The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

Magegg · February 14, 2016, 6:35am

You get boners because of power ups? How old are you? 13?

Just kidding, when it comes to DBZ, all of us are kids again

francis22 · February 14, 2016, 6:37am

Sagat officially left Shadaloo in the SF4 era. More specifically, Sagat left Shadaloo after he formally declined Bison’s offer to rejoin Shadaloo after the organization went underground at the end of SFA3/SF2. This event took place several months after Shadaloo’s fall (SFA3/SF2) or several months before SIN’s tournament (SF4), depending on how you want to see it. We see him decline their offer in the Viper Aftermath trailer and in his SF4 prologue. However Sagat consciously decided he wanted to leave Shadaloo several months before then during the ending of SFA3/SF2 (after he saw what Bison really wanted from Ryu), but never had a chance to act on this because Shadaloo was “destroyed” and Bison went MIA.

SF5’s version of corroborates this version of events by [details=Spoiler]having a statue of Sagat be present in the 4 kings stage around the time of SF4.[/details]

According to Street Fighter 5. Birdie would’ve left Shadaloo in the months following SF4 which would mean Birdie was actually part of Shadaloo for years starting with Alpha 2, and then Alpha3/SF2, and finally SF4.

Necalli

Spoiler

We don’t know how Necalli changes to human appearance as his human appearance is several hundred years (implied) after his prologue. I don’t think it has anything to do with the Warrior Prophet he absorbs, because we see him absorbing others but his appearance is unaffected. If you look closely, his stone costume as cracks, so it is possible that it breaks off revealing his more human form beneath. It isn’t farfetched though for him to take on the appearance of who he absorbs. Need more information on this one.

Laura is I think 6 or 7 years older, as others already said.

Enero (pink hair, communication), Jianyu (quarterstaff, behind Vega), and Xiayu (nunchaku, face paint, middle).

so, how old is Sean in SFV? Is he a teenager? 16-17? Because I think Laura is 22-23 years old…

I think these characters could be playable characters in next DLCs:

Ed (Presumably the kid saved by Balrog in SFIV)
Some dolls with new designs (Bison’s story)
Helen (Looks like a friend of Nash)
Azam (A friend of Rashid)

and I am sure that these characters (who physically appears on the story mode) will be playable in 2017:

Crimson Viper (Bison’s story)
Sakura (Karin’s story)
Decapre (Cammy’s story)
Juni (Cammy’s story)
Oro (Dhalsim’s story)
Sean (Laura’s story)
Gouken (Ryu’s story)

what do you think about these possibilities?

Dead_Rikimaru · February 14, 2016, 7:03am

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jxfoh2YmFA

Hipherien · February 14, 2016, 7:50am

All of those are strong contenders for second season DLC, although I don’t think Sean will be playable. That’s just imo, though.

R-D · February 14, 2016, 7:58am

I think Oro needs a new English voice actor.

Anyway, Helen strikes me more as an NPC than a future playable character. But I would be open to a pleasant surprise, especially if she keeps the winter outfit.

Not sure yet about Sean and some of the SF4 characters. Something that was said about the goals of this prologue story was to encompass the full history in such a way that it has what anyone (presumably someone who knew nothing) would need to know about the story before the cinematic one, collected in one place.

And part of that isn’t seen yet (esp. Alex and Guile) but for the most part I think we have seen most of the relevant players, so I think it says more about who is unmentioned than who is mentioned. I.e., Rose and Fei Long seem to be out of the spotlight this time around, because they have backstory that would have needed to be touched on.

So Oro seems like a strong possibility at the moment, at least, because it seems like they want you to know about him ahead of time.

johnson.carl96 · February 14, 2016, 8:14am

Regard Helen and Nash -

Spoiler

Anyone else think she is Nash’s assigned handler in the Illuminati? She does show concern for him in the first cutscene, but this is not unheard of (Gill and Kolin). In the second cutscene, she clearly knows the events of Nash’s ‘death’. She asks him if he remembers his fight with Bison. This scene takes place in the Russian stage, which isn’t exactly ‘legal’. She has intel on Charlie’s current status in the military (KIA). She also knows of Bison’s grand plan (but not his current location). Also, what’s the symbol on her sleeve?

Daemos · February 14, 2016, 9:32am

That was A-MAZING! Welcome to SRK!

