The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

re: Ed

Thanks. COuldn’t remember which story he showed up in. Yeah, I suspected he was the boy in 'Rog’s ending, though I wasn’t sure if any other stories talked about. But where did his name come from? I don’t recall him ever being named.

Also, does he have an accelerated growth? The gap between SFIV and SFV can’t be that big for the boy to have grown so much.

Darth: re Seth/Abel

Going by what I was told pre-SFIV, Abel/Seth and others are replacement bodies. They were the replacement for the DOLL project - Last I checked, they’re organic, but created artificially instead of using enhanced kidnapped children (LOL, did we ever get an explanation for why Bison would want backup bodies in the form of little girls? Or was it just specifically Cammy that was a backup, while the others were mere high-level shock troops?).

Seth, however, did… something to himself after becoming aware and taking over S.I.N. To this day I’m still not sure what exactly he did. I’m not sure if he altered his body into that of a cyborg, or if he placed his mind into a fully cybernetic body, or what. The whole “Tanden Engine” thing is clearly an artificial construct that Seth uses to enhance his power and was not part of the original organic body template that Abel has (Abel’s body has scars; it wouldn’t make sense if he was a cyborg at any point).

RE: Nash

I think it’s safe to assume that Nash is being used by the Secret Society to either take out M.Bison in Shadaloo or at least assess the latter’s capabilities. I don’t think the SS hate or fear Bison per se; they’re probably just curious as to what he’s up to. Maybe if/when they realise the extent of the Bison’s plans is when Urien steps in and says “You’re fucking with my plans, this shit’s gotta stop”. I suspect that Urien isn’t openly rebelling against Gill at this point (i.e. I’ll bet it will be Gill himself who sends Urien out to handle his personally), but I don’t doubt he’s harbouring resentment all now and if we’re lucky we might even see the seeds of him planning to break away in the future.

BTW, anyone else feel that SF3 series is going to be heavily modified if not retconned out? If they did it to SF2 with SFA3 now effectively merging with SF2/replacing it, I don’t see why SFV wouldn’t do the same. SFV could very well be “Street Fighter Beta”, a fan-name we (?) used to call the mythical game between SF2 and SF3 to explain stuff that went on in-between the main entries as Alpha did between SF1 and SF2, as opposed to SFV “merely” being a sequel to SFIV, like how SFIV is essentially an sequel to SF2/SFA3. In other words, SFV may set up SF3 in a way that Alpha did for SF2 (before eventually becoming it).

Hell, if they continue to add to SFV’s story long enough, it may just indeed ultimately replace New Generation entirely. Depends on what characters they add I guess. But if we were get Oro, Necro, Twelve, and Gill - we’re already getting Alex, Ibuki and Urien - we would have enough of the main players to remake SF3’s story (Dudley, Sean, Makoto, Yun/Yang and the rest aren’t nearly as important story-wise, but of course still be eventually be added to the game).

I love seeing you post here @Ultima , it feels just like old times. <3

What would everyone here think if it was NOT Illuminati but some other new organization that revived Nash? I hate such a possbility to be true, but there’s a chance that they might just come up with a new organization altogether.

I remember in really old texts about Bison they said that he was one of his masters three students.

I was always hoping that they would eventually reveal that Urien and Gill were the other two students, and that Bison actually used to be part of the Illuminati, but, like Urien, didn’t want to follow the society’s plans, but, unlike Urien, instead of trying to take over from the inside, left to form his own organization to try and take the world for itself.

I wouldn’t have a problem with that if they hadn’t given him the Illuminati forehead gem. But since they did, it had better be the Illuminati.

Next thing you know Capcom announces Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game and Captain Sawada to be canon

I’m sure that won’t happen. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he appeared in Guile’s prologue story when it gets added. I’m not sure why he’d be on the chart otherwise.

Although…Delta Red is on that chart, and they never appeared in Cammy’s…

Does this increase our chances to get Blade? If so…do it!!!

Unlikely. The bindi on Nash, Nash’s artwork referencing the priests in Gill’s Second Impact stage, plus the fact that Urien is 100% coming, all points to the Secret Society being involved here. To what end would it serve making it a new group? That would be a Vince Russo-type bullshit swerve, and not even Capcom would do that.

