And really, it isn’t necessarily how broken your nen ability is that makes you dangerous.
Gon and Hisoka have nen that’s pretty much basic as fuck and they have been at times two of the more dangerous people on the planet.
I am aware he has the ability to master them all in Emperor Time, it doesn’t grant him mastery. Being able to use all Nen to 100% means you have counter-pick capabilities on the tier of Chrollo built in. You can be whatever Nen type is to your ultimate advantage. Outside Meruem, Royal Guard, Netero, and Gon transformed it is questionable if anyone is beyond Kurapica’s level. His potential is far greater than Gon’s or even Netero’s just based off of Emperor Time.
When he fought Uvogin he beat the shit out of him WITHOUT the need to force Zetsu, because he was able to use Enhancer, Manipulator, and Conjurer Nen at 100%. Uvogin wasn’t some dumb brute, he simply couldn’t imagine a fighter with the hax level of cheats Kurapica has. Uvogin committed what hunter x hunter has shown to be the ultimate poor choice, forcing a confrontation before you know the opponents capabilities. Kurapica just used forced zetsu to try to get him to answer his questions. Kurapica was spider level without his ridiculous forced zetsu ability around the yorknew arc and it’s been awhile since then.
That being said just showing him become a master of all Nen categories would make him probably one of the top 3 Nen users in the world, all these additional specialist abilities are just ridiculous.
Also Kurapica can use judgement chain on ANYONE, he can’t use chain jail on anyone but the spiders.
in a real time fight him and chrollos ability take too long to actually set up against experienced people
kurapikas new ability is legit but the fact is that we’ve only seen it used by someone elses concession. in actual combat he would have to stack it on his other abilities which probably have conditions the path to land and to get someone abilities or use there type always seems drawn out in this series.
im sure kurapika has standard nen abilities to defend himself but his more powerful abilities seem to lie in subterfuge, investigative and long drawn out plans.
He has invisible chains strong enough anything but a master level enhancer isn’t going to be able to break. Once he sticks them with the needle to drain it puts them in a state of forced zetsu. Unless he can only use 1 chain at a time there is no reason he can’t
- invisible a chain around you to bind your movements since he can hide the nen of his chains as he moves them around. His chains are conjured giving them unique properties that make them more potent in many ways than manipulated chains.
- stick you with forced zetsu needle chain that steals your ability
It’s a more potent chain jail that can be used on anyone that has more steps. It definitely isn’t as impractical as Chrollo’s. He doesn’t have a plethora of conditions. He just has to subdue you long enough to force the Zetsu, which if you aren’t a non-spider enhancer is an incredibly simple feat for him. We don’t know the amount of time the needle drain takes to force the zetsu and steal the ability but again if you are wrapped in his chains not like you could do anything to fight back.
chain jail only works on the spiders and they arent invisible to more potent nen users
I know on chain jail, that’s why I said it is like a more complicated and potent version of chain jail that works on anyone. Chain jail’s incredible power is because of its simplicity, it grabs you … you lose, if it worked on anyone Kurapica would easily be in contention for the strongest Nen user in the world.
You need to use Gyo to see the Nen, it isn’t a manner of being a ‘potent nen user’. It’s a matter of he can force you to use En or Gyo to defend while dealing with a plethora of other abilities. You use your Nen to focus on attacks or defense with Ko, you might get instant gimped by an invisible chain. You very well might have to use Ko to defend etc because there is nothing preventing him having Enhancer abilities on par with Gon or Uvogin. We haven’t seen it but he has the potential. Kurapica is a swiss army knife of ridiculous.
the only other restrictive chain he has is judgement and the only time that was landed was when he had chain jail already on uvogin which only works on the spiders
you make it seem like the shit cant be dodged or anything
the ability is powerful of course but it has to hit the center not to mention that emperor time/scarlet eyes and using different nen types to counter nen fatigues him
the ability is good but it has obvious downsides to it
kurapika lacks in stamina which is why he engages in subterfuge.