Shockdingo · February 14, 2016, 9:38am

So I’m in full conspiracy/speculation mode and I’m killing a bit of time, so I’m obsessing over these Ono tweets:

I know he’s kidding on stuff and we should take it with a grain of salt (especially the last one), but he at least seems open to the ideas (namely Blanka ones and Q) compared to this:

Not as joking and light as the above, but more of a “I’m not saying never buuuuuut…” answer.

…
…
…my feelings on this?

http://i.imgur.com/gT83EWF.gif

Westlo · February 14, 2016, 9:55am

They have her character model for the cinematic story and more importantly she’s blonde, she’s a shoe in imo.

Daemos · February 14, 2016, 10:34am

Guys just because a character appears in the story mode does not mean they will become playable DLC. For a character to become DLC, Capcom laid out 3 criteria - story, community support (read: profitability), and fighting niche.

All of these characters appeared in the story mode in some capacity.

Spoiler

Since this is the story thread, what’s important to look for here is whether or not this character is going to have ‘fighting’ interactions with others.

Sakura
Oro
Sagat
Abel
Poison
Viper
Rose
Decapre
Juni
Xiayu
Enero
Jianyu
Sean
Ed
Helen
Gouken
Azam

Of all the characters, only Sakura, Oro, and Viper have been hinted to get involved in fighting in the coming story. The rest are just there.

Karin seeks out Oro, but Oro senses another (bets on Necalli right now, Oro is probably one of the few characters that can hand Necalli his blobby ass on a platter). This makes me believe that Oro is the most likely second season candidate.

Sakura recently arrived to the Kanzuki estate, presumably to participate in Karin’s little affair. So there is a strong chance she will make it in soon.

Viper is gonna have a strong presence in the story it seems. Leaking info deus ex machina style to characters left and right (something she was already prone to doing since SF4). However, Viper doesn’t have to be playable to do this. She is the biggest maybe of the 3 I just mentioned. After Juri, she is the SF4 character most likely to join, so she has that community support helping her.

I think several dolls will be fightable in the story mode and trials. We’ve seen Capcom actually bother to make some of the Shadaloo soldiers fightable for the trials. It isn’t farfetched to assume they will make Decapre and others fightable in some capacity. They are Cammy re-skins/head swaps essentially. This IMO disqualifies them from being DLC for the time being. But I think we will see most of them in 3D.

Juni is out of it. Abel is out. Sagat is in the mountains training, this could be a sign that he is out story-wise.

Rose is the biggest WTF so far. Bison is about to do the very thing she has struggled to stop. Something is up. But at least Capcom haven’t forgotten her. Her being the ‘Joker’ card in Nash’s deck could be symbolic of something… Anything… Nevermind

Helen doesn’t look like a fighter. Total NPC.

Ed is not a fighter, he’s a child, a prop and a literary tool.

We will probably see a 3D modeled version of Azam for the cinematic story, but that’s about it. He is Rashid’s Nadeshiko or Shibasaki.

I think Gief and Mika’s muscle adventures in the ring could attract other wrestler types. I think a Hugo with Poison duo getting involved down the line is a legitimate possibility. I recall her messaging Rashid something about this. Can’t be bothered to check right now.

[details=Spoiler]Everyone thinks that at the moment, lol.

I’m not sure what the symbol on her sleeve is but trust me I looked and searched. The red and yellow give me Soviet Russia, along with her accent. But it could also be one of those European family crests/coat of arms. Once we have a better shot of it, it will narrow our search. [/details]

R-D · February 14, 2016, 11:05am

There was also that as-yet-unnamed guy in the control room, in the cinematic trailer. I don’t think having a cinematic model necessarily means “playable.” Might be a bit meta, but maybe part of what makes my head say non-playable is that she doesn’t really have anything abnormal about her. You know how every SF5 character has to have something off-kilter. They would add something to her design, maybe some kind of weapon.

While we’re at it, that policeman from Dhalsim’s story has a 3D model too.

So, different topic…

[details=Spoiler]Something that came to mind is “Why is Viper involved with Rashid?” He is more or less a nobody story-wise at the beginning. She seems to be giving him preferential treatment, which probably means she has some role in mind for him, but then she’s also telling him to stay away. What’s her plan for him?

Further thought would suggest it has something to do with the icon he received “from his friend,” but that’s a deadend as far as speculation goes, except that “someone” is attempting to entangle him in the story.[/details]

francis22 · February 14, 2016, 11:05am

Daemos:

Guys just because a character appears in the story mode does not mean they will become playable DLC. For a character to become DLC, Capcom laid out 3 criteria - story, community support (read: profitability), and fighting niche.

