The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

[Doctrine_Dark]

Damn. I was hoping the Denjin and Satsui no Hado stuff would be there. I’m salty.

[Lord_Vega]

I don’t, I’m sorry. I didn’t know about these cards until yesterday, and there’s no checklist even on Bandai’s official site. All I’ve found is some blog who describes a few of them, and lots of auction sites; unfortunately, as everyone labels the cards inconsistently and rarely specifies whether they have them all or not, it’s hard to extrapolate informations from all that mess. The only sure info I got is that the special version of SFZ has 42 cards.
Oh, and it exists a SFZ2 set as well.

From what I could gather, it seems that those cards are called Carddass.
So that auction actually confirms that the set with 42 cards is complete?
I took a look at that blog with the SFZ2 cards, here’s what is written at the bottom of the page:
ストZERO２の弾の１枚めで通算４００枚！！
カードダスもかなりの長寿シリーズだったんだなぁ。
カードダスはまだ続きます！
追記：ストZERO編その３

Google translator says that SFZ2 had 400 cards? Is that it?

Thanks Miðgarðsorm for the info.

If you’re interested in that particular book I found two insertions for it on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STREET-FIGHTER-III-New-Generation-All-About-19-Bible-Guide-Book-DP34-/311683397103?hash=item4891c735ef:m:mCx3thyBojAKmCnEPUVGDsw

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Street-Fighter-III-3-THE-FIGHTING-BIBLE-Book-ALL-ABOUT-/401356777413?hash=item5d72ba67c5:m:mOrr3Xc0Kv6Tt1vBoDbFrIg

I use to collect some stuff from Japan, but I’m mostly interested in artbooks and visual stuff. I remember coming across these All About books and ended up not taking them into consideration because they looked like game guides with frame data and stuff like that, I didn’t know they also had story details. Not that I would be able to read them anyway.

Most of those books are about gameplay, frame data, etc. But they do have some artwork on them and brings interviews and part of the background story for the games.

Thanks for the links Phantom Miria , but I’m afraid that I’ll have to wait until the end of the month to buy this… :s

Thanks again, I think I’ve actually seen some of the pages of AASF3 characters but I never got to translating them. The Fighting Bible is a bit different, besides all the frame and fighting data, it also has a Q&A with the developers which describe their story behind the attacks and how they work in the game’s universe among other things iirc.

Yeah. That’s the same book with the Gill and Kolin picture. Also, that Q&A section mentions that Vega/Bison and Shadaloo are “alive and well” during SF3…

Thanks for the information on the cards. It’s a long shot, but I’m going try to find some. They look really well done.

They are great. Specially the Z1 and Z2 ones… I’m not too keen about the SF2 WW, but they are also nice.

Juri’s “likes” section seriously had “big boobs” in it originally?
When did they destroy such piece of beauty changed this information?

If memory serves me right, they changed it when the second update about the SSFIV characters came out.
They started with Dee Jay, Thunder Hawk and Juri only. Those 3 were given ages too… which were removed in the second update.

Mentioning that Juri likes big boobs is a giveaway that she’s at least bissexual…

Couldn’t scan all of the images from the All About SF3 NG The Characters just yet, but I’ll get round to it within the next few days. Consider this part one:

Thanks Scotia! Be careful not to break the scanner glass when forcing the middle of the book against it while scanning… I already did that twice… ¬¬

[AriesWarlock]

Honestly I still think Juri getting boob inflation in SFV is dumb as hell. She should’ve been left alone. The sideboob/underboob in her SFIV default outfit made her much sexier than the retarded latex bodysuit that emphasizes her increased breast size even further

Gotta disagree here, Pahvel, for you see

http://i.imgur.com/g8kHMxkl.jpg

[Midgardsorm]

From what I could gather, it seems that those cards are called Carddass.

Yes.

So that auction actually confirms that the set with 42 cards is complete?

Yes.

I took a look at that blog with the SFZ2 cards, here’s what is written at the bottom of the page:
ストZERO２の弾の１枚めで通算４００枚！！
カードダスもかなりの長寿シリーズだったんだなぁ。
カードダスはまだ続きます！
追記：ストZERO編その３

Google translator says that SFZ2 had 400 cards? Is that it?

Well, NO. The blogger says that with that SFZ2’s DAN single card HE has reached a total of 400 Carddass at that moment.

