I would use GGPO if the shit would fucking work on my laptop.
the PC requirements are so low for the standard cps2 games that if you’re posting on shoryuken from your own PC, chances are you will be able to run cps2 games just fine. Even a computer from 10 years ago runs cps2 100% fine. Saying you need a power PC like you’re playing battle field 3 is beyond stupid. also most sticks work with PC’s these days so everything you need to run GGPO already exists in your home…
and I don’t know how you can be worried about viruses like some paranoid maniac. You’re not downloading some random janky emulator. You’re downloading the emulator ponder worked on, you think he would be working on something that contains a virus? I have never installed another version of windows on my PC in 5 years and I play on GGPO just fine. Its really far fetched excuse honestly.
who said anything about getting good @ them? I imagine someone playing sf4\mvc3 for fun only would also play vsav, st, kof98\02 for fun too right? besides, there are non fighters on ggpo that can be played for fun like magic drop 3, wind jammers and metal slug co-op.
Justin, and other top players, have mentioned how going from a game like mvc2 to sf4 was so much easier because of the ease of the game. Everything is amplified to such an extent in mvc2 that it makes sf4 look like a fisher price toy.
if a sf4 player were to play vsav\xvsf on ggpo for lets say a month and go back to sf4, that person would actually react better to sf4. Essentially what you’re doing is training above the level of your game. I like to think of it as weight resistance training but for fighting games. Typically, you can’t do this for all games. For example its hard to train above the level of mvc2\mvc3 because games don’t honestly have that assist thing but for non team games like sf4, games like vsav\xvsf on GGPO can help you improve drastically. Many players have came back to me and mentioned how their spacing and reactions were so much better after playing a fast game like vsav for a while, it really does help.
I think training above the level of your game is honestly a great training concept, sure as hell worked out for Justin and I don’t think anyone would call him a liar
I think people are referring to downloading roms when they’re talking about viruses. Though that’s unfounded too because you can get roms safely.
You can set it up using Crossover Games (costs money, but it’s fairly easy to get going once you have it) or Bootcamp if you’re willing to do all of what that entails. Port forwarding is the tricky part for me because I can’t find a straight guide to do it on Mac; each one is different. It’s possible, though.
It’d still be great to have it be official. Much easier said than done, I’d imagine. But hey, more people would be able to play.
My 360/PS3 is on the other side of the room from my computer. So I’d have to get up, walk all the way over, unplug my TE, walk all the way back, crouch down, plug it into the back of my PC, set up the stick… and then do the whole thing in reverse when I want to play on my console again.
Shoultzula, people here don’t play anything they claim, like at all. Anyone scared of thier game not being good should just stop playing games in general. there is no easy button. I go 0-20 on the regular, but as long as i know that i have a shot at winning, i’ll keep playing. Have this mentality and next time instead of 0-20 near perfects, you might go 0-20 he’s nearly dead. Thats honestly the first step. Stop being a pussy. Stop making excuses. If you say yo love the game, and you want to compete, play. Just, PLAY.
There’s absolutely no way for you to know that, except that they don’t share your (or shoultz’s) opinions about things.
Anyways, some people don’t like to lose, there’s nothing wrong with that… there’s a special mindset you need to go 0-20 and still say ‘please sir, may I have another?’ Some people can take pleasure in feeling they’re improving a little bit, some people just get frustrated at losing. Accept that they feel differently than you do.
(not that it matters, most of the people here are saying ‘it doesn’t like to work so fuck it’)
Nobody likes to lose.
Some people do like learning though, and losing is part of that.
Anyway, I used to play 3S a little bit on GGPO, but I can only really play it on wireless internet right now, and GGPO doesn’t seem to like that very much.
hey
is this thread about me
i TOLD you i’m BUSY
i’ll come on again when i HAVE THE TIME :annoy:
Devil’s Advocate response:
:badboy: Why would players who started fighting games in the SF4 era jump from high activity games like SF4 or Marvel 3 onto GGPO when even one it’s most vocal supporters say it’s peaking around 400 players at the best of times?:badboy:
I can’t even get my dumbass friends to get KOFXIII because they’ve dedicated so much to time to SSF4 that the thought of playing something else actually scares them.
