Depends on how fast you learn DOTA. It’s got an incredibly hard learning curve. Before you can play well, you basically have to have a good idea of what 85+ heroes with 4 spells each can do. You have to know all the game basics, last hitting, when to fight, when to run, how to work as a team, etc etc.
The problem is that DOTA is such a strongly team oriented game, that one person can make or break a team. Coupled with the fact that public games rarely last long since people who die tend to just leave, it’s a very hard game to learn. Public games tend to focus on everyone picking carry heroes and hoping one of them gets fed enough to rape, while “quality” games depend more on the whole team working together.
To add on, I should add that there are different tiers of DOTA play.
There’s
Public games
Inhouse games
TDA games (the most basic league)
Various levels of leagues…
Pubs, inhouses and TDA games are usually a crapshoot. It’s purely random whether you get people who know what they’re doing, or random scrubs.
Public games are usually bottom of the barrel, but it’s where everyone starts. They’re usually -em, which is easy mode. You get experience faster, and towers are weaker. Pubs usually give you terrible habits, like auto-attacking, staying in your lane and just pushing regardless of what type of character you have, getting sange and yasha on practically everyone, buying boots first, picking as many carries as possible.
The problem is, once you jump from a pub to even something shitty like TDA, it’s like you’re playing a whole new game. You basically have to relearn everything again. It’s best to play with someone with patience who can teach you how to play. Once you figure out everything, then it’s just a small step to get vouched in better leagues.
Im sorry, I dont know much about DOTA, except that it’s supposedly crack…
If I suck at WC3 (strategy), will I suck at DOTA?
And if it’s so hard to learn, how does someone learn? Even today in SC, it’s hard to get into the online gameplay because a) i suck, b) there are few noob matches, c) it’s hard to learn from getting dominated too hard.
No, WC3 and DOTA are almost completely different games. What will help is a good knowledge of the WC3 engine. If you are familiar with it, the jump is made much easier.
Best way to learn is to play a lot of pubs, and get familiar with heroes. To counter the bad habits you pick up in pubs, read a lot on the forums. There’s a lot of good guides, i’ll fish them out for you if you’d like. I’ve made it sound a lot harder than it actually is. Just play pubs, and don’t be afraid to ask for advice here.
razor is the best for new people. Zues also is a canidate imo.
the normal settings here in the philippines is arnp or apnp. Dota is strict in some places here, you can get a huge ass kicking for back dooring, killing chickens and shit.
Dota gets addictive, just so you know. Keep your crave for the game moderate!!
-np is such a shit mode. It nerfs sf/potm/nerub/venge and basically almost every gank oriented hero or heroes who depend on bottle. Takes out the concept of rune control completely…
i do wish np gets used less because it gets tiring all the time but the reason why this is used in most places in asia, especially here in my country, is because it makes things harder.
dude I’ve read strats from players from the phillippines and you guys have no clue what you’re doing. Its like you play the game backwards or something.
To quote cisco: “I like getting 2 Linkens Spheres” :lol:
Damn, you guys don’t play in the phillipines. Remind me not to do any of that stuff when i visit one of your lan centers to whoop ass.
I reccomend not memorizing builds at all. Just get the items that you see fit. Going against nukers, grab some hp. Going to dominate creeps, grab some damage.
Do places in Signapore and Malaysia use those same rules too? SG and MY have strong teams.
you only read strats from cisco. wait, aren’t you the same guy that put dagger on magina? lol
people here do allot of misbuilds intentionally because their is no point in being orthodox or taking the game seriously online. Our online games in bnet or ggclient will last for only 3 min because eventually 2 people will get disconected and the rest will leave after that. what’s the point?
The nr is based on singapore rules. The reason why we adopted it is because of the difficulty level it gives. There is no free illusions, no free regenerations, no free boost of damage.
the only thing i hate when playing games like dota in the philippines is the inconsistency of the rules… they just dont follow the standard rules and stick with their own house rules, thats why we find it hard to be competitive
You know, keeping track of the runes, and defending yourself against people with runes is actually much harder than playing without them. Taking out runes LOWERS the difficulty level, not raises it.
the amount of times 3 double damages or a regen has turned the game around for me is an astounding, 1, maybe, the person would have won if a DD spawned at each spot at the same time each game lol
Random? Try being multicasted 5x in a row.
Lol but i agree with desi. Runes increase the difficulty and add depth as it makes it even more important to control the map. Not uncommon to see teams fighting over the rune spots, making it kinda like a secondary control center. (Like obelisk in gw), shop control in wc3L, etc.
Sven is getting raped by these nerfs, as well as mag and bb. Anyone know how fast medusa’s attack animation is now? Is it better than potm?
glad to see the primal split cd decrease, and dusas new attack animation was needed too. However , after the aoe dmg nerf on epi i think the armor reduction on sk is overkill
