The first 5 minutes of the Hound were cathartic, after the last episodeâs ending.
But even that sputtered out.
When is BeeDeeDee gonna die the final death?
These plot changes are fuckinâ Marvel Ultimates tier, at best.
Blackfish homies realized that their lord was a lil bitch so they helped BF out by telling the lannisters that he was dead⊠nevermind not presenting a body or a head as proof. Or maybe bitch nephew wasnât such a bitch after all and is working the double cross revenge hustle.
Arya storyline was stupid. I guess she really was that dumb to be strolling around in broad daylight while being a target for an death cult of assassins. Lol at all those convoluted theories about Arya being some kind of tactical mastermind, playing everyone because they refused to believe she was THAT stupid⊠well guess what⊠lol!
I will just overlook the fact that she has seemed to have gained a healing factor after getting gutted.
I wanted zombie mountain to kill a lot more than he did.
Hound was the best part in this episode.
I donât blame anyone for the Arya theories, they were just trying to make sense of what made no sense otherwise.
Why no Arya fight scene? Why no Tully fight scene? Seriously, these last few seasons seem to be so random with what fights do and donât get shown. Did we need the 2 minutes of actress performing exposition? Did we need the actress banter? Did we need the Pod and Bronn banter?
I liked the latter scene but seriously, if this is just a time issue Iâd rather it be spent on something more pertinent to the continuation of the story.
Off screen deaths create more suspense and frustration for the audience tho, like Tully jnr being dragged outta nowhere or Punihound miracously cheating death and limp.
Brotherhood talking big game about sup up in the north, be hilarious if Hound is the nigga that is promised.
The hound is a man after my own heart.
This.
I just finished watching this ep and these 2 factors were quite annoying. They completely robbed their viewers out of any sense of closure or satisfaction. Even though I havenât read the books I definitely feel the corny TV clichĂ©s creeping up from every corner. Dany coming back with no buildup was the final nail in the coffin. If the Blackfish is indeed still alive then this âsurpriseâ wonât really create any suspense as he is a tertiary character at best.
Honestly the only 2 things I really liked was the bromantic dialogue between Varys and Tyrion and The Hound going HAM slicing bologna on those bandits.
That said this was a slightly subpar episode, but hopefully it has set the stage for greater things to come.
Oh yeah and R.I.P. cougar actress you had a rack⊠er heart of gold.
Nah, this ep just wasnât great. The writers are definitely showing their reliance on tropes, something Martin worked hard to avoid in his books. It clearly shows.
Do tell me when ASoS was not at the very LEAST at max lvl.
âŠthat book was overclocked to 5 ghz.
âŠin a year 2000 rig.
It wasnât that the episode was awful, itâs the number of cool action scenes that the show runners weaseled out of having to show. You can get away with that every so often, but doing it several times in the same episode?
I liked most of the dialog/plot scenes though. Tyrion was good this ep. Missandei and Greyworm wine and comedy scene was cute. Jaime/Brienne was a little too subdued given you know theyâre crazy about each other, but still decent. Liked Bronn/Pod because theyâre two of the most personable characters on the show, genuinely like each other, and hadnât seen each other in a long while- so why not spend a minute showing them goofing around?
Hound was absolutely great in every scene he was in, whether he was cutting fools down or just shooting the shit, âItâs just because Iâm BETTER than you Dondarion, and I was long before you started spouting this religious shit.â
Robins army to the rescue? the blackfish better show up⊠off screening him is bullshit.
I actually mean it.
Several reviewers and the author himself speak about how the story is really made to avoid all the fantasy book tropes that people just come to expect and heâs delivered several times. I respect that shit at least.
Now that they story is off the rails, writers are being left to pretty much write how the show ends. The evidence of the story falling for old TV tropes is clear this season. SHOCKER, Arya doesnât die, The Hound is alive, Jamie stays with Cercei (this one is actually really depressing), Daenarys arrives AT THE NICK OF TIME with her dragons to fight off the slavers, she conquers the Dothraki (again), and there are some more that just sorta irked me.
I donât even want to get into the waste of time some scenes have been.
Iâm not going to tear George down because I generally tend to like him in interviews or what-not, but he does indulge in tropes quite a bit. He just isnât chained to them like a lot of fantasy genre can be.
Also, FWIW The Hound is alive in the books. Not an active mover in the story at the moment, but alive. The evidence of it is a little oblique, but it is pretty rock solid too when you look at it.
Those two suck.
Objectively.
The literal 5 year gap ought to have actually helped Martin to bridge the intended 5 year gap.
Sadly, no such luck.
Albeit perhaps the best book in the series is the slowest of the original 3 (CoK).
But AFfC and ADwD are straight doo-doo, and a waste of good wood pulp and ink.
I hope they off screen death Ramsay Bolton next episode to spite you all
Am I the only one that reminded of this seeing the Waif?
Itâs impossible to not deal with clichĂ©s when doing stories about the human condition, because people by in large are predictable creatures, and deviating from that reality will, ironically, dehumanize them as well, creating 2-dimensional Mary Sues and the like. Most of these so-called clichĂ©s cynics use as pejorative oversimplifications are merely biological narratives hardwired in us, the same with music. Which is why many ancient tales and literature are still relatable to us today.
However, there are more sophomoric tropes and narratives in mainstream television done simply to quickly satisfy the plot when writers want to switch to something else or manufacture weak suspense. Human nature is indeed clichĂ©d, but making weak plot frameworks, only to rush and fill the voids with fluff- due to writing oneself into a corner, is another thing altogether. At least with GRRMâs canon-ish seasons you can feel they made a conscious effort not follow that path.
I was just going to say that some people introduced at the beginning of a story have to livevat least right up until the end, otherwise the story fails at narrative, full stop.
That ainât a trope.
Thatâs fundamental.
Iâm of the belief that Blackfish isnât dead. We didnât see a body, plus he warned everyone that Edmure was under duress. So when they found him, they probably helped him escape because he was right not to trust Edmure.