Idk the abilities are good but like any other nen battle the condition will effect him adversely depending on whats happening and who hes up against.
I really don’t see the purpose of the Nen beasts if they can’t attack opposing Princes or each other, and right now some of them seem to be taking out the guards of the Prince’s they’re protecting. So this means the Prince’s can only fight one on one in the succession war, which pretty much cancels out the younger and physically weakest Prince’s from competing regardless of the strength of their Nen beast.
He has used judgement on himself, chrollo, uvogin, and the truth chick among the phantom troupe. When Gon and Kurapica talk about his nen restriction gon asks how if only it works on phantom troupes can it work on himself? Then Kurapica admits when his eyes glow red he can use judgement chain on anyone, then Gon asks if he could use it on him so he could gain the strength related to a Nen restriction.
Kurapica’s Judgement chain has no restriction since he just has to activate emporer time which is a 0 startup unlimited buff. Sure you can dodge invisible chains … but his invisible chains that auto-destroy you is just a small part of his arsenal thanks to emporer time being so strong.
(Ah, yeah. My bad. According to Kurapika’s entry over on Hunterpredia, it’s not Judgment Chain that’s restricted to the Spiders, it is indeed Chain Jail.)
That said, what I said otherwise still stands as valid to me, especially since I disagree that Kurapika’s fight against Uvogin was that one-sided even if Kurapika did win rather handily overall. That was less purely because of his tailor-countered abilities and more because Kurapika was playing Uvogin from the very beginning. Sure, Uvogin was far smarter than he appeared, but he was still unable to think clearly given that Kurapika repeatedly focused on making him pissed off, even before Kurapika started to hide his chains with In.
Beyond that, I also vehemently disagree with the argument that “Emperor Time allows him to counter-pick his opponents in real-time” in large part because of the aforementioned lack of experience with non-Conjuration categories, especially since the “counter-pick” to at least half of the categories are the categories themselves, and in part because it takes time to make up Hatsu. Emission seems the best to beat Emission; you are only likely to overpower a Reinforcer at close-range if you’re a Reinforcer yourself; Manipulating yourself is the only way to avoid being Manipulated.
All that is the complicated by the fact that Uvogin is still Kurapika’s only real match.
So outside of agreeing that Kurapika is more powerful than he “should” be, I guess we will have to agree to disagree for now since I’m not convincing you and you’re not convincing me.
Not necessarily. Hui’s internal clarification said that the Nen Beasts indeed can’t directly attack other Nen Beasts or their hosts directly, but he said absolutely nothing about attacking those things indirectly. After all, we just got an example of that with one of the Woble’s guard’s being taken over and killing all of the other guards save for Bill, Kurapika, and himself. To say nothing of the Nen Beasts likely being able to sabotage parts of the ship to kill or set traps that do the same.
In a way, this fits into the twisted logic that the king was thinking about with regards to how the succession war is about strategy and tactics and about proving one’s self mentally adept to take over since one part of politics is often maintaining plausible deniability, which such manipulations would count as given so few people know about Nen, much less can see it, even the princes themselves. This on top of that the fact that last chapter confirmed that the king is definitely willing to sacrifice everyone else on board given he called them “offerings”.
That said, given the king also likely isn’t against the princes more directly killing each other as both Benjamin and Tserriednich promised each other so long as they don’t so in a too public way that drags down the prestige of the royal family overall, the younger and physically weaker princes are indeed at a disadvantage there. Between the king being completely fine with his kids murdering each other in the first place and what his fucked up Nen-Beast looks like, I doubt he cares either way. If they die, then they died because of weakness. If one of them makes it out as the sole successor, then have proved themselves to be the true successor despite their inherent disadvantages.
