to USF4.

Also, he claimed that Gouken isn’t really alive, based on…nothing in particular. And again, he got his ass kicked by Ryu’s SF5 story mode.

So, don’t ever cite me the plot guide of the idiotic person who also has been exposed as a liar who tries to include his personal fan fiction into the “Street Fighter” canon instead of representing the sources faithfully.

If you want to prove anything, show me the actual sources that Vasili claims to refer to. For example, if Ono confirmed something in an interview, show me a video or a magazine article or a website article of a magazine with Ono’s interview and we’ll talk. Don’t show me a text by Vasili saying “Ono said this and that.”

[bakfromon]

Forgot to add Guile’s EX story along with his SF2 entry. It’s basically just a small synopsis of his SF2 background.

Guile SFEX bio
親友 の 無念 を 胸 に 秘める軍人 が い た 。 ナッシュ の 死 を 知っ た ガイル が 、 心 に 深く刻み つ け た もの 。 それ は 、 復讐 の 2 文字 だっ た 。 愛する妻 も 娘 も 捨て 、 友 の 遺志 によって のみ 生き よう と する ガイル 。 ベガ 、 シャドルー 。 遺さ れ た 言葉 に 駆り立て られ 、 ガイルは 闘い へ お も むく 。 そこは 銃音も 爆音も ない 、 静かなる 戦場。友 が 見 た “ 真実 ” は 、 その 果て に ある 。

The military man who conceals the sorrow of the loss of his best friend in his heart. The knowledge of Nash’s death incrementally carves itself deep into his mind. After that, the only 2 things he could think about were vengeance and his enemy. Guile discards both his loving wife and daughter, only so that he may achieve his friend’s final will. Vega, Shadaloo. These bereaved words spur Guile to proceed to fight. There is no roar of gunfire, as the battlefield remains silent. His friend faced the “reality” as a consequence.

Next, I figure I’d jump around and do Chun’s then Geif to finish up the SF2/SFEX bio crossover I’m doing. Then move on to the other characters like Sim and Blanka and others, I’ll probably add their EX2 and EX2 plus entries from AAC along with them…

@“Doctrine Dark” if you could compile one more album with just the canon characters that appear in SFEX series. I know I’ve already done a few for Vega and M. Bison, but if you could just make an album and leave them all in one spot that would be great.