All of these characters appeared in the story mode in some capacity.

Spoiler

Since this is the story thread, what’s important to look for here is whether or not this character is going to have ‘fighting’ interactions with others.

Sakura
Oro
Sagat
Abel
Poison
Viper
Rose
Decapre
Juni
Xiayu
Enero
Jianyu
Sean
Ed
Helen
Gouken
Azam

Of all the characters, only Sakura, Oro, and Viper have been hinted to get involved in fighting in the coming story. The rest are just there.

Karin seeks out Oro, but Oro senses another (bets on Necalli right now, Oro is probably one of the few characters that can hand Necalli his blobby ass on a platter). This makes me believe that Oro is the most likely second season candidate.

Sakura recently arrived to the Kanzuki estate, presumably to participate in Karin’s little affair. So there is a strong chance she will make it in soon.

Viper is gonna have a strong presence in the story it seems. Leaking info deus ex machina style to characters left and right (something she was already prone to doing since SF4). However, Viper doesn’t have to be playable to do this. She is the biggest maybe of the 3 I just mentioned. After Juri, she is the SF4 character most likely to join, so she has that community support helping her.

I think several dolls will be fightable in the story mode and trials. We’ve seen Capcom actually bother to make some of the Shadaloo soldiers fightable for the trials. It isn’t farfetched to assume they will make Decapre and others fightable in some capacity. They are Cammy re-skins/head swaps essentially. This IMO disqualifies them from being DLC for the time being. But I think we will see most of them in 3D.

Juni is out of it. Abel is out. Sagat is in the mountains training, this could be a sign that he is out story-wise.

Rose is the biggest WTF so far. Bison is about to do the very thing she has struggled to stop. Something is up. But at least Capcom haven’t forgotten her. Her being the ‘Joker’ card in Nash’s deck could be symbolic of something… Anything… Nevermind

Helen doesn’t look like a fighter. Total NPC.

Ed is not a fighter, he’s a child, a prop and a literary tool.

We will probably see a 3D modeled version of Azam for the cinematic story, but that’s about it. He is Rashid’s Nadeshiko or Shibasaki.

I think Gief and Mika’s muscle adventures in the ring could attract other wrestler types. I think a Hugo with Poison duo getting involved down the line is a legitimate possibility. I recall her messaging Rashid something about this. Can’t be bothered to check right now.

Spoiler

Azam was a wrestler fighter, wasn´t he? I think he could be a playable character (similar to Haggar? who knows…). Why are you sure that Ed is not a fighter? We don´t know that yet. He has some kind of power (probably Psycho Power), he could use it, he is on Shadaloo after all

Daemos · February 14, 2016, 11:13am

francis22:

Daemos:

Guys just because a character appears in the story mode does not mean they will become playable DLC. For a character to become DLC, Capcom laid out 3 criteria - story, community support (read: profitability), and fighting niche.

All of these characters appeared in the story mode in some capacity.

Spoiler

Since this is the story thread, what’s important to look for here is whether or not this character is going to have ‘fighting’ interactions with others.

Sakura
Oro
Sagat
Abel
Poison
Viper
Rose
Decapre
Juni
Xiayu
Enero
Jianyu
Sean
Ed
Helen
Gouken
Azam

Of all the characters, only Sakura, Oro, and Viper have been hinted to get involved in fighting in the coming story. The rest are just there.

Karin seeks out Oro, but Oro senses another (bets on Necalli right now, Oro is probably one of the few characters that can hand Necalli his blobby ass on a platter). This makes me believe that Oro is the most likely second season candidate.

Sakura recently arrived to the Kanzuki estate, presumably to participate in Karin’s little affair. So there is a strong chance she will make it in soon.

Viper is gonna have a strong presence in the story it seems. Leaking info deus ex machina style to characters left and right (something she was already prone to doing since SF4). However, Viper doesn’t have to be playable to do this. She is the biggest maybe of the 3 I just mentioned. After Juri, she is the SF4 character most likely to join, so she has that community support helping her.

I think several dolls will be fightable in the story mode and trials. We’ve seen Capcom actually bother to make some of the Shadaloo soldiers fightable for the trials. It isn’t farfetched to assume they will make Decapre and others fightable in some capacity. They are Cammy re-skins/head swaps essentially. This IMO disqualifies them from being DLC for the time being. But I think we will see most of them in 3D.

Juni is out of it. Abel is out. Sagat is in the mountains training, this could be a sign that he is out story-wise.

