The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

[Hawkingbird]

The thing is if you don’t change than things start getting stale. Ryu is still struggling with the SnH AGAIN when that was his main issue in Alpha and SFIV. Chun-Li still going after Shadaloo and avenging her father’s death which has been her shtick since she debuted. Yagami wants there to be some sort of progression for these characters.

And I’m fine with that, as long as the progression is actually good. If the thing that the character progresses to is actually worse than the thing they were doing before, then I’d have preferred they just rehash the better thing.

And for the record, killing characters or pretending that they don’t exist does not equal progression. See: SF3.

What SF needs in an Edo Tensei-user. So that they can kill off characters, but have an excuse for them to still be playable characters. And Ghost Goutetsu up there makes me wonder if that’s not actually a possibility.

We’ll never know if the change would have been for the worst since they never went through with it.

I would much rather have something good be rehashed, than have something new that’s bad. New just for the sake of BEING new is fucking retarded.

The thing is if you don’t change than things start getting stale. Ryu is still struggling with the SnH AGAIN when that was his main issue in Alpha and SFIV. Chun-Li still going after Shadaloo and avenging her father’s death which has been her shtick since she debuted. Yagami wants there to be some sort of progression for these characters.

If I may interject, Chun-Li does go through a progression. Character-wise, she goes from a headstrong, determined, and emotionally driven rookie, to a strong, experienced, independent interpol agent. And later adapting the motherly role in 3S.

Yes, her main motive for taking down Shadaloo is to avenge her father, but after shadaloo’s fall, she goes on to raise kids. I feel if anything, SFV story is going to do a lot for Chun-li’s progression because, assuming that this is Shadaloo’s fall, then We’ll see how Chun-li does after her life long goal of avenging her father has been avenged, and maybe we’ll see a tie in with Li-Fen as well, which would allow her to jump out of the revenge business and into taking care of little kids.

Thing is we never see her transition into that role. SFV gives Li-Fen a formal introduction but we don’t know her circumstances and how she came under Chun’s care. An abrupt change of status quo is not development.

[mykka]

If I may interject, Chun-Li does go through a progression. Character-wise, she goes from a headstrong, determined, and emotionally driven rookie, to a strong, experienced, independent interpol agent. And later adapting the motherly role in 3S.

Yes, her main motive for taking down Shadaloo is to avenge her father, but after shadaloo’s fall, she goes on to raise kids. I feel if anything, SFV story is going to do a lot for Chun-li’s progression because, assuming that this is Shadaloo’s fall, then We’ll see how Chun-li does after her life long goal of avenging her father has been avenged, and maybe we’ll see a tie in with Li-Fen as well, which would allow her to jump out of the revenge business and into taking care of little kids.

I wonder if she’ll finally win a fight… she seems to get beat up in every SF

[AriesWarlock]

Chun-li with a black eye, man, I wish that would have made it in.

I find most of the new dolls ridiculous. The pink-haired one with a mini-skirt, really? That’s some serious organization you are running there, Bison.

[Chun-Li_Forever]

The thing is if you don’t change than things start getting stale. Ryu is still struggling with the SnH AGAIN when that was his main issue in Alpha and SFIV. Chun-Li still going after Shadaloo and avenging her father’s death which has been her shtick since she debuted. Yagami wants there to be some sort of progression for these characters.

And I’m fine with that, as long as the progression is actually good. If the thing that the character progresses to is actually worse than the thing they were doing before, then I’d have preferred they just rehash the better thing.

And for the record, killing characters or pretending that they don’t exist does not equal progression. See: SF3.

What SF needs in an Edo Tensei-user. So that they can kill off characters, but have an excuse for them to still be playable characters. And Ghost Goutetsu up there makes me wonder if that’s not actually a possibility.

We’ll never know if the change would have been for the worst since they never went through with it.

I would much rather have something good be rehashed, than have something new that’s bad. New just for the sake of BEING new is fucking retarded.

The thing is if you don’t change than things start getting stale. Ryu is still struggling with the SnH AGAIN when that was his main issue in Alpha and SFIV. Chun-Li still going after Shadaloo and avenging her father’s death which has been her shtick since she debuted. Yagami wants there to be some sort of progression for these characters.

If I may interject, Chun-Li does go through a progression. Character-wise, she goes from a headstrong, determined, and emotionally driven rookie, to a strong, experienced, independent interpol agent. And later adapting the motherly role in 3S.

