Yes, so you have no reason not to call him Charlie, only 09’ers and worse should call him nash.
Wouldn’t you say psycho crusher was Bison’s signature move? So, it seems kinda weird to convert it into a super. Like making ryu’s fireball a super only.
Well, '09ers and weaboos who have always called him Nash.
I’ll probably call him Nash from now on simply because that’s the name that appears on everything in the game. Just to avoid confusion.
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Bison was like this for his Shadaloo-ISM boss form in SFA3 which was his most powerful appearance to date besides this one.
Oh, OK. Well, I barely played SFA3, so I wouldn’t know.
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The excuse that the artist had a lot of panels to create wouldn’t be valid had he started sooner, I mean was there any reason they didn’t get him going on this ASAP so it didn’t end up looking this bad? Also, Sean is white now? Dafuq?
Best explanation I can give is that Laura must have scared the black out of him for a quick second because later he’s just as dark as Birdie happens to be (if not darker) in his first appearance after SF.
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They are linear. Unless stated otherwise, all the prologue events of SF5 are taking place after SF4. The end of SF4 here is the defined is the end of the SIN tournament and the collapse of SIN. The earliest event on this timeline is Rashid’s prologue which occurs 12 days after the collapse of SIN. The latest event on this timeline is Ken’s appearance at Karin’s estate with his family which I approximated using Mel’s age and speech. Some SF4 endings such as Gouken’s, Ken’s, Sakura’s, and others obviously do not take place during the collapse of SIN, but rather days, weeks, and maybe even months later. So there is a potential for overlap.
While Capcom did not ‘inexplicably’ link both events with exact audio or script. There are several lines of script that is obviously a reference to Gouken’s SF4 endings.
Gouken to Ryu
“So you’ve awakened… You were nearly consumed by the Satsui no Hadou”
This is a clear reference to what’s going on with Ryu in SF4. Gouken says it to Ryu immediately after we’re seeing them fighting, and after we see Ryu ‘internally’ struggling with Evil Ryu. The way he says it sounds like it was the first time he is saying to Ryu as well.
Gouken then advises Ryu but follows with the statement “Of course, you don’t need me to tell you that” which mirrors Gouken’s attitude towards Ken and Ryu when he said goodbye in his SSF4 ending. Gouken there tells Ryu and Ken, that they are grown men now and do not need him (or should call him master). Even the setting of Gouken’s SSF4 ending is similar to the mountainous setting of the New Zealand stage now that I am looking at them both clearly.
You are also completely disregarding the 12 days date. Which is what’s important here, it matters not when Ken said his goodbye. What matters here is that Ryu and Gouken’s encounter with Rashid happened approximately 2 weeks after the collapse of SIN. [/details]
Sagat officially left Shadaloo in the SF4 era. More specifically, Sagat left Shadaloo after he formally declined Bison’s offer to rejoin Shadaloo after the organization went underground at the end of SFA3/SF2. This event took place several months after Shadaloo’s fall (SFA3/SF2) or several months before SIN’s tournament (SF4), depending on how you want to see it. We see him decline their offer in the Viper Aftermath trailer and in his SF4 prologue. However Sagat consciously decided he wanted to leave Shadaloo several months before then during the ending of SFA3/SF2 (after he saw what Bison really wanted from Ryu), but never had a chance to act on this because Shadaloo was “destroyed” and Bison went MIA.
SF5’s version of corroborates this version of events by [details=Spoiler]having a statue of Sagat be present in the 4 kings stage around the time of SF4.[/details]
According to Street Fighter 5. Birdie would’ve left Shadaloo in the months following SF4 which would mean Birdie was actually part of Shadaloo for years starting with Alpha 2, and then Alpha3/SF2, and finally SF4.
Necalli
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We don’t know how Necalli changes to human appearance as his human appearance is several hundred years (implied) after his prologue. I don’t think it has anything to do with the Warrior Prophet he absorbs, because we see him absorbing others but his appearance is unaffected. If you look closely, his stone costume as cracks, so it is possible that it breaks off revealing his more human form beneath. It isn’t farfetched though for him to take on the appearance of who he absorbs. Need more information on this one.
Laura is I think 6 or 7 years older, as others already said.