[DarthEnder]

Gotta disagree here, Pahvel, for you see

I don’t really consider the fact that they squirt milk to be a positive.

I mean, it’s great if you’re a baby, but I don’t have any use for it.

[Will_Diesel]

Edit: Cody seems to have the same issues as Vega. He is hair color is just not consistent. I’m looking at the Final Fight CD box art. Cody is blonde on the cover. Hair is brown in the game. Why?

http://www.valuewalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/capcom.jpg

I don’t think it is the same thing as far as Vega is concerned. Making Cody a blonde is most likely to signify that he is a delinquent, if it is to be trusted in Japanese culture that the connection is made there’s no hope for Cody to return to brown hair and as a “hero”. Vega’s blonde hair has gone from brunette to blonde back to brunette depending on the game in question, it could be completely dependent upon the artist.

[Phantom_Miria]

Thanks for the links Phantom Miria , but I’m afraid that I’ll have to wait until the end of the month to buy this… :s

No problem, I like to be of help.

If memory serves me right, they changed it when the second update about the SSFIV characters came out.
They started with Dee Jay, Thunder Hawk and Juri only. Those 3 were given ages too… which were removed in the second update.

Mentioning that Juri likes big boobs is a giveaway that she’s at least bissexual…

That’s interesting, they have pretty much stopped giving precise characters’ ages as of recent.
What was Juri’s age supposed to be originally?

[Cestus]

Mika’s and Laura’s tits are just retarded, Poor girls would have back issues by the time they reach 50’s

is japan, they’re going to get replaced as soon they touch 30yo anyway, who care about theyr old-stripper health problems 20 years later

[Cestus]

Mika’s and Laura’s tits are just retarded, Poor girls would have back issues by the time they reach 50’s

Well Mika’s were actually recorded back in Alpha 3 as 97 cm and before Viper came into the picture she has the biggest bust of all the females. Since she weighs more in SF5 than she did back then we can assume that she got bigger in the chest as well but since SFV did away with the 3 sizes I guess we won’t know about her Laura or Kolin. I’m thinking about making a new bust size list later just for the heck of it since the old guide had one.

Ironically boobs was like the worst part of Viper model SF4

Btw everybody got size upgrade in SFV, pretty sure both Mika and Laura break the 100 lol

I also think Laura may be overall the biggest girl SF ever got?

She’s tall muscular an thick… the ASF scene where she’s dragging the two unconscious grunts make her look man-size (wich on a giant tits brazilian girl should give suspects lol)

[Fretless94]

Btw everybody got size upgrade in SFV, pretty sure both Mika and Laura break the 100 lol

Actually, I’m pretty sure Ibuki got outright downgraded.

[Cestus]

Btw everybody got size upgrade in SFV, pretty sure both Mika and Laura break the 100 lol

Actually, I’m pretty sure Ibuki got outright downgraded.

because are prequel-tits in her case =)

[ES_Curse]

Btw everybody got size upgrade in SFV, pretty sure both Mika and Laura break the 100 lol

Actually, I’m pretty sure Ibuki got outright downgraded.

because are prequel-tits in her case =)

They’re still larger in SSF4 though. Like I said, she stuffs the breast cavity of her ninja suit.

[Cestus]

Btw everybody got size upgrade in SFV, pretty sure both Mika and Laura break the 100 lol

Actually, I’m pretty sure Ibuki got outright downgraded.

because are prequel-tits in her case =)

They’re still larger in SSF4 though. Like I said, she stuffs the breast cavity of her ninja suit.

imho the canon shoul go deeper about where she stuff her ninja tools

[Midgardsorm]

While searching for the cards, I stumbled upon a very interesting curiosity. Namely, the complete list of Demitri’s Midnight Bliss transformation effects in Capcom Fighting Jam/Evolution. Some characters have TWO different transformations, the “special” one triggered by executing Midnight Bliss using all the punch buttons. Spoilered for size.

Spoiler

Ryu

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/b/a/badddf0c.jpg

That’s the Indian girl from Street Fighter Animated Movie.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-51jySd78-9Y/T3c_GO5KFTI/AAAAAAAAISE/vLZiP91UdI8/s400/ni%C3%B1a+calcuta+India+Ryu+Street+Fighter+II+The+Animated+Movie.jpg

Guile

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/2/d/2d628b34.jpg

A stereotypical stars-and-stripes-bikini-clad-buxom-American girl.