Watch as Helen turns out to be Kolin’s sister or her secretary or something.

DAEMOS:

Heh yeah. I went to the main SF story thread to post originally, but it seems this one has all the action now (66 pages deep already, sheesh). Makes sense I guess. Plus, unlike the last one (last two actually), maybe this one will stay in its relevant forum!

You fools. Sawada IS Blade! After it’s revealed that he gunned down Nash, he puts on a helmet and joins Shadaloo full time!

Also…

What’s the over under on the apparently immortal Nash having to be decapitated by Bison so that Bison can absorb his quickening and finally put an end to him?

“You talk funny, Nash. Where you from?”

I like this idea. Shadowloo being an offshoot of the secret society helps tie the two organizations together.

Has anyone peeped this?
Link

Shadaloo Fighting Institute : Coming Soon.

Anyway there’s a picture of Fang at the bottom of the page spouting something off in a scrolling text bubble, of course it’s in Japanese. It’s really long and an eye sore to read all at one time but I managed to see something mentioned about the Dolls.
@TheIlluminati @“The Lone Dragon” or anyone fluent in Japanese would like to provide more suitable translations feel free because it’s a lot of jumbled info.

Oh and Fang also mentions something about the Shadaloo grunts wearing Psycho Power receivers in their helmets, and that they would be changing their outfits from a Mustard color to a Blue color, apparently this happens every 4 years. They’re also learning special techniques like “Shadaloo Punch” and “Shadaloo Kick”.

The whole thing is an eye sore to look at but if anyone want to feel free I’ll leave the full transcript below.

Be Warned of wall of unfiltered Engrish

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And if you made it this far here’s the Japanese transcript if anyone skilled enough would like to properly translate.