Enero (pink hair, communication), Jianyu (quarterstaff, behind Vega), and Xiayu (nunchaku, face paint, middle).
Probably the reference to F.A.N.G poison techniques coming from this film https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Legend
For those who didn’t see this film, the evil boss in the first part of the film use the evil technique called Five Venom Fists. To make his body and hits more poisonous,he put his arms in baskets full of snakes,scorpions and spiders to strengthen his deadly technique.
Nah, I’m in that timeframe and I’ve kept calling him Charlie. Granted, that could be because I played a bunch of Alpha 2 and Alpha 3 (hell, played Alpha 2 on the SNES at first), but still.
Wow. Lin from King of Fighters now has a rival…
[details=Spoiler]I’m not disregarding the whole 2 weeks point because that kinda proves what I’ve been trying to say about the time gap. The thing about it is that you’re trying to blend events that would be simpler if left un-blended. Gouken’s “goodbye” in SSF4 doesn’t have to be this end all be all goodbye between Ryu, Ken, and Gouken that you’re making it out to sound by placing it as the last event before leading up to SFV. It’s unnecessary, especially when the whole Gouken chastising the two for calling him master is more of a joke than him actually claiming they don’t need him anymore. They call him master out of respect and Gouken knows fully well that their intentions for addressing as such are because of this fact. So he pokes a bit a fun at it and they all laugh at the end. What he claims is true for the most part, they don’t need him since he’s taught them all about his particular art, not SnH.
Yes Ryu’s prologue begins similar to Gouken’s SF4 ending, because it is reference to Goukens win over Akuma. If they were the same then you would at least expect to here Ryu reference the Power of Nothingness like he did in SF4 before he went unconscious. I just find it peculiar that if this was their SF4 fight that they would use some of the dialogue like the did to show Cammy’s fight with Decapre, which matches exactly to her USF4 ending.
I don’t believe the beginning of Ryu’s prologue begins directly after his SF4 meeting with Gouken, but rather there is a time gap in between this and in which Gouken’s SSF4 ending occurs. With Ryu specifically going back into SnH training with him after this. You wanna say this occurs within a period is two weeks then fine. I just believe that Gouken’s SSF4 ending has already occurred which is why Ken is even able to stay in contact with his master to keep tabs on Ryu to begin with.
So in general I feel that a lot of the SF4 and SSF4 endings happen a little closer to S.I.N’s collapse than you’re inferring they do[/details]
SFV has been proving him wrong when it comes to Nash. His name, the way he died. Taking Ls all round.
Judging by the statements Capcom has made about the cinematic story mode, they didn’t initially intend to include something like that. They adjusted their plans based on fan feeling.
And the story prologue that is in the game right now is intended to lead into the events in the cinematic story. Because they didn’t know they would have the cinematic story, this prologue also could not have been intended in the original plans. Most likely they would have had an SF4-like arcade mode instead.
You can’t make a prologue to something that wasn’t going to exist. So the art as you see it was probably not what they expected to need when they started.
Probably the main issue is that all the work was given to one person. But maybe that was already in the contract.
It’s funny because even though he vehemently sticks to the word of the plot guide. The main person who was behind it before him had made this claim all the way back in 2001 about the Nash subject.
So yea basically he even admitted they would possibly change it.
The previous author is well aware of Capcom’s retcon tendencies and kept an open mind about it. He didn’t stubbornly hold on to old sources.
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You’re right, Gouken’s goodbye doesn’t have to be the end all be all goodbye. This is pure conjecture on my part to make sense of that scene which was always odd because they just finally met one another. By injecting this new material between it and when they first discovered he is alive, it gives a better sense of stuff happening between them before Gouken left. That scene doesn’t even have to be goodbye though, it can actually be a new beginning altogether for a whole sequence of events.
As I said though, this doesn’t truly concern me. What matters most to me is the timeline of events, and determining an accurate starting point of the SF5 timeline which I believe Rashid’s encounter with Ryu and Gouken gives us. The fight demonstrated between Gouken and Ryu does not have to be Gouken’s fight with Ryu from his SF4 ending. However, given the timeline from Rashid, we can conclude that the fight between Ryu and Gouken in SF5 is within very close proximity to the fight in SF4. Like within days to weeks of each other, assuming both fights are not one and the same that is.[/details]