Zangief

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/b/1/b127642f.jpg

Ooo boy whence should I start. This is where things become interesting. This character was presented on the now defunct CFJ official site as ザンギュラちゃんでロシアの蜜柑売り “Zangyura-chan, the little tangerine vending Russian girl”. This is Capcom rubbing it in Gamest’s face. Gamest was notorious for its numerous typos over the years, various of which have entered Japanese gamers’ language as jokes. One of the most famous of these occurred in issue 83, published in January 1993. There was a special covering SF2T location test, and they wrote about Zangief’s then-new Quick Lariat (provisionally named Super Lariat) that ザンギュラはキックボタン3つ同時押しで足に判定のない、早めの回転のスーパーウリアッ上が出せる。“By pressing all kick buttons, Zangyura can do a very quick Super Uriajjō, without collision detection in his legs”. An impressive series of errors in a row, that deservedly earned them the laughs and scorn of their readers. They then tried to defend themselves declaring they had copied the names from a badly handwritten note, but “Zangyura” had already become a meme. With CFJ, Capcom canonised Gamest’s epic fail giving the name Zangyura to this female version of Zangief. Her aspect comes from Čeburaška, one of the most famous Russian characters, and extremely popular in Japan as well (so much so that its last animated movie was in fact done by a Japanese author). Zangyura sells tangerines because Čeburaška was discovered in an orange crate, a scene that became iconic. Just ask @PVL_93_RU

http://fan.plus-idea.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/image1.png

So, an epic typo + Čeburaška + little match girl gave life to this gem. You may have met some “Zangyura” used somewhere, as nickname or MUGEN edit. That’s its story.
I didn’t know about this until today, and it almost shocked me. The fact is, I used to imagine Zangief’s ending with crocodile Gena’s melancholic song Голубой вагон Goluboj vagon “blue train wagon” in the background for no particular reason… And then I find out that Capcom already did the Zangief-Čeburaška connection!

Bison

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/d/9/d9be003f-s.jpg

Bison dominatrix version. Pretty self-explanatory.

Sakura

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/1/e/1e57a906.jpg

Sakura as gym teacher, as she appears at the end of Sakura Ganbaru!, also reprised in her SFIV ending.

Guy

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/0/f/0f56f34d.jpg

A feminine Guy wearing Maki clothes (a blatant headswap of Guy’s head over Maki’s body, lol).

Special Guy

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/7/0/70be355f.jpg

That’s Shadow Girl, a ninja character appearing in Capcom’s Gotcha Force.

Rose

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/d/2/d2c57ef9.jpg

Hey, IT’S LISA LISA! Capcom openly acknowledging and declaring the homage, well well…

Special Rose

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/6/d/6dceb284.jpg

That’s Enya the Hag, still JoJo after all…

Karin

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/e/b/eb1f2813.jpg

Another interesting one. That’s Karin as Reika Ryūzaki, from Sumika Yamamoto’s seminal manga Ace o nerae!. In the comic, Reika was the star of the tennis club, renowned for the grace of her game. She came to resent the potential abilities of the protagonist Hiromi Oka (a short-haired brunette, very much like Sakura…), but in the end Reika helped Hiromi and became her friend. This is the manga that started it all, the whole “rich and elegant princess at the top of her game becomes jealous of the commoner girl’s raw talent” plot back in 1973. You all should thank Reika for Karin and Lili Rochefort.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/c0564262a737def9dad5bc8623eeff80/tumblr_inline_ne1lieCS3I1s4ir0p.jpg

Alex

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/0/3/034250a6.jpg

Alex’s feminine version. Nothing special.

Special Alex

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/a/b/abd83402.jpg

Hello, Patricia!

Yun

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/8/2/8208ee57.jpg

A girl working for 昇龍軒 Shēnglóngxuān (Shōryūken in Japanese reading, yeah, pun intended), the restaurant Hoimei and Shaomei work in, with a giant shāomài on her head.

Urien

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/2/4/24e6ad7c.jpg

A girl clad in 水法被 mizuhappi (a short jacket) and 締め込み褌 shimekomi fundoshi, typical of the Hakata Gion yamakasa matsuri.

http://www.hakata-yamakasa.net/img/page/traditionalstyle_01.jpg

Women cannot participate in the race, but little girls are allowed.

Chun-Li

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/b/b/bbc21cdb.jpg

Chun-Li’s Alpha costume.