[details=Spoiler]ニーシシシシッ・・・ 計画の準備は順調順調っ! んんんっ? おやっ アナタは一体誰デスか? ワタシは偉大なるシャドルーのナンバー2 F.A.N.G様デスぞ ・・・知らない? なるほどデス なるほどデス 新しく入ったシャドルー兵の方デスねェ はじめからそう言ったら良いデスよ ここは 我らがベガ様のための研究施設デス 世界中のありとあらゆる格闘家の情報が集約されるデータベースデス ウヒヒヒ あの格闘家の情報や 忌々しいあの女刑事や 筋肉ムキムキのあのレスラーについても 詳しく解ったり 解らなかったりするのデス 勿論 我々シャドルーの情報もこちらから見つけ出すことが出来るデショね 彼を知り己を知れば百戦殆うからず とはこのことデス ベガ様の野望達成のために キリキリ働くと良いデスよ あの装置と あの計画 そしてこの強力なデータベースさえあれば 世界征服など 赤子の手を捻るよりカンタンなのデス 朝飯前なのデス 飯・・・と言えば 食事はもう済ませましたか? 今なら地下13階のシャ員食堂【Shadaloo Cafeteria】でカレーフェアをやっているデス ワタシはカレーがあまり好きではないのデスが サイコパワー入りで元気溌剌 力がみなぎってくるそうデスよ 食後はゆっくり休んでから トレーニング施設に行くといいデス シャドルー修練場四十八房で気力体力を ガンガンに鍛えるといいデス 日頃の努力を怠らないことが 信頼と実績を生み出すのデス 余裕をこいて怠惰な生活を送っていると あのバイソンの様に 無能な輩になってしまうデス あんな奴が四天王だなんて いまだに信じられないデスよ ベガ様も考え直した方が良いデスよ パンチ力は世界一? そんなモノは このF.A.N.G様の無敵の毒で溶かしてやるデスよ! 仮面をつけたキザな野郎も気に喰わないデス 人を見下した態度は許せないデス! そもそもベガ様に対する忠誠心が足りないのデス! ベガ様に尽くしてこそ 真のシャドー兵デス  さぁ アナタもこの【シャドルー格闘家研究所】で最強のシャドルー兵を目指すデス! んんッ?まだオープンしていない? これは失礼しましたデス もう暫し 待っていただければ きっと無敵のデータベースが完成するデス それまで ストーリーモードでファイトマネーを稼いで 追加キャラクターGETの準備をしておいていると良いデス どんな追加キャラクターが来ても このF.A.N.G様が無敵であることに 変わりは無いんデスがね つまりワタシがナンバー1なのデス!! ・・・・・・ ああ チガウチガウ ベガ様が1番なので ワタシは 2番デス! 最強無敵の2番デスよ! 危ない危ない 縁起が悪いデス ん? どうやったら強くなれる? それは簡単な事デスよ 毒手を極めたら良いのデス ワタシのVスキルである二升毒は なんとガード不能なのデス ゆっくり飛んでいくので 追いかけてヨシ 牽制として使うもヨシ デスよ 相手の体力をジワジワ奪いつつ やや離れて 二死球や双頭蛇で近づかれないよう チクチク闘うと良いデス ん?そういうことじゃない? どういう事デスか! 毒手を学びたくないなら オンライン対戦で 世界中の相手と対戦したら良いデス! 実戦が強くなるための一番の近道デスよ! 無論戦う前にキャラクターについて情報収集をした方が良いデス キャラクターだけでなく 対戦相手の癖や特徴を掴んでいたほうが 面白いし 有利に戦えるデスよ そんな 新人シャドルー兵のアナタのための【シャドルー格闘家研究所】!  これさえあれば 上級シャドルー兵への昇進待ったナシ!デスぞ まだ 見せられないデスが もうちょっとデス! もうちょっと待つのデス! まっている間 我々が所属するシャドルーについてご説明するデス 世界各地で暗躍する秘密結社であることは きっとご存じだと思っているのデスが 優秀なエンジニアやプログラマーも多数所属していますデス サイコパワーの有効利用や 世界平和のために頑張っているデス 兵器開発はもちろん 人間の力を最大限に引き出す実験や 全く腐ることのない食品開発なども行っているデス お給料は専用通貨 ZENNY で支給 安心して世界征服に取り組むために 制服も 住居もすべて シャドルーで準備していますデス 制服と言えば 