Rose is the biggest WTF so far. Bison is about to do the very thing she has struggled to stop. Something is up. But at least Capcom haven’t forgotten her. Her being the ‘Joker’ card in Nash’s deck could be symbolic of something… Anything… Nevermind

Helen doesn’t look like a fighter. Total NPC.

Ed is not a fighter, he’s a child, a prop and a literary tool.

We will probably see a 3D modeled version of Azam for the cinematic story, but that’s about it. He is Rashid’s Nadeshiko or Shibasaki.

I think Gief and Mika’s muscle adventures in the ring could attract other wrestler types. I think a Hugo with Poison duo getting involved down the line is a legitimate possibility. I recall her messaging Rashid something about this. Can’t be bothered to check right now.

Azam was a wrestler fighter, wasn´t he? I think he could be a playable character. Why do you know that Ed is not a fighter? He has some kind of power (probably Psycho Power), he could use it, he is on Shadaloo after all

[details=Spoiler]Ed is a child, and like the member of the final generation of Human Incubators created by SIN before their collapse. He was bred for once purpose only and that’s to become host to Bison’s soul if it ever needed him. His ability to wield Psycho Power is likely a byproduct of the genetic material that went into engineering him, which is Bison’s DNA.

I don’t think he is interesting enough to become his own full fledged playable character, which is why he will likely remain as an NPC. He’s there for story purposes most likely. Likewise, Azam was created to be a story-related side kick to Rashid only.

IMO, any future NEW characters will likely be completely new, therefore none of the characters we’ve seen so far.[/details]

ES_Curse · February 14, 2016, 11:16am

Nash/Helen

Spoiler

I have two theories.

Helen is Kolin under a cover name, and she’s doing matrix-style stuff to warm Nash up to the Illuminati’s goals. Instead of tossing her organization at him all at once, she his working him into a fervor so that his hatred for Bison makes him slavishly obedient.
Helen is just another Illuminati member, based in Russia. While we really don’t know why Nash was buried in Russia, it may be in order to put him in proximity with Helen. Between the star on her hat and her name (Helen=Hellenic Culture, like President Gill), she’s definitely Illuminati.

Ed

Spoiler

I am very sure that Ed will inherit Bison’s throne post-SF3. They seem to be setting him up as an antagonist in the making. He comes off as an ass, and I think he will be Street Fighter’s Hazama/I-No in SF6.

And I don’t consider Sagat out of the running yet. I want him there, tearing down the monster (Shadowloo) he helped create. Of particular interest would be his interactions with Ryu (Ryu Final time?), Nash (he WAS a member of Shadowloo at that time, and a high-ranking one no less), Bison (after not-so-nicely turning down his offer before SF4), and FANG (can’t wait to see how Sagat feels about his ‘replacement’).

To recreate the important parts of Ryu Final, we need: Alex (already coming), Oro, Sagat (both will probably come soon), Hugo/Poison, Dudley, and Akuma. Coincidentally, all of those characters are fairly well-requested, though Hugo may have some trouble making the cut.

bakfromon · February 14, 2016, 11:19am

Daemos:

francis22:

Daemos:

Guys just because a character appears in the story mode does not mean they will become playable DLC. For a character to become DLC, Capcom laid out 3 criteria - story, community support (read: profitability), and fighting niche.

All of these characters appeared in the story mode in some capacity.

Spoiler

Since this is the story thread, what’s important to look for here is whether or not this character is going to have ‘fighting’ interactions with others.

Sakura
Oro
Sagat
Abel
Poison
Viper
Rose
Decapre
Juni
Xiayu
Enero
Jianyu
Sean
Ed
Helen
Gouken
Azam

Of all the characters, only Sakura, Oro, and Viper have been hinted to get involved in fighting in the coming story. The rest are just there.

Karin seeks out Oro, but Oro senses another (bets on Necalli right now, Oro is probably one of the few characters that can hand Necalli his blobby ass on a platter). This makes me believe that Oro is the most likely second season candidate.

Sakura recently arrived to the Kanzuki estate, presumably to participate in Karin’s little affair. So there is a strong chance she will make it in soon.

Viper is gonna have a strong presence in the story it seems. Leaking info deus ex machina style to characters left and right (something she was already prone to doing since SF4). However, Viper doesn’t have to be playable to do this. She is the biggest maybe of the 3 I just mentioned. After Juri, she is the SF4 character most likely to join, so she has that community support helping her.