Special Chun-Li

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/4/5/45db7a26.jpg

Chun-Li’s Pocket Fighter sprite

Ingrid

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/nakamuonline/imgs/6/c/6c9a875d.jpg

Ingrid gothic lolita version. It became then a special win pose in SFZ3↑↑.

And that’s all as far as SF characters are concerned. Vampire and Warzard have far less curiosities about them; I can still post them if you want.

[Great_Dark_Hero]

I prefer getting crushed by Rose’s boobs.

[ES_Curse]

More proof that Demitri’s Midnight Bliss is one of the best FG supers ever animated. A lot of Darkstalkers stuff has cool animations.

Is there a list of Anakaris’ Curse transformations in CFJ? If they did MB sprites, I imagine they did new sprites for that as well.

[bakfromon]

Ok got the tit tier list put together after doing some digging. Something interesting considering Elena and Ibuki. Apparently, developers had made three sizes for them during one of the Q/A’s in the AASF3 Fighting Bible (The current book I’m in need of). They listed Ibuki with a B 83 cm, W 58 cm, H 88

Spoiler

Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

-Ibuki’s 3 sizes?
A. She’s a height of 157 cm, B 82 cm, W 57 cm, H 82 cm.

They also had a height of 157 cm listed for her. SSF4 lists it as 162cm but I’ll get to that later[/details]

and Elena with a B83／W58／H88.

Spoiler

Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

-Elena’s 3 sizes?
A. She’s B 83 cm, W 58 cm, H 88 cm.

Now switch to SF4 era and we have a change in Ibuki’s stats

https://i.imgur.com/HmqNCIq.jpg

but not Elena’s.

https://i.imgur.com/twl9Pnf.jpg

I wonder if this is due to Elena being released late into SF4 eras lifespan in USF4 and during the beginning, they pulled a Nash like A/AB blood type situation and just forgot about it and then some senior people actually took noticed later on and they were like “Hey these characters actually have bio stats??? I thought we just Ono it and throw some shit at a wall and see if it sticks???”. Maybe some other mishap it’s interesting. Ibuki started off rather small, but she grew in the tit tier list and Elena remains rather low.

Juri (pre retcon)
75

Ingrid
78

Sakura, Makoto
80

Ibuki (AASF3FB)
82

Juri (post retcon), Cammy (Alpha), Karin (Alpha), Elena
83

Chun li (Alpha), Juni (Alpha)
84

Maki (SFA3)
85

Cammy (SF4), Decapre
86

Chun li (SF4)
88

Spoiler

At least the first lady of SF is higher than mid tier.

Poison
91

Spoiler

pretty big for being fake

Juli (Alpha)
92

Ibuki (SSF4, SFV)
95

[details=Spoiler]Remember that a high school kunoichi has bigger boobs than Chun. No wonder she liked showing them off in her SF3TS win pose

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/ibukiw4.gif

Rose
96

R.Mika (Alpha)
97

C.Viper
98

Spoiler

She’s a mom

Now, regarding Laura, Kolin, Karin, and Mika in SFV. Mika and Karin both gain weight in SF5 Mika going from 62kg in her first appearance to 70kg and Karin going from 48kg to 59kg. I’m pretty sure Laura’s actually the heaviest recorded female SF weighing in at 72kg (I say recorded because Chun is technically secret so she may be heavier lol). Kolin is 65kg which is more than Mika pre SFV. In short, the new gen of SF girls is 乇乂ㄒ尺卂 ㄒ卄丨匚匚.

I can speculate that Kolin is larger than Karin. I’d probably rank Kairn on the same as Chun now and, Kolin just a bit higher into Ibuki or Rose range. Mika and Laura definitely break 100. Juri is second to last from canon tit tier list which ends at Sakura and Makoto who are both young girls. I can see how being called flat by an 8ft tall giant with building sized man boobs would piss her off. It’s also crazy to think she was flatter than Ingrid pre retcon. Here’s the full picture of the profile pre retcon. Her favorite thing is listed as “Big tits” 巨乳.

[AriesWarlock]

^That was interesting about Dimitry’s Midnight Bliss, thanks. @bakfromon is there a miscellaneous or extra section in the plot guide -already over 700 pages!!! - to add these? Or how about a companion guide for interesting tidbits of information like these?