Yes, her main motive for taking down Shadaloo is to avenge her father, but after shadaloo’s fall, she goes on to raise kids. I feel if anything, SFV story is going to do a lot for Chun-li’s progression because, assuming that this is Shadaloo’s fall, then We’ll see how Chun-li does after her life long goal of avenging her father has been avenged, and maybe we’ll see a tie in with Li-Fen as well, which would allow her to jump out of the revenge business and into taking care of little kids.

Thing is we never see her transition into that role. SFV gives Li-Fen a formal introduction but we don’t know her circumstances and how she came under Chun’s care. An abrupt change of status quo is not development.

Which is why I think SFV would be the perfect opportunity to show that transition. There are so many reason why Chun-li takes in Li-Fen as her own. I know her character story failed to give us any kind of backstory for her. But maybe (and this is just me speculating) I think Chun-Li sees a little bit of herself in Li-Fen. Maybe her family was killed (unintentionally) by Shadaloo, leaving her orphaned. Because Chun-Li never got to experience a full father/daughter relationship, and since we know nothing about Chun-li’s mother, I feel Chun-Li took in Li-Fen to give her the parenting that Chun-li never got to fully experience.

I don’t think it’s gonna be something as simple as in “Oh, I just defeated Shadaloo, daddy’s death has been avenged, what am I gonna do now? I KNOW! It’s take care of kids”, nothing like that. But maybe this could be the closing chapter in Chun-Li’s quest for vengeance against Shadaloo. But when one story closes, another one opens for new possibilities.

I wonder if she’ll finally win a fight… she seems to get beat up in every SF

Well, yeah, not all the time.

SF Alpha Ending: She was a rookie detective going up against the Mighty M. Bison. Never stood a chance. rather surprising how she came out of that alive.

SF Alpha movie: Easily beaten by a jacked freak who’s power level was just WAY above hers.

SFII Movie: it was a brutal fight on both ends receiving and giving

Juri OVA: Juri was a new fighter who caught Chun-Li off guard when she was more concerned about the safety for the kid than her own.

I think SFV is where they are going to actually show more of Chun-li winning fights in the story (hopefully a lot if she is the main character in the story and if she is the “Legendary legs” who ends shdaloo.)

I’m calling it. Final battle (or second to last battle) Chun-Li v. M. Bison. Chun-Li gets beaten up before summoning the last of her will to defeat Bison once and for all. (Kind of like the Cassie cage v. Corrupted Shinnok ending)

[bakfromon]

I find most of the new dolls ridiculous. The pink-haired one with a mini-skirt, really? That’s some serious organization you are running there, Bison.

Those are all of Fang’s new upgrades to the Dolls. He had to take them all on a shopping spree to cheer them up after they got their asses handed to them by Juri.

[FengShuiEnergy]

I find most of the new dolls ridiculous. The pink-haired one with a mini-skirt, really? That’s some serious organization you are running there, Bison.

Those are all of Fang’s new upgrades to the Dolls. He had to take them all on a shopping spree to cheer them up after they got their asses handed to them by Juri.

Shoulda just taken them out for fries and burgers. Let them pour on that salt. Shoula listened to their venting. Get to know them. Isn’t that what your supposed to do?

[Gemakai]

Honestly, is anyone surprised by Bison or FANG giving the dolls ridiculous outfits?

They’re kind of ass holes to begin with and this seems up their alley.

[FengShuiEnergy]

Honestly, is anyone surprised by Bison or FANG giving the dolls ridiculous outfits?

They’re kind of ass holes to begin with and this seems up their alley.

You may be an evil, scheming, downright bastard. But everyone needs some morale boosting.

[mykka]

Ok hopefully this one is a little more readable and I re-scanned the Ryu one so you got a better look at the stages.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1636/25182982041_0baf3d2dbe_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1552/24645496334_768c12d732_o.jpg

Bit of a shame to come up with some great concept art for the top stage and then build it only to scrap it. Hopefully it shows up down the road?

Are those doll descriptions above each one?

[YagamiFire]

Regarding that Ryu post-SnH design…

That scarring REALLY reminds me of the damage an improper shoryuken caused to Ryu in the Street Fighter II manga by Kanzaki. His usage of it damaged his own arm.

Call-back?

[DarthEnder]

We’ll never know if the change would have been for the worst since they never went through with it.

