As I said before, what team tends to use their level 1 spark to save the point? Cell teams. What assist in the game heals all blue health, krillin assist. This isn’t exactly a hard to figure out thing. As it is, cell only needs one assist so that he can get his mixup off. So krillin after cell makes ALOT of sense. Also, the only reason for krillin point is the bad assist (which cell is one of the few good users of) so with cell using the assist well there is little reason for point krillin and indeed he would shine in the second slot with more meter for his super dhc.
Krillin shines in the point spot. Having assist cover his after image move buffs it so much along with having really good screen control with cell assist behind him. Gotenks assist will help get in if the opponent blocks any beam and also the crazy block stun will also make for some crazy mixups with rock toss.
Sigh, I know krillin is good in point. The best player in my area (pen ninja) mains krillin, I know about the little dude. EVERY character in the game is better with 2 assists than they are with 1 or none.
It’s not that he’s just better with 2 assists behind him. It’s the fact that it enhances his playstyle immensely. Screen control isn’t as effective since obviously his ki blasts can be super dashed through. His after image can just be mashed out of with out an assist and you can’t really set up rock toss mixups without an assist or knock down.
Also, you literally just said " only reason for krillin on point is his bad assist lol. You also said cell only needs one assist, so why not put him second.
Another thing is, krillins size helps at the beginning of the match against characters that have fast long range moves
Other than his “bad assist” there is no reason to put krillin at point more than anyone else. Everyone gets better mixups and pressure with double the assists available. Every character has better damage with assist extensions etc etc. krillin has good mixups from after image and depending on your blockstrings they are tight mixups depending on whether you use rock or after image or not, and of course depending on what assist you are using to backup krillin.
I’m just saying that there IS reason to play krillin at spots other than point. Specifically in this case he’s good with cell because perfect attack plus assist is atually not bad, unlike most other characters that krillin assist is exceptionally hard to make good. That’s called synergy and cell is one of the few characters that has some (good) synergy with krillins assist.
Krillin is a good decent character, people may one day find this out… or they won’t.
Good and Decent < Busted and Scummy
Krillin with assists imo, is one of the better characters in the game. The problem with him, is that he gets exponentially worse every time an assist dies. There are plenty of characters that can enforce strong pressure without assists. Krillin isn’t one of them
What characters are doing strong “pressure” without assists? Basically every character has to use meter to extend pressure solo. This game is literally assist blockstring, the game. That’s why I just don’t see it. I mean I understand what you are saying and I agree with it, I’m just not convinced this is something that krillin is particularly susceptible to more than anyone else. He has ex rock to gain back pressure, sure it’s a meter and sure it has a gap, but you will be hard pressed to find characters in this game that don’t have atleast one of those weaknesses to contend with in their solo pressure strings… atleast krillin has something to get plus frames without having a HUGE gap, lots of characters don’t even really have that.
Blue pretty much hit it. Krillin sounds like one of those characters where if you build the whole team around him he’s probably ok (which means point), but if for some reason you lose an assist or just dont have immediate access to it there’s generally characters like Cell, Bardock, Kid Buu and A.Gohan that are generally scarier when the assist is not ready to call or not available.
I just think krillin cell gotenks is that teams optimal positioning.
Either way, I just hope fox actually tries krillin out because I have some ideas for really good synergy between krillin/gotenks and would like to see what he comes up with
In training mode right now and seems krillin can get that neutral jump mix up pretty easy during a blockstring if he has gotenks assist thanks to his 2S
Yeah, it’s known already, or atleast I already knew that. 2S though I “think” is superdash cancelable on block being a ki blast so not the greatest thing in the world, but definitely of use, but krillin can also do this off a simple neutral jump.
Here’s the thing though… every character with a 2L that hits low can do that “cell mixup” it’s literally just lockdown the opponent then neutral jump and make the opponent guess between:
Falling high (fast)
Falling low (fast)
Falling airdash high (slow)
Falling airdash crossup (slow)
What cell in particular is better at than most characters is his perfect attack allows him to do that mixup from a TIGHT blockstring into the KB assist WHILE ALSO leaving cell at point blank range.
But zamasu as an example has the same thing, but it isn’t tight. It IS tight if you use TK flight, but that requires way more execution because of having to cancel flight etc etc.
It’s not the mixup that cell is exceptional at, it’s the fact that he can do it tight and that he can do it point blank. Trying to reverse engineer it to other characters leads into those 2 issues, either it isn’t tight, or you aren’t point blank for all the options to work in a fluid fashion.
Not that I tested all characters and all moves, it’s just the characters that I did test had those problems and it seems like problems that would transfer to most of the cast.
Krillin sux
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Definitely think krillin and blue Vegeta are underrated, but most people know what tien can do.
People know what he can do, but disrespect him all the same. He’s a character with a niche, and while he can perform well outside it, people don’t think he can escape it
Most people think he’s high tier. Not sure how that’s being underrated. He’s just not top tier
HI everyone, do you guys get annoyed when someone spends a large portion of the match hopping away?
I am getting so frustrated that i made an account, i cannot for the life of me contain my anger.
should i just sit on the edge of the screen when they are doing this? (i find that so incredibly boring I have began to rage quit once they do this 4 or 5 times.