they rather play fighting games on consoles, not on computer
i collect the older titles, you can hunt them down on srk trading post or ebay.
but seriously thanks for not pirating everything. i hate gamers that pirate everything.
yall being baited
There’s nothing wrong with that line with thinking. Roms is a definite gray area. Since most of the stuff on GGPO is abandonware feel free. Data East ain’t going to make any more money off Karnov anymore.
you can’t own ideas, so the very idea that you can steal one is just flat out ridiculous.
Alpha 3.
The games are too old.
My options, as someone coming into scene in 2011, are
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learn 3rd Strike which has a small community, and get bopped harder than you would in the newer games because in this your competition has been playing for 10 years
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learn some old, less popular version of Marvel
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learn an old version of KoF, taking away from the fledgling KoF13 scene.
I grinded out SF4 for year now and I am OK at it. As far as allotting my time to learn new fighting games, I’m having a lot of fun with KoF13 and Persona 4 Arena. I totally understand that GGPO is cool for players of these older games who still want to play it, but as a new player it’s hard to tell myself to learn KOF 94’ when I could be learning KOF13 along with everyone else instead
Learning the fundamentals in older games can go along ways into the newer games. Playing ST can teach you the mistakes you make more harshly then playing kof13.
Also, KoF 94 isn’t even on ggpo.
And also a quote,
“Each year in Kof is a different game” - Mr.KoF
Damn you’re a much better person than me. I’m a common pirate thief .
Nothings wrong with learning old school games, if anything, it only helps. They are faster and more unforgiving that newer games, helps sharpen reaction times and execution.
man… fuck popularity, play a game you like, no more no less. If you like marvel 3 more, thats cool, but don’t dismiss a game because of popularity. Thats the worse thing you can do.
Dunno if you can compare KOF XIII and ST. Better comparison is KOF 98 to XIII or ST to SF4 series. Different series, different skill emphasis. ST will teach you basic SF ground-based footsies but you won’t learn the air-to-air poking of a game like KOF 98 or an airdash fighter.
Generally older fighters with simpler subsystems and less emphasis on longer combos can arguably teach distilled fundamental play easier, however.
The thing SuperFreak about games I like is that none of the old games jump out to me as “better” than current variants. I can understand why a hardcore 15 year vet would feel strongly about 3S being better than SF4, for example - personally I am a PC vet so I have strong love for Counterstrike 1.6 and really dislike Source.
But, to a new player to these games, imo the fun and how good a game is directly correlates to “can I enjoy playing it with other people”. The large community of a game like SF4 was nice - I’ve had nearly equal competition all the way up until where I am now
Just saying that in a vacuum, to a new player, the older games are no better
MvC1>MvC3 yo that room is mad hypeeee
I can understand that. Play what you like, just don’t dismiss these games without giving them a chance is all im saying.
every ggpo game has its own mini community. If you stick around a room long enough, you’ll see the same people nearly every day. In a lot of ways it can work in your favor more than playing randoms on XBL/PSN even tho it not nearly as big. As far as enjoying it, you will, as long as you don’t mind losing a lot at first.
And most people are willing to help, they will either try to point you in the right direction as far as information, or just give you tips on how to improve your game.
I agree. It’s harder for the new generation to appreciate the old classics, but that’s just how it goes. Everybody got into the fighting game community with a certain game that they just love. For the OG guys, it’s games like SF2 and Alpha. For the newer generation, that game is going to be SF4. A lot of people are going to have a soft spot for the game that brought them into the fold, and thus will have little interest or appreciation for the old classics. Of course, I still do my best to encourage new players to at least TRY the older games and see how game development, game engines, and strategies, have evolved over the years.
Since you’re a PC gamer, I’ll bust out some examples you can relate to. Everybody loves CS 1.6, CS:S was a joke, and so far, the opinions on CS:GO is mixed. Some people love the new changes to recoil, animations, maps, and the visuals. Other guys who have also competitively played CS 1.6 absolutely hate the map changes and the new molotov grenade (lol, gl defusing the bomb ct). Personally I love CS 0.4b, because despite has retardedly unbalanced and unmodified the core game was, it gave me 100-120 ping on a 56k dial-up connection, people actually tried to rescue hostages and plant the bomb as a team, there was little recoil, limited gun selection, and you could literally plant the bomb anywhere you want (including CT spawn, at the edge of A or B, and stacked on top of boxes).
Hell, before that, the first-generation FPS dudes only loved the Quake series and despised the slower pace of upcoming FPS games. Can’t stop progress I guess.
If anything, I’d say newer games are better due to being made by a new generation of gamers and the emergence of a demanding and involved community around their products. Whereas, before, fighting games were solely brainchilds of a small talented group, today they look for channels of feedback from the community even before releasing their game. Their holy grail is making it to EVO. Also I’m an adult now and I like my stuff legit. I prefer to pay for my things and I like to keep them in order and take care of them. so yeah, my music has to have album art, metadata and be high quality and that goes for my worklife and my gaming too. The whole GGPO thing sounds too finicky and bootleg for me to mess with it. But I might give it a try once I understand more just what the fuck it is.
video game = idea
got it.
…is this how the rich get richer?
yall got $$ for computers and networks, etc., just use it to steal
haha
With Marvel vs Capcom Origins around the corner, I’m in the MSH room of ggpo more often.
Come play me.
being able to afford a computer doesn’t mean someone is rich. its not theft to download Roms, regardless of whether or not its legal.
i dont have one.
you rich.
also:
the fact that something requires endless hours of manpower and mil$$ of development costs does not preclude it from constituting nothing more than an idea, which is of course public domain.
ok; got it.