On the flip side, I’ve been playing fighting games for 20 odd years now. There’s no sense of discovery for me in playing the games featured on GGPO anymore. I don’t mean that I don’t want to play them because I won’t be discovering some godlike combo that no one’s ever found in VSav, I mean the sheer process of learning a game that I’ve never played. Like seeing a great movie for the first time. I wish I could have that feeling again with all my old favorites, but unfortunately nostalgia trips tend to be short for me.
99% of the GGPO is used by only 5% of the users. We are the 95%. #occupyggpo
Sorry but the type of people with this type of mindset will rarely if ever succeed at anything they want to accomplish in life.
Well, here in the real world, where actual human psychology happens, it’s immensely easier to stay motivated to do things when you feel like you’re actually making progress.
Just, so you know.
That is intensely easy to say.
There’s a difference between going 0-5 and 0-20. Everyone would be frustrated at that point. Games are meant to be fun, and most people don’t want to treat them as work (although clearly some do).
Let me try it a different way, the games aren’t worth it to people to learn and get so severely beaten at when there’s another game with people that they can occasionally win and make progress at. It’s not a bad thing, its only common sense.
The position here is that people should take time to make a twitchy program work, and then lose god-knows-how-many games to learn, just to play a game that they have no emotional connection to but other people say is good. It’s absurd to think that even 1% of people think like that, let alone 5%.
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My favorite classic fighting games (Night Warriors, Samurai Shodown 2, Hyper Fighting, Virtual Fighter 2) either have no online presence at all or are overshadowed by newer games in the series.
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I played the shit out of what I wanted to play when it was new.
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I prefer a new experience to a warmed over nostalgia trip.
Edit: I read SF-Zero2’s post after I posted this. That’s some synchronicity right there.
2.5D fucking sucks
I don’t play GGPO because i suck at 3p/3k marvel (although if I could be as good at mvc1 as i am at mvc2 id gladly switch, since mvc1 was my first love) and everyone on there is macro-using trash talking mexicans
I remember ballet lessons being given to professional athletes because people who did ballet have very good foot work which is a big part of sports. The better your foot work, the more effective you could be.
there is more than 1 way to train. A baseball player is still practicing baseball even though he’s practicing ballet. You don’t actually have to play your main game to get better unless you happen to play mvc2\mvc3. We have a tekken player in our area and since he’s been playing ttt2 demo, he’s mentioned how fast his reflexes hought process have become since playing in our marvel scene. In sf4, those game breaking reflexes\fast thought process aren’t exactly enforced to the same degree as a game like vsav.
alex valle said in an interview that part of the reason justin is so good @ fighters is because he was one of the best players in the hardest tournament game ever. The level of mvc2 was simply beyond anything else so when a new game came out, he was already beyond that level of that game too. People stuck only playing sf4 kind of get stuck within the sf4 realm and never learn the other important things to fighting games. Its the main reason why 99% of SF players simply can’t block in a fast 2d game and get confused on how to properly space because they can’t hold dwnbck 24\7.
That is a horrible example.
In fairness, Football players are being paid a fuckton more than gamers. Again, this isn’t a job for any of us, but something we do fun.
Also, you can’t compare the arcade environment that people like Valle and Wong grew up in to the current environment at all. Game choices were reasonably limited, and there was a lot more cost to losing, hell or to winning. Its totally different now.
In what way? There’s plenty of evidence in this thread alone that GGPO can be twitchy and sometimes hard to get to work, almost nobody we’re talking about played VS back in the day (both due to its rareness and due to the fact that most folks are too young), and if they haven’t played it they have no way of knowing its great except for what other say.
I’d say its a perfectly appropriate example, but I’m always willing to hear how I’m wrong.
Not everyone applies the same kind of effort and determination for their video games that they do in other aspects of life.
the WHOLE point to that post wasn’t about money einstein. some of us care about getting better maybe not you but other people certainly do.
and when your goal is to get better, you will do anything to achieve that goal. Even if it means thinking outside the box for a training regimen. We have podcasts dedicated to getting better and countless ways to improve, its more than just fun for some people.