I think several dolls will be fightable in the story mode and trials. We’ve seen Capcom actually bother to make some of the Shadaloo soldiers fightable for the trials. It isn’t farfetched to assume they will make Decapre and others fightable in some capacity. They are Cammy re-skins/head swaps essentially. This IMO disqualifies them from being DLC for the time being. But I think we will see most of them in 3D.

Juni is out of it. Abel is out. Sagat is in the mountains training, this could be a sign that he is out story-wise.

Rose is the biggest WTF so far. Bison is about to do the very thing she has struggled to stop. Something is up. But at least Capcom haven’t forgotten her. Her being the ‘Joker’ card in Nash’s deck could be symbolic of something… Anything… Nevermind

Helen doesn’t look like a fighter. Total NPC.

Ed is not a fighter, he’s a child, a prop and a literary tool.

We will probably see a 3D modeled version of Azam for the cinematic story, but that’s about it. He is Rashid’s Nadeshiko or Shibasaki.

I think Gief and Mika’s muscle adventures in the ring could attract other wrestler types. I think a Hugo with Poison duo getting involved down the line is a legitimate possibility. I recall her messaging Rashid something about this. Can’t be bothered to check right now.

Azam was a wrestler fighter, wasn´t he? I think he could be a playable character. Why do you know that Ed is not a fighter? He has some kind of power (probably Psycho Power), he could use it, he is on Shadaloo after all

[details=Spoiler]Ed is a child, and like the member of the final generation of Human Incubators created by SIN before their collapse. He was bred for once purpose only and that’s to become host to Bison’s soul if it ever needed him. His ability to wield Psycho Power is likely a byproduct of the genetic material that went into engineering him, which is Bison’s DNA.

I don’t think he is interesting enough to become his own full fledged playable character, which is why he will likely remain as an NPC. He’s there for story purposes most likely. Likewise, Azam was created to be a story-related side kick to Rashid only.

IMO, any future NEW characters will likely be completely new, therefore none of the characters we’ve seen so far.[/details]

[details=Spoiler]Zangief implies that Azam and him had trained together at some point. Which would make him somewhat akin to Haggar in that aspect.
Another thing I noticed about Azam’s overall design is how it borrows heavily from a certain forgotten Street Fighter who also rivaled Gief in his respective series.

http://i.imgur.com/YXqHuMy.jpg

[/details]

Volcanick · February 14, 2016, 11:21am

They can’t just kill off Rock Howard twice in my life! I won’t have it!

Daemos · February 14, 2016, 11:21am

R-D:

There was also that as-yet-unnamed guy in the control room, in the cinematic trailer. I don’t think having a cinematic model necessarily means “playable.” Might be a bit meta, but maybe part of what makes my head say non-playable is that she doesn’t really have anything abnormal about her. You know how every SF5 character has to have something off-kilter. They would add something to her design, maybe some kind of weapon.

While we’re at it, that policeman from Dhalsim’s story has a 3D model too.

So, different topic…

[details=Spoiler]Something that came to mind is “Why is Viper involved with Rashid?” He is more or less a nobody story-wise at the beginning. She seems to be giving him preferential treatment, which probably means she has some role in mind for him, but then she’s also telling him to stay away. What’s her plan for him?

Further thought would suggest it has something to do with the icon he received “from his friend,” but that’s a deadend as far as speculation goes, except that “someone” is attempting to entangle him in the story.[/details]

[details=Spoiler]

Re: Control Room Guy

I believe it was BornFree who came up with this one, but look here:

The guy in the back. That’s Matthew McCoy of Delta Red. We could be seeing more of them this time around.

Re: Rashid and Viper

Rashid is the eldest son of an extremely rich and influential Arab family. I think it follows the expected stereotype for his family to have connections to the CIA. It may help explain his advanced gadgetry. They also know each other on a first name basis. Viper would not reveal her first name to just about anyone, she is a spy after all. [/details]

@just5moreminutes

I really doubt Sagat helped create Shadaloo. He was the organization’s strongman for a fraction of its total history.

Agreed about Helen. Especially the first point.

bakfromon · February 14, 2016, 11:31am

Confirmed crossover character!

[details=Spoiler]
Kuma confirmed in Japanese version of R. Mika’s story

starts at 5:40
https://youtu.be/MSV-Gbrh1vw?t=5m40s[/details]

Daemos · February 14, 2016, 11:34am

Japanese VAs with English subs. That’s the only way I am playing this story mode.

Genistar · February 14, 2016, 11:43am

Can we get like 5 different helen’s for DLC pls?

edit: is the story based on gills 2nd impact ending?