特徴的な肩アーマーデスね ベガ様のご衣裳を模した物になっておりますデス カラーコーディネートもバッチリで 4年に一度 カラーチェンジが行われますデス 今年 ちょうど切り替えのタイミングだったので さわやかなブルーになっているデス その前はシックな茶色 カラシっぽい色だったデス 制服に良く合う 帽子が用意されているデス 下級兵は 任務中 ヘルメット着用が義務付けられているデス 頭部の保護と サイコパワー受信機による 一時的身体強化が可能になっているデス 任務外では おしゃれな赤いベレー帽が用意されているデス あなたもきっと似合いますデスよ 任務と言えば シャドルー兵は戦闘することもあるデス 殴ったり 蹴ったりって 怖いデスよね〜  しかし! そんなアナタでも シャドルー式格闘術を学んでいればダイジョーブ! 一瞬 無気力に見える構えから 力強いタックル そして流れるような連携技 目の覚めるような鋭いパンチ このコンボが 伝説の【シャドルーパンチ】デス さらに 死んだ魚の様な目をして 相手を油断させ 回転しながら一気に上昇(ここには攻撃判定が無いデス) 落ちているコインを踏みつけるような重い蹴り これが【シャドルーキック】デス  中級昇格試験でマスター必須な技なので しっかり練習すると良いデス 戦闘で思い出したんデスが ベガ様の側近と言えば この素晴らしい F.A.N.G様でお馴染みの 四天王以外にも ベガ様親衛隊 Dollsという 小娘たちがいるんデス 特殊な戦闘訓練を受けているので なかなか腕の立つ奴らデス 機会があれば 稽古してもらうといいデショネ せっかくなんで メンバーを説明してあげまショ    はじめに ピンクの縦ロールが特徴的な【エネーロ】彼女がいちおうのリーダーデス 特殊任務の計画を練ったり 他のメンバーに指示だししたりする役目デスね 戦闘も出来ますので戦地に赴いて 直接指揮を取る事も多いみたいデス 声帯模写が得意で 敵を混乱させることが出来ますデス    次は【フェヴリエ】二丁のサブマシンガンを器用に使いこなす 銃火器の担当デス 口が物凄く悪いので 気を付けた方が良いデスよ    おかっぱ髪と眼鏡がチャームポイントの【メルツ】 彼女は情報操作 サイバー攻撃を得意としているデス 非力ながらも それなりに戦うことは出来る見たいデスよ こういうタイプが怒ったら 怖いんデスよねェ   【アプリーレ】医療キットを持ち歩き 仲間の救護を担当しているデス この F.A.N.G様謹製の 神経毒を支給してあるので いざとなったら 毒を使い攻撃してくるデショネ   【サツキ】ジャパニーズサムライスタイルの戦闘員デス 戦闘力はDollsでナンバー1デスね 愛刀ムラサメブレードの切れ味は ものすんごいらしいデス まぁ ワタシに刃向って来たら 毒で刀ごと溶かしてやりますデスけどね   【ユーリ】スナイピングアローを使う戦闘員デスね 前作で色々あったみたいデスが 無事にシャドルーに帰還し 世界征服に加担してますデス   【サンタム】こちらは槍を使った戦闘が得意な隊員デス 視力が良いので 高台から敵地を見渡し 効率よく任務を遂行する事が出来るのデス ゴールデンライオンタマリンのキキが相棒の様デスヨ   【ジウユー】と【ヤンユー】は双子デス ヌンチャクを使って闘う京劇風ペイントをしている方がジウユー 棍を使ってアクロバティックに戦う方がヤンユー見たいデス よく間違ってしまうデスよ    【ノウェンベル】Dollsのパワーキャラ担当デス 片手斧を二つ装備しているデス 両手に斧を持ち 回転しながら斬りつける攻撃が強烈デス 言葉少ない寡黙なヤツデス    最後は【ディカープリ】ベガ様のサイコパワーの影響を一番強く受けてる戦闘員デス 元Dollsのキラー・ビーとか言うヤツの事が嫌い?みたいデスよ ワタシは過去の事は全く知らないので何とも言えないデスけどね     ・・・と まぁ こんな個性的なメンバーがいるシャドルーに 勤務できてラッキーデスねェ 光栄に思うと良いデス ベガ様の加護の元 キリキリ世界征服を進めると良いデス 是非 お友達も誘ってくださいネ 解らないことはこの【シャドルー格闘家研究所】で学ぶと良いデス ああ まだ まだデス 完成してないデス もう少し待ってくださいデス ニシシシシシ