Speaking of interesting misc info

Sooo, I found something interesting I think people may have forgotten. This goes back to Juri thinking Abigail calling her flat chested. Juri may be a bit self conscious about her boobs. Originally her bust size was listed as 75cm which would have made her boobs the smallest of the series females, right under Sakura and Makoto who are 80cm. Her likes were also listed as “big boobs” before that was changed too, which is pretty ironic for someone who didn’t have them.
This was only listed on the Japanese SSF4 site before they changed her bust to 83cm, which is still pretty small in comparison to the rest of the cast, in fact this would’ve put her in the range of Cammy and Karin’s size during the Alpha series.

Ah, yes, I remember. Pity they changed it.

[Cestus]

Ok got the tit tier list put together after doing some digging. Something interesting considering Elena and Ibuki. Apparently, developers had made three sizes for them during one of the Q/A’s in the AASF3 Fighting Bible (The current book I’m in need of). They listed Ibuki with a B 83 cm, W 58 cm, H 88

Spoiler

Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

-Ibuki’s 3 sizes?
A. She’s a height of 157 cm, B 82 cm, W 57 cm, H 82 cm.

They also had a height of 157 cm listed for her. SSF4 lists it as 162cm but I’ll get to that later[/details]

and Elena with a B83／W58／H88.

Spoiler

Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

-Elena’s 3 sizes?
A. She’s B 83 cm, W 58 cm, H 88 cm.

Now switch to SF4 era and we have a change in Ibuki’s stats

https://i.imgur.com/HmqNCIq.jpg

but not Elena’s.

https://i.imgur.com/twl9Pnf.jpg

I wonder if this is due to Elena being released late into SF4 eras lifespan in USF4 and during the beginning, they pulled a Nash like A/AB blood type situation and just forgot about it and then some senior people actually took noticed later on and they were like “Hey these characters actually have bio stats??? I thought we just Ono it and throw some shit at a wall and see if it sticks???”. Maybe some other mishap it’s interesting. Ibuki started off rather small, but she grew in the tit tier list and Elena remains rather low.

Juri (pre retcon)
75

Ingrid
78

Sakura, Makoto
80

Ibuki (AASF3FB)
82

Juri (post retcon), Cammy (Alpha), Karin (Alpha), Elena
83

Chun li (Alpha), Juni (Alpha)
84

Maki (SFA3)
85

Cammy (SF4), Decapre
86

Chun li (SF4)
88

Spoiler

At least the first lady of SF is higher than mid tier.

Poison
91

Spoiler

pretty big for being fake

Juli (Alpha)
92

Ibuki (SSF4, SFV)
95

[details=Spoiler]Remember that a high school kunoichi has bigger boobs than Chun. No wonder she liked showing them off in her SF3TS win pose

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/ibukiw4.gif

Rose
96

R.Mika (Alpha)
97

C.Viper
98

Spoiler

She’s a mom

Now, regarding Laura, Kolin, Karin, and Mika in SFV. Mika and Karin both gain weight in SF5 Mika going from 62kg in her first appearance to 70kg and Karin going from 48kg to 59kg. I’m pretty sure Laura’s actually the heaviest recorded female SF weighing in at 72kg (I say recorded because Chun is technically secret so she may be heavier lol). Kolin is 65kg which is more than Mika pre SFV. In short, the new gen of SF girls is 乇乂ㄒ尺卂 ㄒ卄丨匚匚.

I can speculate that Kolin is larger than Karin. I’d probably rank Kairn on the same as Chun now and, Kolin just a bit higher into Ibuki or Rose range. Mika and Laura definitely break 100. Juri is second to last from canon tit tier list which ends at Sakura and Makoto who are both young girls. I can see how being called flat by an 8ft tall giant with building sized man boobs would piss her off. It’s also crazy to think she was flatter than Ingrid pre retcon. Here’s the full picture of the profile pre retcon. Her favorite thing is listed as “Big tits” 巨乳.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2-idXV0---/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18j4dzss3yqjxjpg.jpg

I say Chun is much thicker than Karin, i ptobably place her at 65kg (same weight but shorter than Kolin)… and probably pass the 60 piss her a lot lol

Btw Kolin is very proportioned aside bein generous on dem legs and tall, i doubt she will break tits records… probably somewhere on 90-95

But you never know, Viper looked skinny and with shit ingame tits, and still she got record numbers =)

[Super_Sonic]

I think body sizes are like the story itself in SF, their history can be erased with any game.