I mean, I can tell just from those couple images that I didn’t like it.

But, like I said, I ALSO didn’t like SF4/5’s style. They’re BOTH bad directions imho.

Alpha 3’s art style in GGXrd’s engine. That’s what they should have done.

[mikros]

I think SFV is where they are going to actually show more of Chun-li winning fights in the story (hopefully a lot if she is the main character in the story and if she is the “Legendary legs” who ends shdaloo.)

I’m calling it. Final battle (or second to last battle) Chun-Li v. M. Bison. Chun-Li gets beaten up before summoning the last of her will to defeat Bison once and for all.

But, that would be a good story, so we can bet that Capcom discarded it quickly if it ever crossed their minds by accident.

I fear that Capcom is more comfortable with having her play a support role (and they’ll make sure she gets her ass kicked whenever she tries to do something?). We have barely seen her in the story trailer and game intro, and her prologue doesn’t seem to be hyping anything to come.

PS: also she didn’t perform too well in Birdie’s story, so that’s not a good start.

[Xvideos]

Now that Shadow Charlie is canon, I wonder… does this mean Dark Sakura, Shadow Lady, Cyber Akuma, and Mech Zangief will become canon as well instead of just alternate costumes? LOL

[YagamiFire]

We’ll never know if the change would have been for the worst since they never went through with it.

I mean, I can tell just from those couple images that I didn’t like it.

But, like I said, I ALSO didn’t like SF4/5’s style. They’re BOTH bad directions imho.

Alpha 3’s art style in GGXrd’s engine. That’s what they should have done.

I’d fly to Japan and jump off Capcom headquarters to Bison head-stomp Ono for something that looked like that.

[Darc_Requiem]

@DGSimo, when you have time, please scan the Bengus interview.

Essential fact: Noembelu, together with Juli, has the biggest breast size of the Dolls.

I’m curious what Bengus says in the interview. His art is REALLY uneven in the prologues. Chun Li’s is the worst offender. His first few drawings of Chun and Li-Fen are great. Then you get that awful Chun and Vega drawing…WTF

[bakfromon]

Ok hopefully this one is a little more readable and I re-scanned the Ryu one so you got a better look at the stages.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1636/25182982041_0baf3d2dbe_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1552/24645496334_768c12d732_o.jpg

Bit of a shame to come up with some great concept art for the top stage and then build it only to scrap it. Hopefully it shows up down the road?

Are those doll descriptions above each one?

It’s actually a horoscope (星占い) made by Fang that turns each of the Dolls into a particular horoscope for the month they represent.

[Hawkingbird]

Now that Shadow Charlie is canon, I wonder… does this mean Dark Sakura, Shadow Lady, Cyber Akuma, and Mech Zangief will become canon as well instead of just alternate costumes? LOL

There’s no Shadow Charlie. He didn’t get brainwashed and modify into working for Shadaloo.

[bakfromon]

Now that Shadow Charlie is canon, I wonder… does this mean Dark Sakura, Shadow Lady, Cyber Akuma, and Mech Zangief will become canon as well instead of just alternate costumes? LOL

Shadow Lady is basically Evil Chun Li who is virtually Juri.

[DarthEnder]

Now that Shadow Charlie is canon, I wonder… does this mean Dark Sakura, Shadow Lady, Cyber Akuma, and Mech Zangief will become canon as well instead of just alternate costumes? LOL

The difference between Charlie in this game and actual Shadow Charlie is this though…there’s no NORMAL Charlie anymore.

I don’t actually have a problem with characters changing like that. What I have a problem with is alternate versions of the same character that make one character take up multiple spots on the roster, and some of those versions aren’t even real in the story.

If Capcom has such a boner for Evil Ryu, then they should fucking make Ryu evil already. The problem is when you have Ryu AND Evil Ryu on the roster, and Evil Ryu doesn’t even actually exist.

Also, I feel like those kinds of characters are a relic of the past. Those kinds of things are more fitting for alt costumes these days than actual separate characters.

[Daemos]

Now that Shadow Charlie is canon, I wonder… does this mean Dark Sakura, Shadow Lady, Cyber Akuma, and Mech Zangief will become canon as well instead of just alternate costumes? LOL

Shadow Charlie ≠ SF5 Nash

And no to all of them. Having to deal with Evil Ryu and Oni was enough.