ニーシシシシッ・・・ 計画の準備は順調順調っ! んんんっ? おやっ アナタは一体誰デスか? ワタシは偉大なるシャドルーのナンバー2 F.A.N.G様デスぞ ・・・知らない? なるほどデス なるほどデス 新しく入ったシャドルー兵の方デスねェ はじめからそう言ったら良いデスよ ここは 我らがベガ様のための研究施設デス 世界中のありとあらゆる格闘家の情報が集約されるデータベースデス ウヒヒヒ あの格闘家の情報や 忌々しいあの女刑事や 筋肉ムキムキのあのレスラーについても 詳しく解ったり 解らなかったりするのデス 勿論 我々シャドルーの情報もこちらから見つけ出すことが出来るデショね 彼を知り己を知れば百戦殆うからず とはこのことデス ベガ様の野望達成のために キリキリ働くと良いデスよ あの装置と あの計画 そしてこの強力なデータベースさえあれば 世界征服など 赤子の手を捻るよりカンタンなのデス 朝飯前なのデス 飯・・・と言えば 食事はもう済ませましたか? 今なら地下13階のシャ員食堂【Shadaloo Cafeteria】でカレーフェアをやっているデス ワタシはカレーがあまり好きではないのデスが サイコパワー入りで元気溌剌 力がみなぎってくるそうデスよ 食後はゆっくり休んでから トレーニング施設に行くといいデス シャドルー修練場四十八房で気力体力を ガンガンに鍛えるといいデス 日頃の努力を怠らないことが 信頼と実績を生み出すのデス 余裕をこいて怠惰な生活を送っていると あのバイソンの様に 無能な輩になってしまうデス あんな奴が四天王だなんて いまだに信じられないデスよ ベガ様も考え直した方が良いデスよ パンチ力は世界一? そんなモノは このF.A.N.G様の無敵の毒で溶かしてやるデスよ! 仮面をつけたキザな野郎も気に喰わないデス 人を見下した態度は許せないデス! そもそもベガ様に対する忠誠心が足りないのデス! ベガ様に尽くしてこそ 真のシャドー兵デス  さぁ アナタもこの【シャドルー格闘家研究所】で最強のシャドルー兵を目指すデス! んんッ?まだオープンしていない? これは失礼しましたデス もう暫し 待っていただければ きっと無敵のデータベースが完成するデス それまで ストーリーモードでファイトマネーを稼いで 追加キャラクターGETの準備をしておいていると良いデス どんな追加キャラクターが来ても このF.A.N.G様が無敵であることに 変わりは無いんデスがね つまりワタシがナンバー1なのデス!! ・・・・・・ ああ チガウチガウ ベガ様が1番なので ワタシは 2番デス! 最強無敵の2番デスよ! 危ない危ない 縁起が悪いデス ん? どうやったら強くなれる? それは簡単な事デスよ 毒手を極めたら良いのデス ワタシのVスキルである二升毒は なんとガード不能なのデス ゆっくり飛んでいくので 追いかけてヨシ 牽制として使うもヨシ デスよ 相手の体力をジワジワ奪いつつ やや離れて 二死球や双頭蛇で近づかれないよう チクチク闘うと良いデス ん?そういうことじゃない? どういう事デスか! 毒手を学びたくないなら オンライン対戦で 世界中の相手と対戦したら良いデス! 実戦が強くなるための一番の近道デスよ! 無論戦う前にキャラクターについて情報収集をした方が良いデス キャラクターだけでなく 対戦相手の癖や特徴を掴んでいたほうが 面白いし 有利に戦えるデスよ そんな 新人シャドルー兵のアナタのための【シャドルー格闘家研究所】!  これさえあれば 上級シャドルー兵への昇進待ったナシ!デスぞ まだ 見せられないデスが もうちょっとデス! もうちょっと待つのデス! まっている間 我々が所属するシャドルーについてご説明するデス 世界各地で暗躍する秘密結社であることは きっとご存じだと思っているのデスが 優秀なエンジニアやプログラマーも多数所属していますデス サイコパワーの有効利用や 世界平和のために頑張っているデス 兵器開発はもちろん 人間の力を最大限に引き出す実験や 全く腐ることのない食品開発なども行っているデス お給料は専用通貨 ZENNY で支給 安心して世界征服に取り組むために 制服も 住居もすべて シャドルーで準備していますデス 制服と言えば 特徴的な肩アーマーデスね ベガ様のご衣裳を模した物になっておりますデス カラーコーディネートもバッチリで 4年に一度 