Either way it works for him, especially since he has been implied to be similarly almost as much of a monster as Tserriednich.
clearly its not unlimited
he caught a fever last time and fatigue sets in quickly
if anything its a lesser version of Kaio-ken
kurapika will always have stamina issues its the trade off of having various techniques
My bad, I missed that part for some reason so I reread the chapter. Good luck with that if Chrollo and the remaining members of the Phantom Group get on that boat, not to mention Ging and Beyond, but I think the top 5 Princes possibly have Nen beasts on par with the Imperial guards from the Ant arc which will make things quite interesting.
Before the most recent hiatus we were told that one of the main characters would die in this arc, Kurapika would be the most likely candidate but I still think it will be Leorio…
What the fuck, the next chapter should’ve been translated in English by now. So like I suspected (since last year) Benjamin and his guards are Nen users…
So we’ll get to see the first real fight of this arc in the next chapter.
My bad for giving spoilers, and the Japanese to English translation that I read didn’t make any sense… Now I understand why Ben cant sneak attack the other Prince’s with his Nen.
(I guess we’re finally going to get see Kurapika fight someone other than Uvogin, even if it’s not by himself. Woot.)
Nice to have some more concrete fleshing out of the top three Princes even if the majority of the chapter focused on the prince we already something about in Benjamin. Speaking of Benjamin, one of the things that I like about Togashi’s writing is that he tends to avoid making the more prominent muscular characters just dumb muscle when it would be rather easy to do just that. Much like Uvogin, Benjamin appears to be brash, forward, and a bit impulsive and quick-to-anger, but that’s not the same thing as dumb, especially since he similarly showed that he’s willing to listen to logic and rational arguments, at least from people he trusts (like Uvogin did). The closest we have ever gotten to dumb muscle among the prominent characters thus far has been Yupi, who also happened to be the Royal Guard Ant that underwent the most character development even if Nef had more focus.
As for the other two princes, Zheng Lei (?) is actually seeming more decent than I expected from what little he said this chapter, which may be why his Nen Beast one of the least fucked up looking outwardly; it’s probably still too early to tell though. Meanwhile, however, Camilla is far worse than I was expected, even in light of us being introduced to Tserriednich first among the princes. I’m not going to say she’s worse than him, but she verges surprisingly close just given the blase way she asks her father to make sure all of the other princes have to die and her internal dialogue thereafter. She’s basically the super spoiled brat that I was expecting, which her use of third person makes worse both in that it’s an attempt to make her appear more cutesy (as per Japanese language conventions), which further proves Tsubeppa’s point of narcissism, and it also can serve to distant herself from more vile, self-justified actions and wishes.
It may just be my misanthropy talking, but I find it interesting how Togashi seems to draw quite a few of his more fucked up characters more realistically than the other characters.
Finally, speaking of weird realism, damn, one has to really appreciate the extremely minor details of the water bottles and their reflections on the glass table when Benjamin is talking with Balsalmico and the rest of his soldiers/guards.
It’s hard to believe that Uvogin is the only fight Kurapika has had up until this point. I’ll take a guess and assume that Benjamin’s guards are transmuters if they know how to use Nen.
edit: and I’ll be specifc and say the ones that do are probably tramsmuters that transform into different types of animals.
Late again. Think the translators are having problems.
http://readms.net/r/hunter_x_hunter/364/4426/1
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And now everyone can stop with this Kurapika is broke in Emperor Time mess.
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It isn’t that Emperor Time isn’t broken, just they had to add a restriction to it because it is BEYOND busted. So he dies sooner, he’s god tier in the mean time. If anything this is Togashi admitting it needs some downside because otherwise it is ridiculous. Heck he got ANOTHER buff this chapter not only can he steal abilities he can transfer them to others. Not only that he was able to cancel the Nen users abilities out nearly instantly so after being stabbed you are essentially immediately forced into a semi-zetsu state of far weakened Nen. Enough an emitter couldn’t even manage to produce his technique immediately after being stabbed. In a group battle this could be even stronger than chain jail, though 1v1 chain jail is still probably preferred against the spider.
This arc is becoming increasingly interesting