I thought the goal was to lower the number of flagship games to 6 in order to place less stress on resources/space/time, but they’re featuring something that barely qualifies as a fighting game that is guaranteed to bring in mass amounts of players and requires equipment that otherwise wouldn’t be needed (Wiis for one)? Based on how I understand this year’s objective, it seems so counter-intuitive. Wouldn’t two or three normal games have roughly the same combined player base and require the same amount of resources? Meh, I guess it’s not my place to determine that.
Arguably the best and most entertaining 2D fighting game in the world right now being on the cutting board is wrong in so many ways.
Edit: BTW this isn’t meant to discredit the staff’s judgement. I’m sure there are details I don’t know.
It would make sense if they leave out GGAC and ST (with no real console port yet) out, so they can be used as SBO qualifier games since the SBO/Evo word dates are so close.
Brawl is getting a lot of attention. Even Gamestop is holding a national tournament for it. Given that popularity, it makes sense to have Evo host it as one of its “flagship” games because its popularity will draw in more people to come and play it at Evo, which means more money for Evo.
I do agree with you that ST being on the cutting board is completely unfortunate. Well, theres always side tourneys (although obviously ST deserves more than a side tourney)? If you come to Evo North, theres an actual Super Turbo machine, so I’m pretty confident I’ll get to play ST one way or another.
Sigh, I know Evo is all about a “fighting game community” now…its just sad in a way to see SF games get slightly pushed to the wayside. It does make room for other 2-D games, and well in terms of getting numbers the more “popular” games. I personally hate Smash but I do understand that it does have a scene and is very popular for some reason. Well, its good for the Smash fans.
Despite the popularity and things getting better, I personally liked the “B” days better. I’m not taking anything away from Evo at all…its a wonderful event and has gotten alot better over the years. I just really loved the “golden” days of SF.
Some time ago, I recall people discussing the various versions of ST for Evo and FMJaguar said “the Dreamcast is not a tournament-viable machine for ST” or something like that. Given that CCC2 has been proven to be unusable, and the game’s always had some of the lowest numbers at Evo, this makes me wonder if that isn’t the odd one out…
That would make me sad, since that’s the only main Evo game I’m truly serious about these days, but I could see it happening.
And Gaijinblaze, another angle we haven’t brought up yet is possible media coverage - Brawl will very likely get the event some press & TV time. Remember, Soul Calibur II drew the attention of GSN (I think?) in '04, when the game was something like 2 years old. Brawl is going to easily be bigger than that game ever was, AND it will still be very new come Evo time. Perhaps this could even assist in drawing more sponsors?
I think ST should be kept in on principle. It’s the only game where you have to be REALLY good in order to even stand a chance against people’s shenlongs. The level people are at that game is insane, I understand why Evo would want to include the Fisher Price games like Smash, but I think ST players deserve to be included at evo to show if they’ve gotten better at a game with such a high amount of already great players.
The GG people made their own long-ass thread arguing to keep the game and it eventually got closed after everyone had their say. Both sides agree that talking about it any further is pointless.
I really agree with everything you’ve said. But, I’ve come to realize today with what Frank said that there really is no viable version of ST to play on at this time. (Although again… Evo North+ ST Arcade machine = Arcade perfect). I suppose in theory the Evo staff could just get a ST machine to play on, but logistically I dont know if it would be profitable to do so (my guess is no, but there are still 2 more games to be announced at this time, so its still up in the air).
I was right. I copied off of J.Wong…but I was right. :lol:
Hmmm…didn’t even think about ST possibly getting the cut. I guess it’s possible seeing that there’s no good home version of the game that everyone can agree on. Which creates a lot of hassle. Depends on when ST HD Remix is coming out I guess. If that comes out early enough at least a game that is reminiscent of the classic SF2 games will be at Evo and as a new game everyone should be able to agree with the gameplay changes. Would be a good way to market the game as well. If not…then CVS2 and GG are in YAY!
I personally would prefer that ST HD comes out early enough so that it can be featured as a new Evo game but there’s nothing wrong with keeping tried and true CVS2 which definitely has some of the most tense and exciting finals of any game. No matter how much people talk crap about CVS2…you really need to be in the room watching when finals go down in that game. Always something ridiculous happens.
You can always watch the old DVD’s. LOL. Evo is definitely going in a different turn though and business wise it just makes sense. Can’t just be a SF tournament forever. Especially in Japan there’s just too many other fighting games coming out to put into consideration. I mean I have nothing wrong with games like ST and CVS2 staying but they’ve definitely been around a long time and aren’t pulling insane numbers anymore like 3S or Smash. Numbers is pretty much the biggest reason 3S is even around. It’s a pretty old game at this point (not as old in America if you count when the game really got going) but it’s still fresh enough to keep going. Once newer players get to understanding how to parry effectively…3S is definitely by far the most accessible SF game as far as playing in tourneys. Even if you aren’t a beast a correct parry can get you here and there in tournaments. It’s that illusion that players get a high off of and the nice visuals despite being an old game doesn’t hurt.
Fighting gamers like to boast over what it means to do technical things in a fighting game, but in the end its all about the numbers and hype. It’s the scrubs and n00bs that make up the rest of the bracket after the stronger players and they’re the ones that make the turnouts look strong.