カラーチェンジが行われますデス 今年 ちょうど切り替えのタイミングだったので さわやかなブルーになっているデス その前はシックな茶色 カラシっぽい色だったデス 制服に良く合う 帽子が用意されているデス 下級兵は 任務中 ヘルメット着用が義務付けられているデス 頭部の保護と サイコパワー受信機による 一時的身体強化が可能になっているデス 任務外では おしゃれな赤いベレー帽が用意されているデス あなたもきっと似合いますデスよ 任務と言えば シャドルー兵は戦闘することもあるデス 殴ったり 蹴ったりって 怖いデスよね〜  しかし! そんなアナタでも シャドルー式格闘術を学んでいればダイジョーブ! 一瞬 無気力に見える構えから 力強いタックル そして流れるような連携技 目の覚めるような鋭いパンチ このコンボが 伝説の【シャドルーパンチ】デス さらに 死んだ魚の様な目をして 相手を油断させ 回転しながら一気に上昇(ここには攻撃判定が無いデス) 落ちているコインを踏みつけるような重い蹴り これが【シャドルーキック】デス  中級昇格試験でマスター必須な技なので しっかり練習すると良いデス 戦闘で思い出したんデスが ベガ様の側近と言えば この素晴らしい F.A.N.G様でお馴染みの 四天王以外にも ベガ様親衛隊 Dollsという 小娘たちがいるんデス 特殊な戦闘訓練を受けているので なかなか腕の立つ奴らデス 機会があれば 稽古してもらうといいデショネ せっかくなんで メンバーを説明してあげまショ    はじめに ピンクの縦ロールが特徴的な【エネーロ】彼女がいちおうのリーダーデス 特殊任務の計画を練ったり 他のメンバーに指示だししたりする役目デスね 戦闘も出来ますので戦地に赴いて 直接指揮を取る事も多いみたいデス 声帯模写が得意で 敵を混乱させることが出来ますデス    次は【フェヴリエ】二丁のサブマシンガンを器用に使いこなす 銃火器の担当デス 口が物凄く悪いので 気を付けた方が良いデスよ    おかっぱ髪と眼鏡がチャームポイントの【メルツ】 彼女は情報操作 サイバー攻撃を得意としているデス 非力ながらも それなりに戦うことは出来る見たいデスよ こういうタイプが怒ったら 怖いんデスよねェ   【アプリーレ】医療キットを持ち歩き 仲間の救護を担当しているデス この F.A.N.G様謹製の 神経毒を支給してあるので いざとなったら 毒を使い攻撃してくるデショネ   【サツキ】ジャパニーズサムライスタイルの戦闘員デス 戦闘力はDollsでナンバー1デスね 愛刀ムラサメブレードの切れ味は ものすんごいらしいデス まぁ ワタシに刃向って来たら 毒で刀ごと溶かしてやりますデスけどね   【ユーリ】スナイピングアローを使う戦闘員デスね 前作で色々あったみたいデスが 無事にシャドルーに帰還し 世界征服に加担してますデス   【サンタム】こちらは槍を使った戦闘が得意な隊員デス 視力が良いので 高台から敵地を見渡し 効率よく任務を遂行する事が出来るのデス ゴールデンライオンタマリンのキキが相棒の様デスヨ   【ジウユー】と【ヤンユー】は双子デス ヌンチャクを使って闘う京劇風ペイントをしている方がジウユー 棍を使ってアクロバティックに戦う方がヤンユー見たいデス よく間違ってしまうデスよ    【ノウェンベル】Dollsのパワーキャラ担当デス 片手斧を二つ装備しているデス 両手に斧を持ち 回転しながら斬りつける攻撃が強烈デス 言葉少ない寡黙なヤツデス    最後は【ディカープリ】ベガ様のサイコパワーの影響を一番強く受けてる戦闘員デス 元Dollsのキラー・ビーとか言うヤツの事が嫌い?みたいデスよ ワタシは過去の事は全く知らないので何とも言えないデスけどね     ・・・と まぁ こんな個性的なメンバーがいるシャドルーに 勤務できてラッキーデスねェ 光栄に思うと良いデス ベガ様の加護の元 キリキリ世界征服を進めると良いデス 是非 お友達も誘ってくださいネ 解らないことはこの【シャドルー格闘家研究所】で学ぶと良いデス ああ まだ まだデス 完成してないデス もう少し待ってくださいデス ニシシシシシ[/details]
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re: Shadaloo offshoot of SS

