The Good But Generally Bad Police Thread

I hope whomever buys it has it sterilised first, I wouldn’t want to see what that interior looks like under a UV light.

@Raz0r I heard about the FBI agent who just happened to be around the block coming to aid the boy but holy shit this is a lot more than a tragic accident due to incompetence, a lot of heads need to roll.

Shake. It. Off.

I died when he stoped and looked all hard when the person crossed the street then jumped straight back into it.

Tackled a 14 year old? WHAT?

There was a story on Vox that was saying how a lot of DAs are hesitant to bring charges against cops who do stuff like this because they wind up getting blackballed as a result. So the cops just skate.

Yep…DAs are hesitant to bring charges to officers because it could be a career killer for them.

Albuquerque bars DA from latest shooting case after she files murder charges against cops - http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/albuquerque-bars-da-from-latest-shooting-case-after-she-files-murder-charges-against-cops/

New Jersey police shot a black man as he held his hands up — and it was caught on video - http://www.vox.com/2015/1/23/7878687/jerame-reid-police-shooting

He shot him dead point blank while he had his hands up holy shit. Seemed like the passenger was disobeying the officer’s orders though. The officer can use deadly force just based on the “belief” that his/her life is being threatened. That alone will mean the shooting is justified. At 4:48 of the video you can hear the officers demand that the camera/mic be turned off (possibly so they can write their own narrative of what actually happened?).

world class police training on full display there. Cop completely freaked out, I thought it was normal to ask the occupants if there is anything they wish to declare first that the officer should know about.

I don’t know why the guy got out of the car either, even if his hands were up, officer looks like he is struggling but not with the passenger, perhaps the door was locked? All I heard was don’t move a couple of times and then the guy decides to get out?

Officer solution to mental illness? Use lethal force. Shoot to kill because it can be justified. What? Mental illness? Nah the kid had a knife while in a police station which means it’s an automatic threat to the officer’s lives.

17-year-old Kristiana Coignard shot and killed by three police officers after brandishing knife - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/26/1360261/-17-year-old-Kristiana-Coignard-shot-and-killed-by-three-police-officers-after-brandishing-knife

The family of a man who had mental illness called the cops for HELP to subdue the man. All the family wanted was for the man to be restrained. The cops came to their household and ended up shooting the mentally ill man because “he became a threat” to their lives. This happened last year a few streets down from where I live here in Hawaii.

Cop who stole nude pics off arrested women’s phones gets no jail time - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/cop-who-stole-nude-pics-off-arrested-womens-phones-gets-no-jail-time/

LOL at the other cop on the passenger side randomly buck a shot off. Like dude, what if you accidently hit the officer, but then again, the other officer was already unloading in his direction too, so it wasnt a good position for any of them.

The video was like two people freaking out. He did have a gun, so shit has to get serious there, but its like at that point, the officer went to level 20 and there was no coming down. That was only going to end bad once he opened the door to get out.

I like how he told his partner to get dude out of the car, and his corny ass was just like, uhh, okay, lemme just hold his hands out the window. lol

I dont know, its always super cringe worthy to watch cops get so turned up like that, that even if that video was titled, cop gets angry, then dances, id be like nah, someone about to die. When youre so charged up like that, and yelling, i question if youre actually listening to anything someone is saying to you anyways.

I dont know, people can say all they want about surviving gun shots to the heart on srk, and how knife wielders can take down anyone, but when a gun is already out and pointed at the person, you are in the position of power, so stay stern, but dial it back so you can stay focused. You could have shot your partner and the driver by accident.

I think that situation could have been handled better, but dude is an ex con who shot at cops in his teens, so nothing is coming of this.

There is so much to say about this from both ends, especially an excon rolling around in a car with a gun in the glove compartment of all places. How fucking cliche and dumb.

I wonder what the country was like before the war on drugs, poverty, etc…, when running through a stop sign was probably ignored (well if you were white), and not used as a gateway to dumb shit. To think all of this was really over an alleged running of a stop sign.

You are fucking retarded. Are you really this stupid?

Cop called for disturbance, which was the snowball fight. Pulls gun on everyone and frisk a few. I’d like to know what lead to him doing that, cause if you just got out your car and immediately went to your gun and frisking, jesus christ man.

To the surprise of no one:

Last charge dropped in police raid that killed sleeping Detroit child in 2010

Person they were looking for (uncle) was in the apartment upstairs from them.

Serious question, because I don’t know how things work in the US - is there a reason that lawmakers couldn’t just make it so that all police incidents that lead to a loss of life must be taken to a full trial? Or is it just something that would never get the political popularity to succeed because of “sabotaging trust in the police force” (lol) and “waste of public funds”?

Seems like a way of getting around having the people concerned deciding if they should take action against their own, and would also enable the people to have a (indirect) say in the way that they are policed.

Not that the military is perfect, but you tend to hear that their soldiers are held more accountable for killing innocent civilians than the police.

If you’re really curious you can read this for more info on how the system works: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/what-happens-when-you-re-charged-with-a-crime.html

If you have a look at the link above you’ll see that someone doesn’t just go straight to trial. There are a lot of moving parts that stand in the way of that. It would be very easy to strike down an attempt to make such a law because a lawyer would just claim that it subverts the due process that a U.S. citizen is entitled to. The huge problem right now though is that the people who have to bring charges against the police (DA/District Attorneys) are the ones who work with them to get criminals prosecuted which is a gross conflict of interest.

Thanks, but I wasn’t asking about the legal system so much as the political obstacles to such an idea. Denying due process is arguably a problem because of fifth amendment rights if you wanted to force prosecution without a grand jury trial first, so it would require a further amendment to define police officers compelled to use lethal force on behalf of the state as an exception much like active military personnel currently are.

Even if that doesn’t happen - and I get that recent governments are reluctant to propose amendments - It still wouldn’t preclude a change that compels prosecutors to proceed to a grand jury or pretrial (and further if it becomes a full trial).

Thats fucked up