I dislike the idea. For one, it cheapens Shadaloo as something Bison built from scratch. But also, it doesn’t make sense that the Secret Society, having operated in, well secret for 2000 years, would all of a sudden have no problem with a candidate going rogue and basically messing up the place, even if not directly in their name.

Bison training alongside Gill and Urien also doesn’t make sense from a timeline perspective. Barring another retcon, Bison formed Shadaloo twenty years before the events of SF2 (or was it SFA3? I forget at this point). Urien and Gill, however, with respect to their activities in SF3 seem to have come on the scene only recently, i.e. they should be much younger than Bison. True, we don’t know the ages of the characters involved, but there’s nothing to suggest that Gill and Urien are old enough to have trained alongside Bison 20+ years ago.

I can see Bison have trained alongside maybe Gill’s predecessor though. But still very unlikely and unnecessary. Nah, I suspect, much like Gouken’s daughter, that whole “Bison trained alongside two other students” thing has been lost to the dustbin of SF history.

I dunno, I think the theming fits in well with SF’s Hokuto No Ken inspirations.

Where Bison is Raoh, Gill is Toki, and Urien is Jagi. And there is no Kenshiro.

I considered it the idea of Bison being a renegade member of the Illuminati, that abandoned them to form his own thing. Although in my imagination such an event would’ve taken at least several decades before SF2, possibly even several lifetimes if Bison has been body switching. However, this treads on Urien’s story kinda. It also takes away from Shadaloo, giving credence to the Illuminati narrative at the expense of Bison.

I prefer Bison being his own thing (‘The Devil’ of the SF universe basically), and Gill/SS do their divine Eyes Wide Shut thing. I prefer to think that Shadaloo will be instrumental to the fulfillment of their prophecy, whether by sheer coincidence, their subtle influence, or both. I also prefer to think that Nash is a pawn in this and that the Illuminati never intend for him to actually do what he wants to do. Remember, Charlie’s superiors knew he was going after Shadaloo and Bison, but never intended for him to actually reach the man himself. That is when the kill order occurred.

Charlie will get to Bison, and the Illuminati won’t let him stop Bison’s plan. It doesn’t make sense for them to want to stop it and make enemies out of Bison - That is not how they work. They subtle and clandestine, they play all sides to reach their one goal They have been working towards their revelation for 2000 years. They are not gonna fuck it up.

I would love if the Illuminati formed from Europeans that had contact with the Asian roots of the martial arts that later formed into Goutetsu’s ansatsuken. Now, don’t take this to mean that the two would be related…just that some of the individuals from Europe that first traveled to Asia and came into contact with chi-manipulators who would go on to form martial arts disciplines (including SnH ansatsuken) were inspired and took on their own studies into the art. This lead to architectural research across Europe and North Africa that uncovered secrets known by those ancient civilizations like the Egyptians and Greeks. With the basis from Asia and the secrets from the West, they formed countless secret arts and the Illuminati was born.

I’d also make their secret arts VERY diverse, beyond just stuff like “I can make elements!”…like Kolin, for example, might be the master of an art that lets her memorize information at a rate comparable to a computer, letting her keep track of EVERYTHING for Gill. This would also be why she loves him…her secret art lets (nay, requires) her to memorize everything about individuals…which makes her HYPER aware of the small flaws in beings…and that is kind of a turn off when you’re super aware of stuff like that. Gill though? She sees no flaws in him. Gill, meanwhile, has such affection for her because her HUGE breadth of knowledge lets her converse with him philosophically & intellectually as an equal or better. With his education and focus on self-improvement, it is INCREDIBLY rare for someone to be able to keep up with Gill…so he values that highly.

Basically, the Illuminati would be a bizarre mixture of science and mysticism in comparison to the HEAVILY scientific Shadaloo and the entirely mystical martial artists that are common. Philosopher-scientists.

As for connections to Shadaloo? Hmm…I’d prefer they remain separate with Bison making huge headway into Asia & the Americas but struggling to move into Europe, constantly stymied by “unknown” forces working against him…the Illuminati. The Illuminati, meanwhile, are concerned with Bison’s INCREDIBLE expansion and its speed considering it took them hundreds of years to dominate a continent where-as Bison is insinuated into MANY places in a fraction of the time. Gill, as Emperor, however, would be unconcerned, having full faith in the prophecies and believing things are going as foreseen. Urien, being the hot-head that he is, would have some of the Illuminati membership siding with his desire to ruthlessly CRUSH (KILL! DESTROY!) the upstart Bison. That way you immediately have some intrigue in the Secret Society.

Those doll blurbs are interesting. Maybe we will see Enero in Season 2/3, where she calls in other dolls as assist characters?

Enero would be the WORST Doll to make a playable character out of…

No wait…maybe Aprile is.

Just for fun, this is what Alan Noon said about Sawada here at SRK (quoted from this topic: Street Fighter the Movie Broke My Heart)

I don’t think a lot of them are really suitable for combat, but they could prove effective in other ways. Enero seem’s to act like the leader of the troupe being the one that bark out orders to the others, Marz acquires info and data through hacking and cyber attack, and Aprile’s medical kit seems to be carrying some neurotoxins modified by Fang himself.

They would be interesting challenge mode characters.